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Heroes Community > Heroes 5 - Modders Workshop > Thread: Heroes 5.5 - Just Want To Get This Right
Thread: Heroes 5.5 - Just Want To Get This Right
Gidoza
Gidoza


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posted August 18, 2018 03:20 PM

Heroes 5.5 - Just Want To Get This Right

Hi all,

I wanted to do some personal experimentation with changing skill trees and the like, and I was fiddling with the data files, but I couldn't quite get what I wanted to happen - or I *did* succeed, but missed certain details.  I was hoping someone could provide me just one example of how to do the following procedure so everything ends up going to Hoyle in the end.


Let's say that I want to swap Eagle Eye and Scholar (for example).  What I think I need to do is...

1.  The items need to be swapped.
2.  The dependencies of the items above may or may not need to be swapped if these two already have been swapped.
3.  I need to change the icons/pictures of the items in those slots so it doesn't register the same thing.
4.  I need to change the text information of the items in those slots so it doesn't register the same thing.
5.  I need to change the icon in the Skill Wheel (for every Hero type) so that's also in the right place, and also displays the right icon, and the right text.


Can someone step-by-step me so I can nail this?     Thanks!
-Gidoza

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dredknight
dredknight


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posted August 20, 2018 12:58 PM

1. I do not understand what you want to swap exactly? If you want to swap the items visually Heroes V backend files does not have information about the order of the perks that are in one school. I believe it takes them by the order they are found in the file but this is just unverified guess. So you have to change places of the perks in MMH55_index.pak file -> gamemechanics -> skills file or referencetables/skills. One of the two is correct. (answering your questions by memory as I do not have the game here).

2. True, if you swap the places of the perks the upper part of the dependency will follow. Mark of the sorcerer will swap places with Arcane brilliance. Counterspell will follow Arcane brilliance.

3.and 4. If you swap the skills icons and texts will follow, no need to do anything here.

5. This is known only by the Gryphn and Magnomagus.

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Gidoza
Gidoza


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posted August 20, 2018 11:02 PM

dredknight said:
1. I do not understand what you want to swap exactly? If you want to swap the items visually Heroes V backend files does not have information about the order of the perks that are in one school. I believe it takes them by the order they are found in the file but this is just unverified guess. So you have to change places of the perks in MMH55_index.pak file -> gamemechanics -> skills file or referencetables/skills. One of the two is correct. (answering your questions by memory as I do not have the game here).


Well Heroes 5.5 was able to move around skills and create the skill tree we have now, which is different than the Vanilla Heroes 5 skill tree.  I basically want to do the same thing.

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2. True, if you swap the places of the perks the upper part of the dependency will follow. Mark of the sorcerer will swap places with Arcane brilliance. Counterspell will follow Arcane brilliance.


What if I want Counterspell to follow something other than either of these?  Say...I don't know...be a basic skill in the Defence tree with no other dependency?  (example only)  Is it possible?

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3.and 4. If you swap the skills icons and texts will follow, no need to do anything here.


My question is also to ask where these things are located - I'd like to at least have the general idea of where I'm looking for these things.


5. This is known only by the Gryphn and Magnomagus.


Not much of an Open-Source Skill Wheel then, is it?

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