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Ghost
Ghost


Supreme Hero
Therefore I am
posted April 08, 2017 03:45 PM

Ok I has old bill



A price is €795 I bought €20 Mighty market rised the value, and I never bought so value, I interested set, I always bought cheap.

What Dies_Irae think about bill? Read Russia Real history

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Zenofex
Zenofex


Responsible
Legendary Hero
Kreegan-atheist
posted April 08, 2017 06:34 PM

verriker said:
to be honest mate you are wrong unfortunately, everybody did ignore him for a few months but just continued to post illegible thread after thread anyway whether anyone reacted or not, like Noober of Baldur's Gate if his script broke lol
That's a problem for the moderators, I already said elsewhere that they are waaaaay too tolerant to this junk thread spam and the rest of his trolling in threads opened by other people. You can still ignore him indefinitely, it costs the same effort for 1 post and 1000 posts.

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Dies_Irae
Dies_Irae


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with fabulous eyes
posted April 08, 2017 06:53 PM
Edited by Dies_Irae at 19:06, 08 Apr 2017.

Ghost said:
What Dies_Irae think about bill? Read Russia Real history


Glory to Arstotzka.

Well, mr. Ghost, Dies thinks about the bills that they are a interesting but not worthy of the collecting, such stuff does not have his attention, you know .

[Normal mode, ON] I have some (old) banknotes lying around:

1000 Italian lire
10 / 25 Surinam guilders
10 Dutch guilders
10 Indian rupees
20 / 50 (4x) Mexican pesos

I got these en passant, it's not like I'm actively collecting them. I used to have a British 20 pound note too but I exchanged that for euros. It's interesting to study the development of banknotes, though, to see what nations depict on them over the course of decades. Euro bills are all the same, and therefore far less interesting. At least the commemorative 2-euro coins preserve a bit of (inter)national pride, achievements, culture, heritage, heroes and whatever is considered important to be immortalized this way.

If you really own that particular bill and it's in good shape, make sure you keep it safe somewhere . That's a nice piece of history. 19th century banknotes in good condition can be quite valuable. If I take a look at the website where I mostly get my goodies from, a Dutch 10 guilder bill from 1878 with a specific serial number in reasonable quality is priced at € 15k. The cheapest version is 'only' 6500. Old 20th century ones (pre-1950s) can reach high numbers too, by the way. I have none of those myself and are not planning to get them anytime soon .
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Maurice
Maurice

Hero of Order
Part of the furniture
posted April 08, 2017 09:47 PM
Edited by Maurice at 21:49, 08 Apr 2017.

Zenofex said:
That's a problem for the moderators, I already said elsewhere that they are waaaaay too tolerant to this junk thread spam and the rest of his trolling in threads opened by other people. You can still ignore him indefinitely, it costs the same effort for 1 post and 1000 posts.


Try to see it from our side for a change. All we have to go by is the set of rules as detailed and laid out by Valeriy in the FAQ/Rules (which can be found at the top of every page). The only way to keep people in line is by applying penalties whenever they break those rules.

Spreading penalties at will without holding the actions they're applied for against those rules, is actually an abuse of moderator power - no matter how justified such an action might appear to be. You don't sentence someone to 10 years of jail or revoke his driver's license for breaking the speed limit consistently by 1 or 2 miles per hour.

If anyone feels like another member should be called upon for violations of one or more of the rules as laid out in the FAQ/Rules, which we as moderators somehow missed, they should send any one of the mods a PM, detailing the offense. We can then take it into consideration and see if a penalty is warranted. We've done so in the past and are open to such messages now and in the future.
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Zenofex
Zenofex


Responsible
Legendary Hero
Kreegan-atheist
posted April 08, 2017 09:56 PM

Don't use these rules as some shield, if they are not detailed enough or up to date to allow you to deal with the misuses of the forum efficiently, just update them so they become such. Modern people are not living by Hammurabi's laws for a reason. I suppose you don't want every second troll who comes around to pollute the forum freely just because the CoC is treated as some holy book which is never supposed to be edited or questioned.

