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Sokoro
Tavern Dweller
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posted May 24, 2017 04:03 PM |
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Editing building requirements, Exe questions etc.
I searched all the txt files found in .lod , but it seems I can only adjust construction costs.
Is it just that some game aspects are in the .exe file?
Why did "NWC" not realease source code like "id" did with old Doom?
Would that not be beneficial for modding community?
Did HotA team managed to crack the code or reverse engineer it?
Why does HotA team not share their work so others can easily see the code and edit the game?
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Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted May 24, 2017 04:07 PM |
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Sokoro said:
Why does HotA team not share their work so others can easily see the code and edit the game?
Because there would be a mess. Thousand versions of thounsands incompatible ideas. Meh.
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Baronus
Legendary Hero
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posted May 24, 2017 04:31 PM |
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Yes its bad fact but we cant edit it easy. In Era too. I dont hear about it. HotA methods is a secret. And I dont hear someone find it...
This topic:
http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=42152
Will be here I suppose if someone will find. Im waiting to. Worst thing... In you want capitol you must build castle! Absurd.
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Maurice
Hero of Order
Part of the furniture
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posted May 24, 2017 04:49 PM |
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Edited by Maurice at 16:50, 24 May 2017.
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Basically, the HotA team has created hooks that are inserted into the original code at runtime in memory. Through the hooks, they're able to alter stuff of the original game as well as add their own stuff on top of it.
And yes, a lot of stuff is hard-coded into the executable. It contains numerous data tables for instance.
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OxFEA
Promising
Famous Hero
feanor on DF2.ru
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posted May 24, 2017 05:40 PM |
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Sokoro said:
Why does HotA team not share their work so others can easily see the code and edit the game?
WoG-team does. Where are these others?
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Baronus
Legendary Hero
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posted May 24, 2017 06:33 PM |
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Edited by Baronus at 18:34, 24 May 2017.
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Egoism and ,"expertism". We want admiration. We know and you not. We are better! Its fault and human must fight with it. Better way is doing complety opposite. Eg. when I found how to making h4def which is completly "impossible", at this moment I told it all:
How to make H4def
Not I can, but HOW ALL CAN!
And some people do the same Nimo, Maurice, WoG team, VCMI team, df2 forum etc. And its good. You are better if you divide not to plaing expert. All should fight if he has thinks dont tell you are expert. Be good :-)
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted May 24, 2017 07:04 PM |
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OxFEA said:
Sokoro said:
Why does HotA team not share their work so others can easily see the code and edit the game?
WoG-team does. Where are these others?
Yep, Berserker uploaded the source code for WoG, all of it. The question is: are you able to read it, as well as for Hota.
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phe
Famous Hero
Life and Freedom
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posted May 24, 2017 08:21 PM |
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Edited by phe at 20:23, 24 May 2017.
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Any link for it? Is it rewritten for VCMI?
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Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted May 24, 2017 08:31 PM |
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Link for what?
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phe
Famous Hero
Life and Freedom
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posted May 24, 2017 08:35 PM |
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Link for what?
Source code of WOG...
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Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted May 24, 2017 09:43 PM |
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http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=39810
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted May 24, 2017 10:06 PM |
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No, this is gray face's WoG 3.59 source. I can't find right now where wog full source was posted, Majaczek has it somewhere.
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RoseKavalier
Admirable
Supreme Hero
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posted May 25, 2017 07:19 AM |
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Baronus
Legendary Hero
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posted May 25, 2017 07:58 AM |
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Edited by Baronus at 08:19, 25 May 2017.
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WoG team give it open just only when abandoned it... It was secret too... Only 3Grayface gives always source 3.59...
But WoG source is lost! Must be saved! Restorate it!
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BanBreaker
Hired Hero
Unbreakable
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posted May 26, 2017 04:37 AM |
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We had .exe editing tutorials at ZGOP website, but the side was taken down few years back. I still have some of the tutorials saved, but they are written in polish. Topics are: 'introduction to .exe modding', 'changing creatures abillities' and 'changing town screen buildings coordinates'. Interesting things I managed to do in the past was changing blacksmith's war machine in any faction, changing battle starting positions, changing creature banks guardians, some changes in spell mechanics (for example you can make teleport to be used on enemy creatures, so that u can tp hostile shooters to you, that was one of my favourite ;') ), You can also easily add 4 brand new creatures to game with sounds through hex-editing. There is also a lot of stuff, that is unknown to me, for example races and genders of heroes are saved in .exe file, but what are they for? I don't think it is being used anywhere in the game mechanics. Changing any of the above correctly never causes game to crash, unlike some of other people are claiming. It is nice way to customize Your own HoMM3, but for mods almost completely useless, since .exe modding doesn't cooperate with other mods, as someone already mentioned.
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Baronus
Legendary Hero
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posted May 26, 2017 08:57 AM |
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Edited by Baronus at 09:00, 26 May 2017.
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Gender is only for def graphics :-) We have 2 sprites man and woman and if 00 it gives male sprite and 01 woman thats all:-) "Races" I dont know, maybe something abandoned :-)
Give this tutorial! It cant be lost. Its not the same like it?
Cienie Erathii
I tested and simple translator is very good from polish to english but not reverese :-) Hardest language of the world :-) Translating will be fast. But for me in original of course! We can actualize it using last discoverys!
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BanBreaker
Hired Hero
Unbreakable
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posted May 26, 2017 06:10 PM |
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Ohh yes, that's pretty much them 
These were based on my tutorials, written and joined by fellow talented modder J. M. Sower. It was so long ago, that I forgot about it! Beyond that, there were so many lil things, that could be changed (as I explained), that I probably couldn't decide what to write about next  There weren't many hex-editors back then, I remembered everything and didn't see the need for writing about it.
It was more like: one of my friends asked me 'can You do THIS?' and I was like 'I don't know, hold my beer', put zeroes on vast chunk of code and at the end of the day we made memes with bizarre things that turned out to be done, most likely not about what was asked in the first place. Too bad they have taken down imageshack's free users images, I would show You some really crazy things we had saved there
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Baronus
Legendary Hero
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posted May 29, 2017 09:08 PM |
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Yes decompiling code is a great adventure. I know it from my experience :-) Sower site helped me very much and a lot of people. We began new thread: How to edit HoTa. All news about code will be helpfull!
And surpirise! I found WoG source code! Cant download but someone maybe make mirror! Its important!
Russian language!
WoG sources
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The_Polyglot
Promising
Supreme Hero
Nuttier than squirrel poo
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posted May 29, 2017 09:47 PM |
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mediafire mirror as requested
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planetavril
Famous Hero
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posted June 08, 2017 08:52 AM |
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If you can get the hota source code, you could send it to me, just for personal use
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