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Kayna
Kayna


Supreme Hero
posted July 14, 2017 09:24 PM

I've been watching TYT for a while and I can give you a detailed explanation of Cenk's views.

First of all, like Alex Jones or whatever, it's his show. Everyone else hired in his show has very, very similar views. The disagreements you will see on the show are very superficial.

Second, TYT doesn't do actual journalism. They comment on news that others reported. Don't forget that.

Third, Cenk likes to talk like he understands everything, but he doesn't. He knows his local ( American ) politics very well, but the moment he starts talking about any other country, he doesn't understand jack snow and says plenty of stupid snow instead of keeping his mouth shut.

Fourth, he used to be one of them power kissing conservatives. He changed views, and that's good, but it still reflects on his show. Everything he doesn't understand well seems to have an opinion grounded on his old conservative ideas. TYT is thus a strange show that is mostly ultra liberal but with certain opinions that are ultra conservative ( like his views on Russia, on mental illnesses, etc )

Fifth, he has an agenda, and twists the truth to his agenda, like every other out there. If the truth grants some credibility to some conservative agenda, he's gonna twist it.

Anyways. I used to like TYT because it has a familiar feel to it, but after a while, I left for the same reason. If one day you watch TYT and you see him "report" some Russian tank crushing protesters when it didn't, don't be surprised, that was Cenk believing this "source" of information without confirming jack snow.

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bloodsucker
bloodsucker


Supreme Hero
posted July 15, 2017 04:59 AM
Edited by bloodsucker at 05:00, 15 Jul 2017.

Kayna said:
Everyone else hired in his show has very, very similar views. The disagreements you will see on the show are very superficial.

Second, TYT doesn't do actual journalism. They comment on news that others reported. Don't forget that.

I agree.
Kayna said:
Third, Cenk likes to talk like he understands everything, but he doesn't. He knows his local ( American ) politics very well, but the moment he starts talking about any other country, he doesn't understand jack snow and says plenty of stupid snow instead of keeping his mouth shut.

I don't know. He knows nothing about Portugal, the rest of the world I know less then him.

Kayna said:
TYT is thus a strange show that is mostly ultra liberal but with certain opinions that are ultra conservative ( like his views on Russia, on mental illnesses, etc )

I agree, on this regard Ana Kasparian is way more progressive and informed.

Kayna said:
Fifth, he has an agenda, and twists the truth to his agenda, like every other out there. If the truth grants some credibility to some conservative agenda, he's gonna twist it.

I'm not sure, I see some other news but not enough to say you're right.

Kayna said:
If one day you watch TYT and you see him "report" some Russian tank crushing protesters when it didn't, don't be surprised, that was Cenk believing this "source" of information without confirming jack snow.

This I saw happening.

Anyway, I mostly support the same agenda but way more radical. For instance, I'm completely for a strong government, I believe the bank(?) should be nationalized. I believe the government should take total control over health and education. I would resume my views as one ultra welfare state.
I watch Young Turks cause they are way better then most other commentators I know but I often criticize their views, selection of commentators and aproach to certain news. This week, I remember to write about some humoristic flavor Cenk tried to give to a report about Donald Trump Jr. "You are not Jon Stewart, don't try to turn a serious news channel into the Daily Show", didn't add it but thought "you aren't talented enough and Trevor Noah is doing a very good job at bury it".  
Can be just my imagination but I felt like he read it and start talking s*it like "this is my backyard and I do what I want" while doing more pretty weak jokes about serious politics. Now, I don't read the comments myself, so I don't really believe he did it but twice he made comments about their right to deliver stupid jokes.

Would you recommend other progressive news channel?

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Kayna
Kayna


Supreme Hero
posted July 15, 2017 01:09 PM

I don't know any progressive news channel that isn't biased. I don't even bother with the power licking conservatives.

The only guy in TYT I suggest you listen to is Jimmy Dore.

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Minion
Minion


Legendary Hero
posted July 15, 2017 02:22 PM

Kayna said:


The only guy in TYT I suggest you listen to is Jimmy Dore.


No way, he claimed Elizabeth Warren is "traitor" for voting Hillary Clinton. He is a leftwing nutjob. Other TYT members are reasonable.

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Kayna
Kayna


Supreme Hero
posted July 15, 2017 02:28 PM

Is it? If we look at Elizabeth Warren's life work, then see her vote Hillary over Sanders, then saying she was a traitor to her own cause seems rather accurate.

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Minion
Minion


Legendary Hero
posted July 15, 2017 02:40 PM

Elizabeth Warren is the most liberal senator with Bernie Sanders. She only chose Hillary after the primary was over.

Jimmy Dore is an anti Hillary fanatic, he preferred Trump over Hillary. Everyone else on TYT disagreed with him, and so do I.  

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Kayna
Kayna


Supreme Hero
posted July 15, 2017 03:58 PM
Edited by Kayna at 16:22, 15 Jul 2017.

Interesting. I don't follow the guy perfectly.

Personally I think Hillary or Trump wouldn't have made much of a difference between the awkward situations, the Trump effect. Aside from what you just wrote, I find his opinion interesting. I'd probably put this as some kind of hiccup on his part, because he was so angry that Hillary defeated Sanders.

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bloodsucker
bloodsucker


Supreme Hero
posted July 15, 2017 04:54 PM
Edited by bloodsucker at 21:10, 17 Jul 2017.

I'm with Minion, I am quite 'radical' guy and I live in another country but even I felt him a bit out of boundaries on this issue.
Look for "Agressive Progressives" for more from him.  
If Trump manage to end his presidency without starting a World War III or some other catastrophe I think the rest of the world will be better after this 4 years then with Clinton but that's just if democrat leaders become Sanders and Warren and not Pelusi. That woman is even worst then Clinton. I eard once that democrat proponents to candidates are evaluted by the party with questions like: how much can you raise? and who (big donors) supports you? instead of what is your position on this matter? and hearing her speak I'm starting to believe.  
I don't think the Conservative Party will recover from Trump in the near future, which was Dore's perspective to why Trump would be better then Clinton. Unfortunately, his position on the Paris agreement can reveal to be disastrous for the all world and I'm pretty glad I'm not part of the american people.

@Kayna A good example of your last point
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Minion
Minion


Legendary Hero
posted July 17, 2017 01:12 PM

Link not working :/

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