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Heroes Community > Other Side of the Monitor > Thread: Is Gal Gadot normalizing Israeli settlements?
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bloodsucker
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posted June 27, 2017 06:47 PM
Edited by bloodsucker at 19:59, 27 Jun 2017.

Is Gal Gadot normalizing Israeli settlements?

Ok, it is rare to see such a charming woman but when I ear Ellen Degeneres dripping for her past as a combat instructor in the Israeli army I almost forget she is supposed to be liberal.
Notice Gadot never takes an open position for the settlements or Netanyahu but she talks about defending her country right to exist and when she does it you only see all the supposedly democrat SJWs noding their heads and talking about how fierce she is, no questions asked about where she stands on the occupation.    

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posted June 27, 2017 06:54 PM

what is SJW stands for?
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posted June 27, 2017 06:57 PM

Social Justice Warriors

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posted June 27, 2017 06:58 PM
Edited by artu at 19:07, 27 Jun 2017.

antipaladin said:
what is SJW stands for?

Social Justice Warrior, it's a derogatory term used for people who are dedicated to or sometimes even obsessed with things like minority rights, feminism, libertarian political correctness etc... There are many times that the person accused of being a SJW actually has a valid point and it is the accuser who is extreme or ideologically flawed (hence from his standpoint, the accused becomes a SJW.)
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posted June 27, 2017 07:07 PM

artu said:
antipaladin said:
what is SJW stands for?

Social Justice Warrior, it's a deragotary term used for people who are dedicated or sometimes even obsessed with things like minority rights, feminism, liberterian political correctness etc... There are many times that the person accused of being a SJW actually has a valid point and it is the accuser who is extreme or ideologically flawed (hence from his standpoint, the accused becomes a SJW.)


Always entirely obsessed with trivial bull, overzealous political correctness, apologetics for islamic terrorism and they identify as 41611654811615616674616167497468615131674196565 different genders per minute.

Everyone that doesn't agree with them is a racist, sexist, homophobic, islamophobic bigot serving the patriarchy and oppresing women, as well as gays, trans-sexuals, trans-racial, trans-species people, and whatever other mental disorder is trending on twitter that day. Also to them every straight white man is automatically racist and has some mystical power called "white privilege"

These mental patients are also known as the regressive left, and some other, less family friendly terms.

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posted June 27, 2017 07:16 PM
Edited by bloodsucker at 20:06, 27 Jun 2017.

Another thing she does is taking full recognition from being in the army, never clarifying Israel has obligatory enlistment both for men and women. Even if being a combat instructor is not the most common post taken by a woman, it's not exactly like if she has stepped out of the trenches to face heavy fire from machine guns like in the movie.
Notice that if she clarified it she could say "Well, it's not like I volunteered for it. We have obligatory enlistment for both sexes", so distancing herself from the Israeli military position but she does the opposite, talks about the duty to his country and defending his right to exist.      

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posted June 27, 2017 07:19 PM
Edited by artu at 19:20, 27 Jun 2017.

@Kip

That's a caricaturization and not an accurate one. Some people may be overzealous or shallow about their protests but there are still things like racism, homophobia, sexism in this world and not everone who bring those issues up are pretentious zealots full of self-rightousness. Most of the time, it is the right (or the alt-right these days as they call themselves while there is nothing really "alternative" about their "good old" rhetoric,) that is in a regressive position, standing on the way of change in the name of tradition and fingerpointing anyone "a SJW" the minute they hear an objection.
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posted June 27, 2017 07:34 PM

Do you identify as SJW, artu?
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Kipshasz
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posted June 27, 2017 07:38 PM

that may be, but I'm sure you're familiar with that proverb about ppl shouting atop a barrel.

Most of the regressive left are just that. loud, obnoxious and full of oxymoronisms. For example one "genius" describes himself as a "gay muslim marxist-leninist", 3 oxymorons in one. 'll post a pic of that if I find it again.
If you don't follow, here they are:
1. Gay muslim. - Homosexuals are hated in pretty much all three of abrahamic religions, but muslims take it to the extreme by stoning or throwing gays off rooftops.
2. muslim marxist-leninist - religion to true marxist-leninists is opiate for the masses. All religion. Religion for a marxist-leninist is one of the main evil that plagues society.
3. Gay marxist-leninist - despite all the philosophy in that, homosexuality was very frowned upon in the old USSR, even netting a jail time (3 years IIRC was the minimum sentence for this "crime") also, if you're gay, that means you do not produce future proletariat to toil away in the uper fun factories and communal farms of "socialist utopia" that was the goal of Marxist-Leninist philosophy.

