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Heroes Community > Other Side of the Monitor > Thread: Is it worse to be racially abused than just simply abused?
Thread: Is it worse to be racially abused than just simply abused? This thread is 2 pages long: 1 2 · «PREV
kiryu133
kiryu133

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posted January 09, 2018 07:35 PM

JollyJoker said:
You say yourself it's not. Calling someone the n-word is NOT worse than calling someone a fa...t, is what you say. And in THAT regard calling someone a "retard" is basically coming from the same corner, because there ARE retarded people, and calling people that way is marginalizing the retarded. It shows that retarded are in low regard.


I kept the list short but yes you are correct that neurodivergents should be a part of it. There are many axis of privilege and oppression that people might fall under. For example, me personally am a gay autistic woman. That puts me on at least 3 axis of oppression and referring to any of these in any sort of insulting way is insulting to me and people like me as well as a way of oppressing us. It enforces held beliefs that it's "ok" to abuse people because of these things when it is, in fact, anything but. It's not ok to abuse anyone for anything but when it's to push marginalized people down further it is worse because it's a way of oppression.
I am also white which means I have little say in anything about racism or knowing how people of colour feel or are marginalized by society. That's not something I can comfortably talk about as I have not experienced it.

(And no, you can't be sexist against men for example since men already enjoy a higher hierarchical status on behalf of their gender and you can't be racist against white people for the same reasons. It's a question of weather you're punching up or down and on that white cis straight men are ALWAYS on top)
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OhforfSake
OhforfSake


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posted January 09, 2018 07:40 PM

Racism and sexism are both forms of discrimination. No one are automatically immune to be discriminated against.

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fred79
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posted January 09, 2018 07:48 PM

OhforfSake said:
Signatures most usually aren't meant to be taken seriously, but are more, I think, tongue-in-cheek.

Edit: I have also seen signatures used to honor or tease other members through "quotes" or used as a link reference to something the person finds important.


yeah, and i've said a lot of things that were tongue-in-cheek that were taken in a negative light. even if that were the case here(it'd be great if it were, but i doubt it), it's still incorrect to view anything as worse if it's done with a different thought in mind. like i said, thought-crime is a slippery slope, and we're already headed there because of special-interest groups(who are just playing into the hands of the controllers). to say that any crime or act is worse merely based on the belief behind it doesn't make logical sense. the severity of the crime or act should be what is judged; not the fact that special interest groups want to tack on another charge because they feel like they've been SPECIALLY slighted. if i get shot by somebody, i'm not really going to care WHY they did it, only THAT they did it. the WHY'S could fill pages; WHY'S are fluid, and can be manipulated based on who reports it or who you talk to. WHAT is concrete, and cannot. laws aren't about "why's", they're about "what's".

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fred79
fred79


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posted January 09, 2018 07:56 PM
Edited by fred79 at 20:29, 09 Jan 2018.

kiryu133 said:
(And no, you can't be sexist against men for example since men already enjoy a higher hierarchical status on behalf of their gender and you can't be racist against white people for the same reasons. It's a question of weather you're punching up or down and on that white cis straight men are ALWAYS on top)


yeah, that is ABSOLUTELY wrong. that people believe this for whatever reason really tests my patience. that people are bullied into believing this by the very people that claim to be bullied, is even worse.


edit: come to think of it, that statement's also racist AND sexist. way to go, moderator.

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Salamandre
Salamandre


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posted January 09, 2018 08:41 PM

Well, the accurate question and answer about racism is which kind of society offers better opportunities and chances to succeed for a black person (or any color, white, yellow, any), a majorly black society or a majorly white society. No society is perfect, but I think people who keep bashing on the only one who did enormous efforts to improve, question itself and even sacrifice its own interests in favor of others, are indeed autistic.  

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JollyJoker
JollyJoker


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posted January 09, 2018 08:45 PM
Edited by JollyJoker at 20:53, 09 Jan 2018.

@ artu
Jews are no RACE, though...

Which means, we are already in agreement, that racial abuse isn't worse than others - depends on the sensivity.

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Elvin
Elvin


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posted January 10, 2018 05:17 AM

kiryu133 said:
I am also white which means I have little say in anything about racism or knowing how people of colour feel or are marginalized by society. That's not something I can comfortably talk about as I have not experienced it.

Take a trip to South Africa. White people are not safe even if they were born there and their business are being boycotted. The fact that you do not see racism where you live, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
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Kipshasz
Kipshasz


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posted January 10, 2018 04:44 PM

Elvin said:
kiryu133 said:
I am also white which means I have little say in anything about racism or knowing how people of colour feel or are marginalized by society. That's not something I can comfortably talk about as I have not experienced it.

Take a trip to South Africa. White people are not safe even if they were born there and their business are being boycotted. The fact that you do not see racism where you live, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.


There is no racism in the rape capital of the world. There is no racism where cops have to get military grade gear to enter some neighborhoods in certain cities (Malmo).

Sweden is a mess. It's not even Sverigestani Caliphate anymore, it's more like Swemalia at this point. A festering, failing state. Because it's better to commit nationwide suicide, than to appear "racist" to all the "asylum seekers" who have criminal intents. So, actually there's plenty of racism in Sweden, but they ignore it, thinking it'll go away. Tell that to the parents of a 15 year old, who got backstabbed by a "asylum seeker" in school, for standing up for some girls that were harassed by the murderer. and the murderer got away scot free, because tolerance and acceptance.

The "hip, rpogressive and tolerant" part of Swemalia don't see the obvious anti-white racism, even when they're being murdered by clearly racist immigrants. Hoobleepingray, GG, WP.
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