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Stevie
Stevie


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posted February 24, 2017 07:54 PM

level 16: Ant Soldier.

Btw, I'm posting exclusively what drops, not what it's supposed to drop. Just wanted to point that out.
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Galaad
Galaad

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posted February 24, 2017 08:29 PM

Stevie said:
Btw, I'm posting exclusively what drops, not what it's supposed to drop. Just wanted to point that out.


But why? When you check on potential rewards before attacking if it shows both a common and rare chest it means any common and rare creatures you'll encounter has a chance to drop.
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Stevie
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posted February 24, 2017 08:36 PM

Yea, I guess that's how's supposed to work, but I can't be sure on some levels where it seemed like no creature ever dropped.
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Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
posted February 24, 2017 08:39 PM

Well it's just random, there is some levels I could get all, others not, IMO you can safely also post what's supposed to drop even if you didn't get it.
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hayenne
hayenne


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posted February 24, 2017 08:43 PM

While drop chance might be the same, you will inevitably see more drops of one creature, than the other. The reason for that is some levels have way more creatures of any given kind, and the more creatures it have, the better are your chances to get it.

Say, kitten apprentices appear on many levels, but I'd farm Tower 31  as it has loads of them.

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Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
posted February 24, 2017 08:46 PM
Edited by Galaad at 21:56, 24 Feb 2017.

hayenne said:
While drop chance might be the same, you will inevitably see more drops of one creature, than the other. The reason for that is some levels have way more creatures of any given kind, and the more creatures it have, the better are your chances to get it.

Say, kitten apprentices appear on many levels, but I'd farm Tower 31  as it has loads of them.


True, I've noticed how you've mentioned "good to farm" in OP

Maybe highlighten it by putting green text for example?
I mean it would be really cool if we can directly see from this nice list the places with higher drop rate, before starting to read through.


BTW you can add:

lvl1: Kitten Apprentice, Flying Squirrel, Fox Duelist
lvl2: Lutin, Heinous demon, Magic Mask
lvl3: Boggart, Rat
lvl5: Enchanted Halberd, Saber, Hammer and Shield
lvl6: Wildkin Bandit, Wyvern
lvl8: Small Spider, Ant, Lullaby, Mantis
lvl9: Owl, Blue Eagle, Scarecrow
lvl12: Cluricaune, Dragonling, Faerie Dragon, Fairy
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markmasters
markmasters


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Dragon of justice
posted February 24, 2017 11:06 PM

really great guys thanks for all the effort!

@ galaad, maybe a small tutorial how to but those pics of you neatly and easily in? I didnt find a way without making it a lot of effort.

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Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
posted February 24, 2017 11:18 PM
Edited by Galaad at 23:19, 24 Feb 2017.

markmasters said:
@ galaad, maybe a small tutorial how to but those pics of you neatly and easily in? I didnt find a way without making it a lot of effort.


Sure, screenshot from mobile (two buttons combination, google what are for your device), then put on computer, Photoshop, select the area around creature, Edit=>Crop, resize (I go with 500 for E, 400 for R and 600 for L, resolution 300), then upload to image hosting website, and do the BB code.
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AxeTerio
AxeTerio


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posted February 25, 2017 12:31 AM

Galaad said:
Stevie said:
Btw, I'm posting exclusively what drops, not what it's supposed to drop. Just wanted to point that out.


But why? When you check on potential rewards before attacking if it shows both a common and rare chest it means any common and rare creatures you'll encounter has a chance to drop.


How about Summon Idols?

Do they drop in Battle Tower? Some days I can't complete my dailies due to lack of these

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AxeTerio
AxeTerio


Adventuring Hero
posted February 25, 2017 12:41 AM

Galaad said:
AxeTerio said:
Maybe we should keep a list of monsters and quantities needed for Awakening so ppl could gauge which to go after if they differ?

Muse needs 27 for fully awaken


Sure why not, want to make it? Then I'll link it in the OP.


WOW, those pics and details look great.

I'm really liking this Tower listing as it'll undoubtedly be a crux of dungeon building.

My crude effort is here with lots of incongruities I'm sure but it's only based off what I've come across:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oOvSaG8EunYj570oMrdNwGE9Lmxj6MdwNmXWPa1J-dc/edit?usp=drive_web&usp=sheets_home&ths=true

It doesn't have the expertise or polish of what someone could do but...maybe it'll be helpful as pure data.

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ANcientDRuids
ANcientDRuids


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BEware THe DRuids
posted February 25, 2017 12:49 AM

AxeTerio said:

How about Summon Idols?

Do they drop in Battle Tower? Some days I can't complete my dailies due to lack of these


I don't think so. You can get summon daily by using 50 tickets.

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Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
posted February 25, 2017 12:51 AM

AxeTerio said:
How about Summon Idols?

Do they drop in Battle Tower? Some days I can't complete my dailies due to lack of these


I don't know but I don't think so. You can summon creatures with tickets!

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WOW, those pics and details look great.

I'm really liking this Tower listing as it'll undoubtedly be a crux of dungeon building.


Thanks
And yeah the OP is already very helpful, now I always take a look at it before going to Battle Tower.

Quote:
My crude effort is here with lots of incongruities I'm sure but it's only based off what I've come across:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oOvSaG8EunYj570oMrdNwGE9Lmxj6MdwNmXWPa1J-dc/edit?usp=drive_web&usp=sheets_home&ths=true

It doesn't have the expertise or polish of what someone could do but...maybe it'll be helpful as pure data.