How can you be supporting homosexual rights and islam at the same time is beyond me.
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posted June 27, 2017 07:42 PM
Edited by artu at 19:49, 27 Jun 2017.

@Stevie

Not according to my standards, but that is the point. I think prohobiting gay people from kissing publicly is wrong, I dont think dressing this or that way puts any woman in a position where they can be accused of being provacitive or suggestive about getting raped etc. To many alt-right people, these would be enough to label me as a SJW and if it does make me a SJW, I wont change my mind just because they made up a derogatory term about it.

@ Kip

Well to be both Marxist and religously Muslim would be quite hard and absurd indeed, you have to have a pretty weird interpretation of both of them but then again, people strecth out all kinds of ideas to absurd lengths.

Other than that, you can be gay and Muslim, you would only be a Muslim believing you are living a sinful life and ask for the mercy of Allah about it.

You can also be a gay Marxist or even a Leninist. being a Marxist doesnt require you support every historical policy of the U.S.S.R. They have many variants.
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posted June 27, 2017 07:52 PM

Kipshasz said:
How can you be supporting homosexual rights and islam at the same time is beyond me.


bear in mind it is actually possible to alter or evolve a religion over time by popular demand because at the end of the day its rules are no more meaningful than any other fantasy novel which one can scribble out if there is desire to do that, Christianity is historically homophobic but I for sure have been friends with many gay Christians who are not oxymorons (although some are morons lol) cheers lol
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posted June 27, 2017 07:56 PM
Edited by bloodsucker at 19:57, 27 Jun 2017.

artu said:
I think prohobiting gay people from kissing publicly is wrong, I dont think dressing this or that way puts any woman in a position where they can be accused of being provacitive or suggestive about getting raped etc. To many alt-right people, these would be enough to label me as a SJW and if it does make me a SJW, I wont change my mind just because they made up a derogatory term about it.
Where do I signup?

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posted June 27, 2017 08:03 PM

verriker said:

bear in mind it is actually possible to alter or evolve a religion over time by popular demand because at the end of the day its rules are no more meaningful than any other fantasy novel which one can scribble out if there is desire to do that, Christianity is historically homophobic but I for sure have been friends with many gay Christians who are not oxymorons (although some are morons lol) cheers lol


Yeah, Christians. When was the last time when throwing gays off the roof was completely acceptable in a Christian country? lol
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posted June 27, 2017 08:07 PM

Sjws never debate while artu is always up to, sjw's style is moralize then condemn, believing their feelings are universal facts. Then when asked for arguments, they share other people's feelings they picked somewhere, like "look they also tell it, so it must be true" and so on -on the other side, this last behavior is also far right's style too.

All opposite ideas are labeled as fascist propaganda, then fought by precisely fascist means. There is almost never a sjw whose arguments are based on facts, statistics and common sense. Sjw are strangers to life decisions, social hierarchy, then usually they are miserable in love affairs, thus they probably have to evacuate this constant frustration by brutally negating other people achievements and potential. In all, boring and angry people.

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posted June 27, 2017 08:08 PM

LizardWarrior said:
Yeah, Christians. When was the last time when throwing gays off the roof was completely acceptable in a Christian country? lol
Today? Just travel to Uganda.

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posted June 27, 2017 08:09 PM

Even back in the 1950's, theye were sentenced to prison or not allowed in as a foreigner to many Christian countries. It's not exactly so long, long ago, in a galaxy far, far away.
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posted June 27, 2017 08:12 PM

Well, Christianity has many faces, some indeed ugly but now far away, others exceptional of beauty and still present. I don't see much of that beauty in Islam, maybe our museums and libraries are biased and hide it somewhere. ^^
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posted June 27, 2017 08:14 PM
Edited by LizardWarrior at 20:15, 27 Jun 2017.

bloodsucker said:
Today? Just travel to Uganda.


The bill didn't pass and imprisonment isn't the same as thing as execution.
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posted June 27, 2017 08:28 PM
Edited by bloodsucker at 20:31, 27 Jun 2017.

Yet, I wouldn't like to have the job of a prosecutor trying to build a case against some guys who threw a gay of the roof last night in Kampala. Would you?

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posted June 27, 2017 08:32 PM

Prosecuting? Well, in Arab countries that's the (Sharia) law.
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