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Thread: What to do with Dark Elves and Faceless This thread is 7 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 · «PREV
Sligneris
Sligneris


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posted May 18, 2017 07:36 PM
Edited by Sligneris at 19:37, 18 May 2017.

GenyaArikado said:
Sareth should free the demons so there are demon-controlled territories on Ashan itself so we don't need MORE eclipse plots.

Ow, here I was getting ready for the 53rd Eclipse

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zmudziak22
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posted May 18, 2017 11:51 PM

Dark Elves could still be a faction but not called a Dungeon.

We would have 4 that lives in Underground, Dwarves, Dark Elves, Dungeon, Inferno.

Dungeon should return to his Warlock roots, Wild beats, like Hydras, Minotaurs, Dragons should return to wild and scary theme.

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PandaTar
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posted May 19, 2017 12:02 AM

GenyaArikado said:

Sylvan and Dark Elves should come together in a Fae-like faction.


That's a fine consideration, having elves as a whole, white, dark, light, high, wood or any other assortment rounded up in a single faction, with their own mythical complimentary beasts, and making around 2 or, max of 3, of very distinct units in a line up.

That would also consider something like humans having the option to 'hire' angels OR demons in their faction, because it's human nature being either good or bad. So, settings with such flexibility have interesting appeal. But that would require setting aside any of the previous lore.

These are things I'm actually considering as I'm still mulling over the rest of the project, but ever good surfacing as a reminder.
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Rimgrabber
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posted May 19, 2017 03:39 AM

zmudziak22 said:
Dark Elves could still be a faction but not called a Dungeon.

We would have 4 that lives in Underground, Dwarves, Dark Elves, Dungeon, Inferno.

Dungeon should return to his Warlock roots, Wild beats, like Hydras, Minotaurs, Dragons should return to wild and scary theme.




I second this. the Dark Elves could have their own creatures like nightmares, cave spiders (#GROS is Necro though) or even something like a gibbering mouther. IMO a Dark Elf faction should be a faction of crazy demented elves that go around causing chaos, and Dungeon should be a faction of power-hungry Sorccerers that tame and enslave monsters.

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PandaTar
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posted May 19, 2017 03:44 AM

A crazy demented elf. Somehow Dobby came to my mind.
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GenyaArikado
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posted May 19, 2017 05:21 AM
Edited by GenyaArikado at 05:34, 19 May 2017.

PandaTar said:
GenyaArikado said:

Sylvan and Dark Elves should come together in a Fae-like faction.


That's a fine consideration, having elves as a whole, white, dark, light, high, wood or any other assortment rounded up in a single faction, with their own mythical complimentary beasts, and making around 2 or, max of 3, of very distinct units in a line up.

That would also consider something like humans having the option to 'hire' angels OR demons in their faction, because it's human nature being either good or bad. So, settings with such flexibility have interesting appeal. But that would require setting aside any of the previous lore.

These are things I'm actually considering as I'm still mulling over the rest of the project, but ever good surfacing as a reminder.


I prefer the H5 approach were the Haven choices were Noble Monarchy (blue creature upgs) or Tyrant Theocracy (Red creature upgs). But if it was up to me, I'd merge Humans and Dwarves in a scottish/norseman faction.

I had an idea for post DM factions (that i'm not sure if ever bothered to post) that went something like

Dark Elves + Sylvan Elves Town
Humans + Dwarves Town
Mages + Naga Town
Beastmen Town
Demon Town
Void Town

Obviously by that I dont mean towns consisting of just those races (ie: by dwarves i'm talking about dwarves along valkiries, giants, etc). They'd be spiritual sucessors to the original towns but they wouldn't be named haven, dungeon, academy, etc... anymore

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PandaTar
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posted May 19, 2017 05:38 AM
Edited by PandaTar at 05:39, 19 May 2017.

Yeah, the project I'm making placed dwarves with humans, and it has some Nordish elements, nothing really heavy on viking, but mostly some other details, a mixture, per se. The real Nordish and Viking aura was set to another town, the ambiance and setting, so some themes may be spread evenly on different factions. Still balancing them to see if they feel passable, maturing while it's on hold.

But I'm all for varying styles and mingling races, if one finds a way to get them harmonic and satisfying.

The H5 was rather ok, but given I was ever a H2 and H4 player, I felt like it was too many upgrades. Still, gave players plenty of choices and some interesting conceptions behind the scenes.

And apologies to OP if conversation might have drifted from topic a bit.
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greenlore
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posted May 20, 2017 01:21 AM

I think darkelves are ok,though their execution was pretty poor.
It's like Ubi thinks that a dark elf town must be sneaky and stealthy,which means that the "evil overlord" feel gets kinda lost in the town.
But I think that they don't have to be mutual exclusive to each other.


I don't really care that much for the faceless though.
They fit into the Ashan-dungeon,but overall I am not much of a fan of them as I like it more if creatures are based on mythologies(if I'm mistaken here correct me,but I don't think there is a myth of dark maskwearing butterfly angels,the closest thing that fits their description would be the mothman,but they are a more modern myth),so I'd be ok with them taking a backseat.

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