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Trogdor
Trogdor


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posted July 10, 2018 03:38 PM

Today in products hardly anyone will buy.....

Those Dutch are on LSD again, because now they're making shoes out of used chewies. I swear a lot of that gum was chewed by people who turn away at the idea of having a foot fetish. Haven't they heard of using rubbish bins?


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Maurice
Maurice

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posted July 10, 2018 03:55 PM

Trogdor said:
Haven't they heard of using rubbish bins?


Actually, if you take a look around here - especially in the larger cities - you wonder if people even know what a trash bin is. People seem to generally carelessly throw away whatever they are holding in their hands as soon as it has turned to trash, regardless of where it ends up. I've even seen people throw it on the ground within a few meters of a trash bin; people just don't seem to care anymore.

That being said, the fines for littering are ridiculously low here - especially since hardly anyone is ever caught and fined for littering to begin with.

In the mean time, the immediate area is getting more and more filthy, until finally the city sends cleaners, paid through tax money, to clean it all up.
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artu
artu


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posted July 10, 2018 04:18 PM

Really? I am very surprised to hear this, how clean and well-preserved your cities were, was one of the first things I admired most, even envied about Europe. The streets themselves were like museums. One thing I dissaprove is how you terminate stray animals though. Dogs, I can understand to a degree, since at nights, they can be dangerous in packs, especially for old citizens and so on, they do attack humans sometimes. But cats, they are the most clean, harmless animals of all, why terminate them and deal with rat colonies afterwards?
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Maurice
Maurice

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posted July 10, 2018 04:55 PM

Are we talking about the same Netherlands here?

Stray animals are usually sterilised, not euthanised; the latter is only done when the animal's health has deteriorated beyond acceptable levels.

Actually, most dogs and cats are chipped and whenever a stray one is found, they search for that chip. The chip contains ownership information, so the animal can be sent back to the owner - usually with a fine, for disregarding animal welfare.
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Drakon-Deus
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posted July 10, 2018 04:56 PM

Once, I encountered tourists from Canada that said they were surprised at how clean the streets in Bucharest were. Well, I have no idea about Canadian cities, but it was nice to hear.

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Salamandre
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posted July 10, 2018 05:24 PM

Maybe he confounds with Australia, where they decided to kill millions of cats, to preserve fauna.

Same here, no stray cats on streets, but Europe has also Greece and Romania, where millions of abandoned pets hang around.

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Kipshasz
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posted July 10, 2018 05:30 PM

there aren't any strays in the western europe, because the migrating dindu hordes ate them all.
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artu
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posted July 11, 2018 02:17 AM

@Maurice

I haven't been to Netherlands myself, it was a generalization about (Western) Europe: Extremely well-preserved cities. About "strays", the countries I have been to (England, Scotland, Italy, Belgium), there were none, cat or dog. A lot of my friends travel much more than me, including Netherlands, they happened to notice the same: No cats or dogs. Naturally, I haven't examined every single country's specific policy about this, but as far as I know, the deal is, strays are first taken into shelters and sterilized, there is a period of time for them to be adopted, if not, they are "put to sleep." A lot of people buy puppies and kittens, once they realize they are not toys, they get bored and leave them to the streets. "The chips" cover a very small portion. If this is not so in Netherlands, bravo.

@Sal

Nope. The Australian case is different. They escape into the wild and hunt endangered species. There is still "the wild" in Australia. That is Darwinistic irony at its best, people who brought the cats with the ships are now treating them as "nukes" as if they are so different in endangering the native species.

In Western Europe, there are no cats in the city though. At least, according to my standarts.

@Kip

Well said. Actually, the declining demographic of local youth in the West can also be explained by immigrants eating their babies at night.


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Kipshasz
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posted July 11, 2018 08:17 AM

actually "muh raycism" did that(your vice, buzzfeed, cosmo, salon and other garbage), and general degeneracy, like marxism, although, all the commie regimes ferociously defend the traditional family, but that's more on the need to have more of the oppressed proletariat.

also some socioeconomic factors as well.
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Neraus
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posted July 11, 2018 08:51 AM

@artu
Italian cities are clean? Boy, tell me where you went, I'm moving there as fast as I can.

Ok, maybe some historical centers are clean, but take a walk into the suburbs and you'll see the glory of dropped papers, gums and lots, and I mean lots of cigarette butts, sometimes in the morning you can even see bottles of beer spread around the doorsteps or at the base of fences. And let's not get started about the vicinity of the trash containers, give it time and it'll get overfilled to the point that you're forced to put things on the ground, there's this point on the road of my house that's filled with old furniture scraps.

Ok, maybe I'm painting a too bleak picture, but we do have a certain amount of filth.

