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Kipshasz
Kipshasz


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Elvin's Darkside
posted August 18, 2020 01:40 PM

soys wouldn't even be fit for the PDF of the most safe imperial world there. they are useless in everyway.


I don't get books so I follow tidbits of teases and lore from GW official social media pages.

like this one for example trying to pull a War of The Beast 2: Electrich WAAAAAAAAAAAGHaloo.


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Blob-Ohmos the Second
posted August 18, 2020 02:39 PM
Edited by blob2 at 14:45, 18 Aug 2020.

I simply like books. This is my favorite form of digesting any lore.

One of the funniest things I see in the 40k codexes is that there is a set of keywords that repeatedly appear in many paragraphs. Most are synonyms of obliterating/smashing/killing or otherwise gunning/slashing off the opponents. And so far I see each faction has their own set of these kind of words

Let's take Terminator Assualt Squads for example (yep it's taken from codex and copied in the wiki): "These fearsome squads are most often employed in the vanguard of boarding actions or where the fighting is sure to be close and bloody, such as breaching enemy fortifications or combats through tight, winding urban battle zones. In such cramped environs, where a foe cannot mass his firepower or line up his heaviest weapons, there are few foes that can withstand the brutal onslaught of a unit of Assault Terminators. The combination of nigh-impenetrable armour and powerful weaponry makes for a shock force that can slice through all opposition."

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Elvin's Darkside
posted August 18, 2020 03:07 PM

"I don't get books" as in I don't get them for purchase for a normal price. even the non codex crap.

last one here for sale was a translated Eisenhorn trilogy without a loicense from GW. I guess the legal fees sank the publisher.
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posted August 18, 2020 03:17 PM
Edited by blob2 at 15:22, 18 Aug 2020.

I don't buy Warhammer novel books. There are too many and too far between. Pure lore is what interests me and codexes do a decent job of being both informative and pretty enjoyable as a read. I like to go back to those so it's not a one-time read.

Ofc the downside is that I wasted quite a lot of money on them already but at least I'll have something to put on the shelves of my new apartment Pff, why would I even want to put some classic literature on them? Unfortunately codexes don't come for cheap. Even damaged ones are expensive plus they look like cr@p. On the bright side, I don't know what is the deal here but codexes cost 50$ on Amazon. That is actually twice the price I'm getting them for here in PL (not to mention huge shipping costs while I'm paying pocket money for shipment from local stores) Because I'm buying artbooks either way codexes costs are actually manageable.

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Kipshasz
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Elvin's Darkside
posted August 18, 2020 07:33 PM

you're missing out, a lot of those are very good, and provide better insight into 40k universe than just codexes.
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posted August 18, 2020 07:45 PM
Edited by blob2 at 19:45, 18 Aug 2020.

Kipshasz said:
you're missing out, a lot of those are very good, and provide better insight into 40k universe than just codexes.


Yeah I'm aware some are potentially good and more detailed in their depictions of lore, but I like the compact format of codexes for now. Will maybe pick up some books sometime in the future, I'll see where I'll go from here Plus the art and photos of miniatures is actually as important for me as the lore itself.

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posted August 20, 2020 12:10 AM

Btw Kip, did you hear about/play W40k Mechanicus? It's a team based tactical RPG (like X-Com) about Adeptus Mechanicus vs Necrons? It has badass industrial-gothic soundtrack.

I would pick up the game a long time ago, but recently bought too much stuff so I need to lay low for now.

Btw W40k Gladius is a cool 4X game (even if it isn't an AAA game) that has just the right amount of grim darkness and playability to recommend it.

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Elvin's Darkside
posted August 20, 2020 08:24 AM

Last 40k game I played was Freeblade on samrt devices. Rail shooter thing where you control an imperial knight. for a mobile game is alright.

On PC in terms of release date, last 40k game for me was the excellent Space Marine. Too bad that never got sequels, the leaked storyline for them was epic. supposedly in the second game Titus would've gone renegade, and in the third he'd get his own successor chapter.

also I don't think my decade old rig would run the newer stuff that's out there properly.
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posted August 20, 2020 08:55 AM

The most amazing thing about 40k is that all the complex and fairly original lore is used to spew loads of crap-games which sell more than a few copies only because of the brand they represent. Apart from the first Dawn of War and to same extent the second, plus Space Marine, everything so far has been lacking at best and triple-distilled garbage at worst. No good (or actually any) official movies in the universe either, everything worth watching at least to an extent is fan-made. For a franchise which is so heavily milked, the level of incompetence of those who milk it is astonishing.

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posted August 20, 2020 09:21 AM
Edited by blob2 at 09:22, 20 Aug 2020.

Zenofex said:
The most amazing thing about 40k is that all the complex and fairly original lore is used to spew loads of crap-games which sell more than a few copies only because of the brand they represent. Apart from the first Dawn of War and to same extent the second, plus Space Marine, everything so far has been lacking at best and triple-distilled garbage at worst. No good (or actually any) official movies in the universe either, everything worth watching at least to an extent is fan-made. For a franchise which is so heavily milked, the level of incompetence of those who milk it is astonishing.


Well now, like I said Gladius is pretty solid game and Mechanicus also gets a lot of good reviews. Dawn of War I & II are really good games (a shame the third part was a letdown). And there's Space Hulk: Deathwing which also is a decent and climatic shooter (ever tried it?). I think things are just getting started here. The problem is that GW sells their licence to a lot of entities, but being a miniatures company at heart, they probably put too much trust (or don't give a f*ck) and give too much free reigns regarding the handling of the property. And because we live in a times where companies like to monetize on the popularity of mobile games, we get a lot of this kind of crap also.

