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Heroes Community > Tavern of the Rising Sun > Thread: Celtic mythology
Thread: Celtic mythology
Ogneslav
Ogneslav


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posted April 22, 2002 03:19 AM

Celtic mythology

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Well, I am extremely fascinated by goddess Morrigan. If I am not wrong Celts had 3 deities of death and afterlife. What do those 3 deities represent?
Who exactly is Morrigan? Is she goddess of cruel battle-death, something like the Nordic Valkirias?
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posted April 22, 2002 10:04 AM

Well, it depends which branch of story you are looking at-'Celt' encompasses the Welsh, Scots, Irish and cornish and in their tales, every other person is either a god or  god in diguse.

Morrigan is the goddess of battle but also of fertility and troubles.  The others are Badb 'Vulture' and Nemain 'Frenzy'.  Morrigan can transform into a crow, and is probably an amalgum of several Celtic goddesses.  Needless to say, she is an Irish creation, and is mentioned once in the Mabinogi when the Irish are fought by the residents of 'The Island of The Mighty' (UK).

Her ole is similar to that of the Valkires as she uses magic to chose who will die in battle.
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Ogneslav
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posted April 28, 2002 08:02 PM

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Morrigan is the goddess of battle but also of fertility and troubles.  The others are Badb 'Vulture' and Nemain 'Frenzy'.  Morrigan can transform into a crow, and is probably an amalgum of several Celtic goddesses.


I have a ritual knife, dedicated to Morrigan.
If I find a scanner of the proper size I will scan and send you few of my paintings of Morrigan with a crow on her`left hand.
Btw, if a man speaks Celtic (is ancient Celtic explored?) or Gaelic, can he understand the deities' names? I mean, do names have some obvious meaning? Like Slavic "Belobog" (WhiteGod)?
I've looked at Gaelic lexicons and there were amazing similarities between some Celtic and Balto-Slavic (proto-Slavic) words.
Crows in Slavic mythology are messangers of god Perun (the superior god, creator of thunder).
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pepeviejo
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posted June 07, 2002 12:31 PM

Does Celtic mythology have anything to do with the druids or a cult like that?

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posted May 13, 2004 07:27 PM

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I think this is the perfect thread for Asmodean. I bet that guy would have a lot to say in here. He seems to know much on the subject.

....And I would enjoy reading his posts ofcourse.
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posted June 19, 2004 07:30 PM
Edited By: Asmodean on 19 Jun 2004

THE MORRÍGAN

Thanks for the vote of confidence Concis - her's some stuff I've pulled off the web and added my own little notes in from my own extra knowledge.



Some stuff I found at http://www.ravenquest.net

In Irish mythology the Morrígan was a goddess of battle, strife, and fertility. Her name translates as 'Phantom Queen,'.

She is a bird goddess, an earth goddess, and her breasts not only nourish the living they're also supposed to regenerate the dead. Her breasts were believed to form the hills in County Kerry called Da Chich Annan. ( the paps of Anu) She is the Irish Morrigan, Goddess of Death and Guardian of the Dead. She has in these early Celtic apparitions, a bird's head ( often a crow , raven or vulture) and breasts, and on the vessels depicting her there is a symbol for the number three. Sometimes three lines are connected and depict a triple energy that flows from her body, as she is giver and sustainer of life. Very early she is under stood to be a triple goddess, a shape shifter, a three part person. Her names are plentiful and sound like her original name.

(Me talking - This is particularly significant as it shows, not only a primitive trinity - but also a link to the Greek Fates)


THE MORRÍGAN AND CÚCHULAINN (Cúchulainn is Ireland's greatest mythological warrior - fighting giants/monsters - the lot)

She appeared to the hero Cúchulainn (son of the god Lugh - again another almost Greek link, he is Ireland's version of Hercules) and offered Her love to him. When he failed to recognize Her and rejected Her, She told him that She would hinder him when he was in battle.
When Cúchulainn was eventually killed, She settled on his shoulder in the form of a crow. Cú's misfortune was that he never recognized the feminine power of sovereignty that She offered to him. She appeared to him on at least four occasions and each time he failed to recognize Her.
1. When She appeared to him and declared Her love for him. 2. After he had wounded Her, She appeared to him as an old hag and he offered his blessings to Her, which caused Her to be healed.
3. On his way to his final battle, he saw the Washer at the Ford, who declared that She was washing the clothes and arms of Cúchulainn, who would soon be dead.
4. When he was forced by three hags (which represent the Morrígan in Her triple aspect) to break a taboo of eating dog flesh.

RITUALS FOR THE MORRÍGAN

Many devotees of the Morrígan have a permanent shrine set up in Her honor. They use such items as a bowl of brine and blood, a raven or crow feather, or even a piece of red cloth (to symbolize the Washer at the Ford). Some people use menstrual blood, which is very appropriate. Blood, especially menstrual blood, is a symbol of both life and death, fertility and war. Rituals should be kept simple. Find something that symbolizes the Morrígan and meditate on it. When you feel Her presence, you may wish to offer Her something of value. This can be as simple as some ale or as difficult as spilling your own blood. A known focus and connection to the Morrígan, is to meditate on a crow's feather and a candle flame. Call Her name until you can feel Her definite presence.



Morrígan also has crosslinks in Celtic Mythology, and many Scotish and Welsh goddesses are believed to be derived from the central Morrígan mythology.
She was also portrayed in the legends of King Arthur as Morganna Le Fay (literally - the fairy Morganna/Morrígan)


Anyone that wants to know about anymore Celtic Gods let me know, I have a ton of books on the subject as well
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posted June 19, 2004 07:35 PM

Cool....

What about Celtic weddings? Do those still take place? If so, what are they like?
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