Also, we in Sicily have a lot of strays, the town where I went to high school was a special hazard because it had packs of straydogs going around, I even was starting to be sorrounded once. In Catania instead (and in coastal cities) stray dogs are less common, but there are a lot of cats, when I take out the trash I see these little groups of cats hanging around like they just don't care and that's incredibly cute, though there's this cat without an eye that always makes me sad.
I think the reason we have less dogs here is because there is a significant Chinese community, that would explain the diminishing amount in the other town too.
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artu
artu


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My BS sensor is tingling again
posted July 11, 2018 08:59 AM
Edited by artu at 09:00, 11 Jul 2018.

@Kip

Nope, thereís nothing socio-economical about Europeans making less babies, itís not because they cant afford to have one. Itís because a serious amount of them willingly choose not to, since they dont feel enforced to it by tradition anymore. Thereís nothing wrong with that on an individual basis, of course, I also dont plan on having kids. But demographically, when there are too many people like that, you end up with an aging population, which causes issues. Had the reason been socio-economical like you said, that would have been a ďdegenerateĒ Marxist analysis though.

Anyway, I thought you were simply trolling about immigrants eating out the strays into extinction, so just added they are eating the babies, too. If you are being serious, thatís too lunatic a position for me to reply.
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Salamandre
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posted July 11, 2018 09:09 AM

Well, you claimed Europe terminates stray cats. The pets euthanasia here is set within very strict laws, it has to be only a last solution when everything else has been considered, so is just not true. But again, there is Europe and Europe.

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Neraus
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posted July 11, 2018 09:11 AM

artu said:
Well said. Actually, the declining demographic of local youth in the West can also be explained by immigrants eating their babies at night.




No, no, no. It goes like this: Chinks eat dogs, Immigrants eat any kind of stray, Commies eat babies.
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Salamandre
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posted July 11, 2018 09:14 AM
Edited by Salamandre at 09:53, 11 Jul 2018.

And Turks eat kebab.

artu said:

Nope, thereís nothing socio-economical about Europeans making less babies, itís not because they cant afford to have one.


Saying "there is nothing" is so ignorant. The economical factor is among the decisive factors affecting the decrease of natality nowadays. The cost of life in western Europe skyrocketed and multiplied by 2 digits within few decades, for instance acquiring a home is now out of question for a single person, and only possible by a high income couple, and even this with a 20-30 years bank credit. Which will constantly cripple your personal and familial options.  

Westerns values, as opposite to middle east ones, are very fond of transmitting a solid heritage to descendants, if you are struggling in having one, your desire of having kids is the first affected, or this became a modern challenge. Of course, another factor is some women deciding they want to pursuit a career instead of raising children but THIS is rather rare, because a) the tendency towards shaping a family and passing your genes is at the top of human nature, then b) the modern laws securing the career-preserving of women desiring to have children are enough solid.

Douglas Murray on this matter.

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Maurice
Maurice

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posted July 11, 2018 10:04 AM

artu said:
In Western Europe, there are no cats in the city though.


It depends a bit on how you define a stray. In the Netherlands, a lot of cat owners have the tendency to let My Little Kitty roam the neighborhood because they feel a cat "has to follow its nature". That it is leaving its excrements in other people's garden is something they don't care about.
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Kipshasz
Kipshasz


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posted July 11, 2018 10:06 AM

Salamandre said:
there is Europe and Europe.


Don't click the link if you value your sanity. DON'T.

Neraus, can you send an exorcist my way? I feel that I need their services, and my pagan priests alone won't cut it.
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artu
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posted July 11, 2018 10:11 AM

@Sal

But itís usually middle-class, upper middle-class who wont have kids, working class is still relatively more traditional. And the most untraditional countries about this are not the poorest European countries but the richest ones, how do you explain that then?

Cant check the link at the moment, I am about to go to sleep, but Iíd pick the word socio-cultural over socio-economical about Europeans having less children.
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Salamandre
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posted July 11, 2018 10:20 AM
Edited by Salamandre at 13:06, 11 Jul 2018.

look, I know almost no one who says "I don't want kids", but I hear tons of people saying "I/we can't afford one right now". It became a reality, then add to this the uncertainty of a lasting marriage - divorcing now became easier than ever, the economical anxiety of keeping a job, the general lack of public safety and the catastrophic push on reducing parental individual tools used to growth kids into adults, by replacing them with a politically driven and toxic state propaganda which keeps them immature and emotionally dependent for ever, you get some serious factors contributing to the decrease of natality.  

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Neraus
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posted July 11, 2018 10:22 AM

@Kip

Sure, do you prefer a Dominican or a Jesuit? In the mean time keep it occupied with a crucifix, those fiends can't stand the sight.
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Elvin
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What if Elvin was female?
posted July 11, 2018 10:36 AM

Speaking of curious products.

Pool Float With Cutout for Big Boobs!

I mean how did those poor souls live before that?
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