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verriker
verriker


Honorable
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Only Erwin Good Die Young
posted April 08, 2017 10:13 PM

Maurice said:
If anyone feels like another member should be called upon for violations of one or more of the rules as laid out in the FAQ/Rules, which we as moderators somehow missed, they should send any one of the mods a PM, detailing the offense. We can then take it into consideration and see if a penalty is warranted. We've done so in the past and are open to such messages now and in the future.


for sure I have actually tried this route a while ago but only got a rather curt platitude response saying the community complaints could not be taken seriously for first HCM, and did not get any response to my second HCM from the moderator in question despite both messages being a long, detailed argumentation with lots of respect and fair points lol

I do not mind posting the message again if somebody else wants to evaulate it, bear in mind it was the first time I ever initiated a complaint against a member since I joined lol

you guys certainly know I like and respect you and try not to be a bother but you cannot pretend the Code of Conduct is the be all and end all which the moderators will follow to the letter with their hands tied and no common sense allowed, there are some weird double standards at times,
after all bear in mind you still pardon Luke J Patenaude to post here his misleading nonsense because some think it is funny despite the fact that it is a second account from a banned member, which according to the CoC is a complete and utter breach of the rules lol
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Ghost
Ghost


Supreme Hero
Therefore I am
posted April 08, 2017 10:13 PM

Dies_Irae said:

a Dutch 10 guilder bill from 1878 with a specific serial number in reasonable quality is priced at € 15k.


Our high-end €25k



9 pieces in Finland

Our bills are many over €9,900, if want buy a unused bill


Euros are much higher than Finnish and Dutch money in the future, example for unused 500 bill, or a little edition, when new 500 bill, unused 500 start at 600 value, if 20 so 25 value, I guess at..

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OhforfSake
OhforfSake


Promising
Legendary Hero
Initiate
posted April 08, 2017 10:39 PM

verriker said:
bear in mind it was the first time I ever initiated a complaint against a member since I joined lol


This again? How many times do I have to apologize to you? Why can't you believe I simply didn't know how common it was for Scottish women to have a beard?

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fred79
fred79


Promising
Undefeatable Hero
Crotch Connoisseur
posted April 08, 2017 10:52 PM

what zeno and verriker said. i sent cor a complaint about frostysh midway into his aggravations, and it was absolutely ignored. but that's because cor(and some other mods) sees ME as an aggravation. i've come to understand that i can't seek any help whatsoever from certain moderators. to my knowledge, there is only one or two who i can depend on. it's most likely because i'm not afraid to call mods out on their bullsnow, and i'm not afraid to point out their petty rivalries. so i got on some of the mods' bad sides, and i tend to stay there because of my sense of humor.

but so snowing what? getting on a mods' bad side shouldn't make a difference. a respectable moderator will do their jobs regardless, and not play favorites or hold grudges like children(admittedly, adults across the globe do this, but that's for another discussion). and like was mentioned, the coc is definitely outdated. i'm sure val had good intentions in the beginning, but we've come to a time where kids don't play heroes games anymore; let alone visit this place. and besides, any kid with access to the internet is already exposed to all the "evils" that humanity has to offer. but i've already said that somewhere, i think. heroes games will no longer lead any younger generation here; it's in no way akin to what the comic book movies do with younger generations. and it's foolish to even expect that at this point; because hc just isn't a place where kids go. they'd be bored out of their minds here, since the heroes games are not relevant in their lives. it'd be like me joining a knitting forum.

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verriker
verriker


Honorable
Legendary Hero
Only Erwin Good Die Young
posted April 08, 2017 10:57 PM

OhforfSake said:
This again? How many times do I have to apologize to you? Why can't you believe I simply didn't know how common it was for Scottish women to have a beard?


for the last time mate and I will not tell you again, there are no women in Scotland, we are all each other's beards so stick that in your hairy pipe and smoke it cheers lol
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fred79
fred79


Promising
Undefeatable Hero
Crotch Connoisseur
posted April 08, 2017 10:59 PM

lol, you said "hairy pipe".

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OhforfSake
OhforfSake


Promising
Legendary Hero
Initiate
posted April 08, 2017 11:13 PM

Swooning another female Fred?

Skirt or kilt?

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Ghost
Ghost


Supreme Hero
Therefore I am
posted April 08, 2017 11:16 PM

Never heard, but if you want hairy penis in pussy. It pay about $1.000.000, we hope a doctor know what does it

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The_Polyglot
The_Polyglot


Promising
Supreme Hero
zombie
posted April 08, 2017 11:18 PM

Geez, calm down fred. If the mods haven't done anything so far, they have a reason why. In the meantime we started dispensing mob justice, which may be immature and cruel, but so far it's working
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fred79
fred79


Promising
Undefeatable Hero
Crotch Connoisseur
posted April 08, 2017 11:55 PM

i am calm? do you see me raging, do you? lol. YOU keep calm. with your "vigilante justice".

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Maurice
Maurice

Hero of Order
Part of the furniture
posted April 09, 2017 12:04 AM
Edited by Maurice at 00:05, 09 Apr 2017.

