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Heroes Community > Other Side of the Monitor > Thread: Which one's the best Tarantino movie?
Thread: Which one's the best Tarantino movie? This thread is 5 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 · «PREV / NEXT»
Blizzardboy
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posted March 22, 2017 02:18 PM
Edited by Blizzardboy at 14:20, 22 Mar 2017.

Sorry fred but a guy screaming whenever he's being beaten alive with a baseball bat isn't denying reality.

And I didnt notice anything grossly historically false about Django. Yeah it was juiced up a little bit, but that is standard Tarantino and nothing remotely like in Kill Bill.

So I don't share your ire.
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kiryu133
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posted March 22, 2017 02:29 PM


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artu
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posted March 22, 2017 02:34 PM

I think the most you can say is that, until Kill Bill, Tarantino movies didn't bend on the standard Hollywood formula of "good guys versus bad guys against the odds." Not that his later movies are typical Hollywood movies but they do have the trait of such duality (except the Hateful Eight).

A Tarantino who doesn't operate on such formula is much more interesting, on that I'd agree with fred. However, if you take it too far and reduce them into "catering to certain groups" well, then Kill Bill is also a feminist movie! Not that an artist having a feminist or any other political agenda is a terrible thing but I think Tarantino is not exactly such a director, put aside being an over-political one.

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fred79
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posted March 22, 2017 04:32 PM

Kipshasz said:
Also, to be more specific, the main woman character in Inglorious Basterds isn't french, she's french-jewish.


oh yeah, forgot that. which makes it even more obviously pandering.

@ blizz: i'm referring to a slave who apparently slaughters a bunch of slave owners. isn't that the plot? if you can pinpoint anywhere in american history that actually happened... but my guess is, you won't find anything of the sort.

@ kiryu: oh look; more sjw spam. big surprise. you'd make more of an impact on tumblr. i suggest spamming that garbage there.

@ artu: kill bill doesn't pander to any demographic. it can't count as feminist-catering when there are both male AND female protagonists. it wasn't strictly about one sex vs the other(like in "death proof"), or one ideal vs the other(like in "i.b.").

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artu
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posted March 22, 2017 04:44 PM

Who would you consider as the male protagonist in Kill Bill???

It's the story of a hot chick with a samurai sword, getting revenge from his ex-boyfriend, meanwhile taking on his gang, the yakuza, some sexist jerks, the male nurse who raped him etc...

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kiryu133
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posted March 22, 2017 05:13 PM

A movie about killing Nazis has a jew as a main character. What could possibly justify tha- OH YEAH IT'S ABOUT KILLING NAZIS!

It's also a movie about deconstruction masculine power structures and generally having a laugh at the biggest crybabies around who can't even stand the idea of the main character of a revenge flick is a jewish woman. Also her lover is a black man. Funny that.

you know, the more I think about it the more I love Tarantino. He's brilliant, making grown men cry like the little babbies they are. It's really kind of beautiful, inn'it?
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fred79
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posted March 22, 2017 06:12 PM

you're the only one here who's crying, kiryu. i'm only pointing out what i see. nice projection, btw.

@ artu: lol, i meant "antagonist".

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kiryu133
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posted March 22, 2017 06:21 PM

Why would I be sad about Tarantino doing movies for me?
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fred79
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posted March 22, 2017 06:45 PM

should i even dignify that obviously diversive tactic with an actual answer?

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kiryu133
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posted March 22, 2017 07:18 PM




anyway, on topic: It is quite refreshing seeing one of our greatest filmmakers just abandoning the white dude demographic. Now I haven't seen hateful eight (yet) but at least since Kill Bill all his films has had pretty strong progressive messages and featured, if not the main character at least the most important one as a non-white or non-male character and that is something I am incredibly thankful for. He does some missteps here and there (the BDSM-bit in pulp fiction has issues even if it's a pretty good scene) those are few and far in between and it's obvious he's really trying to do the right thing.

It's nice knowing he acknowledges that black people and women need some representation as well and I eagerly await the time he makes a Movie with a trans-person as the hero. Trans person going on a Tarantino directed roaring rampage of revenge? Mmmmmmh, that'd be PERFECT!
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Zenofex
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posted March 22, 2017 07:29 PM

That's a fairly pathetic provocation even for you. I thought mods are supposed to above such things, image spam included (kind of reminds me of one troll which the forum adopted for some reason, can't help but wonder...).

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Minion
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posted March 22, 2017 07:33 PM

fred79 said:

@ blizz: i'm referring to a slave who apparently slaughters a bunch of slave owners. isn't that the plot? if you can pinpoint anywhere in american history that actually happened... but my guess is, you won't find anything of the sort.