Btw did you see this: Angels of Death animation? It's GW original work, it also has a follow up trailer. They created this animation studio, some good things might come from it in the future.

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posted August 20, 2020 09:28 AM

also imagine the soys backlashing if a 40k movie would be made. the universe is not exactly mary sue wars that disney crapped out in the recent years.

Let's just see how that Eisenhorn TV show holds up. that is if it's not being cancelled.


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posted August 20, 2020 09:36 AM

Kipshasz said:
also imagine the soys backlashing if a 40k movie would be made. the universe is not exactly mary sue wars that disney crapped out in the recent years.


That's what I'm actually afraid of. Things like 40k universe are really out of place in todays soy infested world.

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posted August 20, 2020 09:54 AM

I've played Deathwing and while it wasn't the disaster which most 40k games are, it failed to really impress me. Started good but it ultimately became fairly repetitive. At least atmosphere-wise it was decent. I haven't played Gladius as I'm not incredibly fond of de facto Civs mods situated in whatever fictional universe.
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Btw did you see this: Angels of Death animation

Admittedly I haven't. Looks promising, let's see if something will turn out of it. Right now the standard for good 40k animation is held by the (unfortunately cancelled) Lord Inquisitor and more recently it has been passed to Death of Hope, both of which are fan-made.

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posted August 21, 2020 10:20 AM
Edited by blob2 at 10:22, 21 Aug 2020.

While reading the SM Codex I bumped into the term "Legion of the Damned" a few times. So I wondered what the heck is this Chapter as there is no book on them.

Turns out it is some kind of secretive chapter that appears from nowhere to fight Chaos Spawn and disappears. No one knows where they at. They are basically a Chapter made from "Chaplains", bone armor and all. Seems GW either dropped them (last codex is from 6th edition) and don't even sell their stuff on their site anymore, or they have something in store for them and keeping a low profile


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posted August 26, 2020 07:21 PM

They're readying for Primaris Damned Legionnaires.

And given what most lore sources suggest, LoD is, along with Living Saints, daemons of the Emperor. as Imperium with it's church
is ignorantly making a Chaos god of Order, kinda like Eldar shagged Slaanesh into existance with their murder orgies.

and a lot of cooler sculpts are dropped these days. IG for example now only has Cadians, Catachan and Armageddon Steel Legion. Gone are the Vostroyans, as I think they were the last supply of them, and GW doesn't have the updated sculpts and moulds for them. same goes for the other outdated metal miniatiures.

But hey, conversions is part of the hobby.

There have been little, if any at all, releases for chapters like Black Dragons, Carcharodon Astra, and a few others. Best thing is one or two named characters and conversion sprues.


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posted August 26, 2020 08:10 PM
Edited by blob2 at 20:12, 26 Aug 2020.

Hmm interesting about the Chaos God of Order. Kinda doesn't make sense if you ask me as Order doesn't exactly fit as a Ruinous Power And we're talking W40k so I doubt anything good will come out of it.

The recent lore suggests that C'tan Mag'ladroth the Void Dragon is the Machine God. His sculpt is definately awe-isnpiring (and a pain to paint).

There isn't that much about Black Dragons though. Mutated SM that pop-up here and there I belive.

That said the Visions of Heresy book is really a good read. Yep it can be confusing at times as it likes to jump between various events and isn't always in chronological order. If you're careful it does make sense, but the funny thing is that even a few lines of text might actually be hiding a whole actual plotline. That's how expansive the lore is and there are times at which I supplement it with wiki only to find there is a lot of background behind a particular character or event. But, although there are some plotholes here and there, it does feel like someone is actually keeping track of what transpires, even if a few months later you'll find there was a lot of additional context added to a particular lore element.

Btw @Kip, did you read any of the "Primarchs" series books? Are they any good?

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posted August 26, 2020 09:46 PM

I only heard that the Curze one is dissappointing, haven't read any of them myself.


Black Dragons is basically Marines with wolverine claws, and the apothecaries of the chapter bleep around with the gene seed to make more of them, because not all members are affected by this mutation.
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posted August 26, 2020 11:45 PM

It's unfortunate about the Curze book cuz I was interested in it.

Kipshasz said:
Black Dragons is basically Marines with wolverine claws, and the apothecaries of the chapter bleep around with the gene seed to make more of them, because not all members are affected by this mutation.


Still doesn't beat Deathguard with their guts literally spilling out cus Nurgle

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posted August 27, 2020 06:57 AM

well the review was by the soyddit hated norwrgian blonde castrato and edge cuck Arch Warhammer, and I learned a long time ago not to take these types of parasites nor their sub par 'reviews' seriously
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posted August 27, 2020 08:00 AM
Edited by blob2 at 09:40, 28 Aug 2020.

Kipshasz said:
well the review was by the soyddit hated norwrgian blonde castrato and edge cuck Arch Warhammer, and I learned a long time ago not to take these types of parasites nor their sub par 'reviews' seriously


Hmm, guess it's better to learn yourself. I've actually looked through a bit more reviews and they are pretty positive, alas the book is structured strangely. It seems to be, quote, "kaleidoscope of flashbacks and angry rants against the Emperor of Mankind". And I don't like this style of writing (tbc not the rants against the Emperor themselves, just the "flashbacks" style).

Nvm, first I need to collect those codexes, I'm hooked so far This actually turned out into some kind of craze in my case, I might end up collecting them all

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