Zenofex said:
Don't use these rules as some shield, if they are not detailed enough or up to date to allow you to deal with the misuses of the forum efficiently, just update them so they become such. Modern people are not living by Hammurabi's laws for a reason. I suppose you don't want every second troll who comes around to pollute the forum freely just because the CoC is treated as some holy book which is never supposed to be edited or questioned.


Anyone (and that includes you) is free to ask for updates, changes, additions or removal of parts of the CoC. Just make the appeal to Valeriy and let him decide. Or, if you (i.e. whoever wants to see changes) want to ask any moderator to convey that request to Valeriy, just go ahead, make the request.

Verriker said:
for sure I have actually tried this route a while ago but only got a rather curt platitude response saying the community complaints could not be taken seriously for first HCM, and did not get any response to my second HCM from the moderator in question despite both messages being a long, detailed argumentation with lots of respect and fair points lol


I'm sorry, I am not aware of this particular issue. I don't know what it was about.
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Gryphs
Gryphs


Supreme Hero
The Clever Title
posted April 09, 2017 12:04 AM

verriker said:
for sure I have actually tried this route a while ago but only got a rather curt platitude response saying the community complaints could not be taken seriously for first HCM, and did not get any response to my second HCM from the moderator in question despite both messages being a long, detailed argumentation with lots of respect and fair points lol

I do not mind posting the message again if somebody else wants to evaulate it, bear in mind it was the first time I ever initiated a complaint against a member since I joined lol
How did you write it? Because if it is in your usual style I think I can understand why it was not taken seriously.
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verriker
verriker


Honorable
Legendary Hero
Only Erwin Good Die Young
posted April 09, 2017 01:02 AM

Maurice said:
I'm sorry, I am not aware of this particular issue. I don't know what it was about.


it was in fact the very same current issue at hand where you are asking us to send out some HCMs if we have a problem with the troublesome member,

actually I respect the moderator in question very much for many reasons and thus would not at all want to single him out for a critique, in fact normally I would not even bring it up at all,
but in terms of interfacing with the team of moderators as a group, when you come in and announce this is the main valid option to deal with a user who you yourself will agree is consistently aggravating yourselves as well as many others, it forces my hand to share that my experience with that option is that the team simply dismissed and ignored what I said, thus being no option at all lol

also bear in mind there is no answer forthcoming for the hypocrisy of Luke J Patenaude randomly getting away with breaking the when are members banned for several years, "banned members may not post or use instant messaging on Heroes Community. We have allowed certain members a second chance in the past, but they always reoffended, so the bans are now permanent", obviously because it makes no sense,
consider that if one of the most important rules in the CoC is completely waived for one user who is silly and posts gibberish, why shouldn't one assume that another silly gibberish account is also subject to a much more lenient interpretation of the rules as well lol

Gryphs said:
How did you write it? Because if it is in your usual style I think I can understand why it was not taken seriously.


although I kept my supposedly vulgar traditional syntax intact for sure, one would not mistake it for anything but a sincere message, it was above average for my standards with decent rhetoric IMO and far from illegible with no weird idosyncracies lol
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fred79
fred79


Promising
Undefeatable Hero
Crotch Connoisseur
posted April 09, 2017 02:21 AM

as was mine. i always take the time out to address issues properly. which should be pretty obvious, given my easily apparent lack of typical asshatery.

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frostysh
frostysh


Bad-mannered
Famous Hero
WHY?
posted April 09, 2017 06:04 AM
Edited by frostysh at 06:08, 09 Apr 2017.

artu -
artu said:
Quote:
Why they are annoyed?

Maybe, it's because on one hand, by your own words, you acknowledge that you are "dull," that you have insufficient English to be able to understand the nuances of an argument, yet on the other hand, you keep throwing away words like 'non-sense, you are brainwashed, you sux" etc. You see, frostysh, sarcasm only works when you obviously have the higher ground, when you don't, it only underlines your inefficiency in a very annoying way. To be able to claim something is non-sense, you have to have a pretty clear idea about what it is in the first place. That's how it works.

1) Yes I am

2) Not I am not using such words directly against personas, only against an ideologies, particular posts, etc. - you mr artu, just playing with words like a mr Stieve is liked to do, just for profit for you, but not for truth.