That is an odd argument against a (revenge) movie... Where in the history has a female samurai gone on a rampage and killed her opponents...?

But to further rebuke your point, there actually actually are dozens of slave rebellions in the history. Do you think all of them just bent over and never did anything against their masters? For example Nat Turner and his folks slaughtered 50-60 whitey owners and their families in their rage...

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frostysh
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posted March 22, 2017 07:37 PM

As for myself - I am don't understanding for what a purpose, and what means all those images. But one sona of the preacher man image, downloading almost 5 minutes, which is I am don't like.
I think mr Tarantino have some of "psycho issues", I have made this conclusion after "Django..." and "snows...". But indeed he have or  he had, some talent as the filmmaker.

P.S. restored my facebook account, scribed to mr DiCaprio facebook account, about politics and stuff. .
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fred79
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posted March 22, 2017 07:38 PM

Minion said:
For example Nat Turner and his folks slaughtered 50-60 whitey owners and their families in their rage...


proof? if true, i might actually have to watch that movie.

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kiryu133
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posted March 22, 2017 07:39 PM

Zenofex said:
That's a fairly pathetic provocation even for you. I thought mods are supposed to above such things, image spam included (kind of reminds me of one troll which the forum adopted for some reason, can't help but wonder...).


You're not wrong but it's about as much as the opinion that having women in leading roles is "pandering" deserves
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artu
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posted March 22, 2017 07:44 PM

fred79 said:
Minion said:
For example Nat Turner and his folks slaughtered 50-60 whitey owners and their families in their rage...


proof? if true, i might actually have to watch that movie.

You never heard of Nat Turner, just wiki him. They even made a movie about him last year but although I downloaded it, haven't seen it yet. It's callled Birth of a Nation.

There are many slave uprisings of course but most of them were squashed instantly.
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Geny
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posted March 22, 2017 07:47 PM

Wasn't the Republic of Haiti formed from a black revolution?
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fred79
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posted March 22, 2017 07:48 PM

/off-topic:

kiryu133 said:
It is quite refreshing seeing one of our greatest filmmakers just abandoning the white dude demographic. Now I haven't seen hateful eight (yet) but at least since Kill Bill all his films has had pretty strong progressive messages and featured, if not the main character at least the most important one as a non-white or non-male character and that is something I am incredibly thankful for. He does some missteps here and there (the BDSM-bit in pulp fiction has issues even if it's a pretty good scene) those are few and far in between and it's obvious he's really trying to do the right thing.


interesting. and just how long have you hated yourself? was it only after someone told you that you should be ashamed for being a white male? or at least, that it wasn't popular to be one anymore? i'm being serious, btw. i'm not looking to extend a stupid argument here. i'm genuinely curious.

/somewhat back on-topic:

kiryu133 said:
It's nice knowing he acknowledges that black people and women need some representation as well and I eagerly await the time he makes a Movie with a trans-person as the hero. Trans person going on a Tarantino directed roaring rampage of revenge? Mmmmmmh, that'd be PERFECT!


believe it or not, i'd actually like to see a rocky-horror-picture-showish main hero(or villain, that'd be cool too) in a tarantino movie, myself. if only because i am usually greatly entertained by things not out of the ordinary.

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fred79
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posted March 22, 2017 07:51 PM

kiryu133 said:
Zenofex said:
That's a fairly pathetic provocation even for you. I thought mods are supposed to above such things, image spam included (kind of reminds me of one troll which the forum adopted for some reason, can't help but wonder...).


You're not wrong but it's about as much as the opinion that having women in leading roles is "pandering" deserves


so, while i was only stating my opinion, you felt compelled to provoke me because of that opinion? i'm not sure i want to actually continue a serious adult conversation with you anymore. you seem to be incapable of having one.

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frostysh
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posted March 22, 2017 07:52 PM

artu said:

You never heard of Nat Turner, just wiki him. They even made a movie about him last year but although I downloaded it, haven't seen it yet. It's callled Birth of a Nation.

There are many slave uprisings of course but most of them were squashed instantly.
Imho that because of genetic-like desire for freedom for high mammals, they like to go where they want, and settle where they want, etc. Any slavery system with human-beings will fall sooner or later. One of the most recent catastrophic collapse - Apartheid, and some Commi states, and continuous problem in the Islam states, one of the main problem of which is Sharia stuff.  Too poor that mr Tarantino and Co was too , hmm, too sux to show it in the movie about "Django ..." such interesting things.
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