Ofc it is all contribution is good
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AxeTerio
AxeTerio


Adventuring Hero
posted February 25, 2017 01:10 AM

Not my tickets

lol I can't part with them unless its for multisummons

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hayenne
hayenne


Known Hero
posted February 25, 2017 03:01 PM
Edited by hayenne at 15:04, 25 Feb 2017.

AxeTerio said:

My crude effort is here with lots of incongruities I'm sure but it's only based off what I've come across:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oOvSaG8EunYj570oMrdNwGE9Lmxj6MdwNmXWPa1J-dc/edit?usp=drive_web&usp=sheets_home&ths=true

It doesn't have the expertise or polish of what someone could do but...maybe it'll be helpful as pure data.



Would you mind switching off the security of the table to [Anyone with the link can view]?

AxeTerio said:

How about Summon Idols?

Do they drop in Battle Tower? Some days I can't complete my dailies due to lack of these


They drop sometimes in the quests (the harder the difficulty, the better the idols). I never summon more than once per day to conserve them - so far not a single daily missed, with careful managing it's possible.


All the newest contributions were added, thanks guys! I really can't take credit since you provided the lion's share of the information

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ANcientDRuids
ANcientDRuids


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BEware THe DRuids
posted February 25, 2017 03:01 PM

It's only 50 tickets and you get some tokens and 10 diamonds. It's a fair trade.

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AxeTerio
AxeTerio


Adventuring Hero
posted February 26, 2017 10:07 AM

hayenne said:
AxeTerio said:

My crude effort is here with lots of incongruities I'm sure but it's only based off what I've come across:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oOvSaG8EunYj570oMrdNwGE9Lmxj6MdwNmXWPa1J-dc/edit?usp=drive_web&usp=sheets_home&ths=true

It doesn't have the expertise or polish of what someone could do but...maybe it'll be helpful as pure data.



Would you mind switching off the security of the table to [Anyone with the link can view]?


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oOvSaG8EunYj570oMrdNwGE9Lmxj6MdwNmXWPa1J-dc/edit?usp=sharing

Hopefully this one works

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Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
posted February 26, 2017 10:11 AM

AxeTerio said:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oOvSaG8EunYj570oMrdNwGE9Lmxj6MdwNmXWPa1J-dc/edit?usp=sharing

Hopefully this one works


Yes it does, and WOW that looks fantastic!
You clearly put some serious amount of work in there
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dulkan
dulkan


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posted February 26, 2017 04:28 PM

AxeTerio said:


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oOvSaG8EunYj570oMrdNwGE9Lmxj6MdwNmXWPa1J-dc/edit?usp=sharing

Hopefully this one works


This is a great start! If everybody contributes, we could get a creature compendium filled up pretty fast.

Three more suggestions:

Add a column called "special ability attribute". While most specials are based on pwr, some aren't.

We need some way to add creature evolutions, maybe make the first column the base creature and on the second column the evolution. The special does get more powerful with evolution.
Alternatively, we could put the name of the base creature in the frst column, the names of the evolutions on another and just list the special abilities for the max evolution, as this is the most relevant anyway and will avoid redundancy.

Finally, a listing of the creatures base attributes on max lvl would be great.


Maybe, you could create a working copy, so several people can work on this document?

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Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
posted February 26, 2017 06:31 PM

Lvl15: Hungry shrub
Lvl17: Bat, Skeleton, Zombie, Mummy
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AxeTerio
AxeTerio


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posted February 26, 2017 08:04 PM
Edited by AxeTerio at 20:29, 26 Feb 2017.

Galaad said:

Yes it does, and WOW that looks fantastic!
You clearly put some serious amount of work in there

Kinda took me a better part of two days actually. When I like a game I start to write down all the info on legal pads so I can start a loose endgame plan. Second day was to compile it online, just started using Google Sheets for its accessibility. I was mainly a console gamer so a lot of this is new to me.

dulkan said:

This is a great start! If everybody contributes, we could get a creature compendium filled up pretty fast.


That's what I was thinking too way back when Raks and Stevie started talking about it.  



Three more suggestions:

Add a column called "special ability attribute". While most specials are based on pwr, some aren't.

Thought about that, since I didn't see an immediate need to know what the % is based off of, figured it could wait until later. If we did have their base attributes then we could see if the devs made any Bizarro monsters. The ones that have high ATK but their ability is based off PWR instead, y'know



We need some way to add creature evolutions, maybe make the first column the base creature and on the second column the evolution. The special does get more powerful with evolution.
Alternatively, we could put the name of the base creature in the first column, the names of the evolutions on another and just list the special abilities for the max evolution, as this is the most relevant anyway and will avoid redundancy.

Max evolution abilities yeah cuz I didn't think much of the Otter but at 200% damage its not bad I think. Mumbo Jumbo (blue mask) also I don't think much of but have recycled quite a few and now wonder if he's worth using since I need two more small flying creatures STAT



Finally, a listing of the creatures base attributes on max lvl would be great.
Maybe, you could create a working copy, so several people can work on this document?

Definitely...just got to figure it out lol
Save As a different name is how I'd do it in Excel...same in G Sheets?

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