3) I always had a clear idea why some things sux, and explained it, and bringing discussion on it.
artu said:

Your statement above is another perfect example of this. I have linked you a live interview of an historian, who is by consensus one of the highest authorities on Middle-Eastern history,  who explained why trying to draw parallels between the Armenian Genocide and the Holocaust of the Nazis is an absurd attempt in great detail. You linked Taner Akçam to me, which btw, I have read in full, not just a few internet articles, and I respect his courage to oppose the official government arguments (which I stated that I also disagree with) but he is not even a professional historian, he comes from sociology and in mid 2000's while he was writing his books, he didn't even speak Ottoman Turkish or read that alphabet to be able to understand the archives by himself. It took three pages for you to slightly comprehend the basics of what I was even talking about in the first place, because you were too busy attaching irrelevant Nazi pictures or labor camps from China to your scrambling of posts yet, you still have the nerve to call the other party "clueless."

1) If you have read mr Taner works, you know why this works is so recognized and the critics to mr Lewy' book is debunking the all mentioned by you, mr artu, works by those 'super knowledgeable' in terms of history of OE/RoT historians.

2) *facepalm* - mr artu, mr Tanner have found almost no doubts clues that archives has been cleansed, due this cleansing has been done in the same manner as genocide - noob manner. Cleansing of archives used when:

--- a) Somebody trying to make a two-level lie, i.e. to make to think somebody that archives cleaned with one purpose, but it was actually distracting attention from something more important.

--- b) To replace something important and hide it from the 'internal' workers

--- c) Just directly to hide something

--- d) etc.

In case of RoT I am placing ma' bets on the 3rd variant, and this something was info about well planned character of the Armenian Genocide, and data about number of victims. The single fact that archives has been cleansed is enough to say with almost 100% probability that genocide was well planned, well organized, and executed by synchronous work of the many gov. organization, how it worked in practice, this is another story... And any moron, that have manner of thinkin' like a frostysh will say to you the same. You attempts to make it as 'random events' looks just pathetic to me, you see mr artu, in case of government there is not 'not guilty before you guilty will be proved', in government works (and always was) 'guilty before no-doubts clues will say opposite'.
artu said:

You write post after post about materialism when you don't know what it is even on an encyclopedic definition level and associate it directly with Marxism, when materialism is as old as the Ancient Greece, you talk about "paranormal sciences" when the expression itself is an oxymoron, you talk about how people are brainwashed by ideologies, while, you lack any basic knowledge to object to things you object to, you do all that in the most irritating posting style and on top of this, you have this theory that people react to you because you "challenge" their taboos. Someone capable of challenging things has to comprehend them first, that's why they are annoyed by you.

1) And okay, I have said that you provided me with interesting info about materialism stuff.

2) Still, materialism was a crucial thing of the uncle M-guys.

3) You again speculating with words... Paranormal Science, was just an example mr artu, and you evading discussion just focused on it and fled away.

--- a) Materialism cannot 'grasp' infinity mr artu

--- b) The probability of existing a God, the Allah, the all frigin' Greece Panteon, the Odin and Thor, etc is not a ZERO.

--- c) If we trying to extrapolate something that is not a zero to the size of infinity, well . We don't know how many Universes exist, we don't know how large our Universe, we don't even know what the hell the actual Reality is... Your thoughts about '100% true materialism everywhere, coz' of the matter of methodology' mr artu, looks just ridiculous to me.

--- d) This conclusions, etc, is perfectly known for the Theoretical Physicist such as mr Hawking, that because he tryin' to prove that was no necessity of God to create our Universe. <imo> And not just saying 'animalism, polytheism, monotheism, bla-bla-bla'.

Imho 'Pure Materialism' has been destroyed, when the first word "Quantum" appeared in Physics of Micro Worlds . It's like in the mr Peat book about "Uncertainty and stuff" - the classic 'solid' picture of the world, has gone forever.
So yeah, the Paranormal Science also have non zero probability to be true.

verriker -
verriker said:
to be honest mate you are wrong unfortunately, everybody did ignore him for a few months but just continued to post illegible thread after thread anyway whether anyone reacted or not, like Noober of Baldur's Gate if his script broke lol
It's was so hard to save the life of this mr Noober, in the winning battle against this Necromancer from the Graveyard, but in that time all have happy end, that because I liked PC-games, you can be a truly hero there ^^, to save the peoples from a horror, and to achieve a victory even where this victory is almost impossible.



As this particular soldier, she have been betrayed even by the command, she has been surrounded by enormous amount of the horrible-horrible monsters that can shred apart, that can consume piece by piece, the molecule by molecule the whole of you, she have a possibility to make a choice and just fled away a millions of time, but still she achieved this unreal, unbelievable, a ridiculous victory, and the friggin' Justice prevailed.
Ahh, too poor that in the real life it is impossible.
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