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Blizzardboy
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posted November 12, 2017 04:17 PM
Edited by Blizzardboy at 16:17, 12 Nov 2017.

Any Jazz fans here?

Share your favorite albums here with me.
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Galaad
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posted November 12, 2017 04:34 PM

Jazz is part of how I make a living.

So here's all that you need to know... Everything is between years 57-60, rest DOES NOT EXIST.
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artu
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posted November 12, 2017 04:38 PM

You play in a bar or something? Got anything live on Youtube?
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Salamandre
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posted November 12, 2017 04:56 PM

This year I got a neighbor who wants to become jazz pianist before anything. First gave him some lessons for the fun -technical and rhythmical basics which are often shared with classical style- but now I started studying jazz seriously as they guy progresses fast and I fall behind. I love it and youtube has fantastic material to start with.

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Galaad
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posted November 12, 2017 05:09 PM
Edited by Galaad at 17:39, 12 Nov 2017.

No I don't have anything on youtube.

I highly recommned following Barry Harris's masterclasses), September and March in Rome. He might also come in Paris soon. But I love going in Rome because of delicious food and coffee.

To me the most important aspect in jazz for fast progress is: think in numbers only, and play with people of higher level. And ofc no partition.
It's very different from classical music (my initial formation, been into jazz for around 5 years), but technique indeed helps.
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artu
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posted November 12, 2017 05:12 PM
Edited by artu at 17:12, 12 Nov 2017.

@Sal

Who are your favorite pianists? Pros usually fall for Art Tatum and he's great but I dont always like the old fashioned pouring down the notes between phases thing he does, it had a technical name but cant remember it at the moment, starts with an L?
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Galaad
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posted November 12, 2017 05:20 PM

artu said:
Pros usually fall for Art Tatum


Indeed he is great but same as for saxophone prime reference is Charlie Parker, for piano is Bud Powell.
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posted November 12, 2017 05:31 PM

I personally prefer Powell to Tatum but I dont think he is as legendary as Tatum, especially not in terms of technical mastery, I've seen many documanteries and usually Tatum is the one they praise like crazy, just an example with also an anecdote about him and Vladimir Horowitz: 14:00
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Galaad
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posted November 12, 2017 05:48 PM

Actually we are both wrong Artu, the true legend is Hans Groiner.
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artu
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posted November 12, 2017 05:54 PM

Lol. Richard Clayderman would be proud! I'm not sure if this is real or a parody though.
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Galaad
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posted November 12, 2017 06:00 PM

Lol, parody ofc, wtf mate
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artu
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posted November 12, 2017 06:12 PM

Well, the ocean of crazy on the internet, you never know for sure. I remember watching the video of a hoja, who advised his community to use bird sounds as cell phone ring tones or else if they get called during prayer, the music of the ring makes them dance and that's a grave sin. People said parody for sure, I said caution, he turned out real and even became famous after a while.
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Salamandre
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posted November 12, 2017 06:17 PM
Edited by Salamandre at 18:18, 12 Nov 2017.

lately I have fun watching Jonny May

I know, not top but fun and nice guy. Bonus, jingle bells

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Galaad
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posted November 12, 2017 06:23 PM
Edited by Galaad at 18:23, 12 Nov 2017.

@Artu Ah well I guess that is fair enough hahaha, no Hans Groiner is a fictional character created by Larry Goldings.
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posted November 13, 2017 12:01 AM

Thelonius Monk - Straight no Chaser

is kind of an abstract pianist.  Really interesting music.

John Coltrane - Blue Train

The first song is immortal, the rest of them were kind of forgettable.

Miles Davis Kind of Blue

Miles Davis bores me but a lot of people think this album is the bees knees so I thought I'd put it on the list. Before he got bogged down in "cool" he made a lot of albums from his early bebop days where he'd have some great musicians playing in his crew.  The best way to find those is compilations.

Charlie Parker Bird Soundtrack

Unfortunately Charlie Parker didn't really leave any good recordings from his bebop days.  For this movie's soundtrack they basically transcribed some really scratchy recordings and then recreated them note for note.

Duke Ellington All the Best

Old-timey swing era music.  I can't find the the name of the great Duke Ellington compilation I listened to but this is the same flavor.

Alice Coltrane Journey in Satchidananda

The first song on this is wicked cool, can't remember the rest.

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artu
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posted November 13, 2017 03:24 AM
Edited by artu at 03:48, 13 Nov 2017.

Well, in the Bird soundtrack, what they actually did was extract Parker's sax from original recordings and then add freshly recorded rhythm section from the 80's. But in jazz, who accompanies you is like everything and without his original crew, the whole thing sounds very different. Not in a good way. Parker has a lot of recordings from late 40's and early 50's which are in good condition, they are not like some scratchy New Orleans phonograph from the 1920's. They just weren't clear enough to sound "live" in the movie and Eastwood didnt want to replace him with an imitator.

Btw, I think if someone is completely new to jazz (Blizz is, as far as I know), starting with swing era players in small settings (Big Bands sound way too old fashioned to people who are not used to them) or bluesy, funky hard bop stuff which are simpler would be more ideal to start. The more progressive stuff sounds like bla-bla-bla-bla to newcomers. As a teenager who got into the Blues from Rock guitar solos, Rolling Stones covers etc and moved on to jazz from that Blues (which I think is still crucial to grasp the feel of the music, focus on the piano solo from the Blue Train above to hear what I'm talking about), what really did it for me were tracks such as these:

Night Train- Oscar Peterson

The Cat - Jimmy Smith

St. Louis Blues - Duke Ellington & Johnny Hodges (also has Harry Edison on trompet, who swings like hell.)


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Galaad
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posted November 13, 2017 10:57 AM

There is too many things so I'll just throw in some random goodies

Count Basie Live 65

Best of Charlie Parker Vol 1

Best of Charlie Parker Vol 2

The AMAZING Bud Powell

Sonny Stitt, Bud Powell, JJ Jonhnson

Best of Clifford Brown

Dexter Gordon Go

Art Blakey and Jazz Messengers
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artu
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posted November 13, 2017 11:58 AM

What starts playing on Charlie Parker Vol. 2 isnt him. It's Art Pepper, Marty's Blues or something like that. One can be fooled though, he's certainly "influenced."
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Galaad
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posted November 13, 2017 12:00 PM

Holy crap you are right, well still good music.
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artu
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posted November 14, 2017 09:22 AM

Come here my Blizzardboy, I have found the jazz tune for you: Boot-Ta-La-Za
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