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Iewu
Iewu

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posted October 22, 2018 02:14 PM

I don't like people.

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blob2
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posted November 06, 2018 09:40 PM
Edited by blob2 at 21:42, 06 Nov 2018.

It's the worst time to be a gamer.

When I was younger games were only for nerds. But the only real bad journalism about games was that some psychologist, priest or out-of-touch reporter said those are brutal and raise agressive youngsters. Fun times.

Now we live in times when hatin' a mobile game is considered chauvinist, toxic and entitled. I would even turn a blind eye to this. But when I see so-called industry journalists calling "fellow" gamers names it's when something breaks in me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pxxwEUCrk4.

I'm not blind: I see SJW, liberal, soyboy,#pleasebehave & hipster agenda slowly creeping into gaming sites (yeah, sites about games as the name suggest). But seeing how deep those shills are in the big-wigs pockets is simply mind-boggling.

What a great time to be alive!

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posted November 07, 2018 10:04 PM

If they go woke, they get broke. That's the deal. The minute you start with all that degenerate crap, you lose everything.

Telltale Games is a great example.
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posted November 07, 2018 10:25 PM
Edited by blob2 at 22:26, 07 Nov 2018.

Let's hope so...

Alas, a great deal of gamers are people who aren't even interested in what's going on behind their back. They cheerfully spend their (or their parents) money on crap and thus fuel the industry. If it weren't so, microtransactions wouldn't even exist in the first place. Only the "entitled" ones see a problem here...

End Telltale has gone broke cause their formula went dry.

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posted November 08, 2018 07:48 AM

blob2 said:
It's the worst time to be a gamer.

When I was younger games were only for nerds. But the only real bad journalism about games was that some psychologist, priest or out-of-touch reporter said those are brutal and raise agressive youngsters. Fun times.

Now we live in times when hatin' a mobile game is considered chauvinist, toxic and entitled. I would even turn a blind eye to this. But when I see so-called industry journalists calling "fellow" gamers names it's when something breaks in me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pxxwEUCrk4.

I'm not blind: I see SJW, liberal, soyboy,#pleasebehave & hipster agenda slowly creeping into gaming sites (yeah, sites about games as the name suggest). But seeing how deep those shills are in the big-wigs pockets is simply mind-boggling.

What a great time to be alive!



Agreed. Being a gamer 15 years ago was really cool!
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Galaad
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posted November 08, 2018 09:46 AM

blob2 said:
Now we live in times when hatin' a mobile game is considered chauvinist, toxic and entitled.


We now live in the time of twitter and other social medias. People just flame there for anything about just any subject. I watched that video you linked and it sounded awfully familiar with Ubi and the M&M brand... Remember "H7 is a slave to its conservative fanbase" etc, no we just want a Heroes game that actually feels like one.
Hopefully PC market is not dead and there still are some great games coming out.
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Kipshasz
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Elvin's Darkside
posted November 08, 2018 10:25 AM

Galaad said:
blob2 said:
Now we live in times when hatin' a mobile game is considered chauvinist, toxic and entitled.


We now live in the time of twitter and other social medias. People just flame there for anything about just any subject. I watched that video you linked and it sounded awfully familiar with Ubi and the M&M brand... Remember "H7 is a slave to its conservative fanbase" etc, no we just want a Heroes game that actually feels like one.
Hopefully PC market is not dead and there still are some great games coming out.


Single Player PC games seem dying, save for some amazing titles from the indie scene.
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posted November 08, 2018 10:50 AM
Edited by blob2 at 10:00, 09 Nov 2018.

This will sound elitist, but this is not the popularity I had in mind when I was younger and wanted bigger attention to games in order to get better products (bigger budget and scope).

Well let's not dramatize, there are still good games I do enjoy and their scope and budgets are in place, but at the same time so many classic games (Heroes of M&M, C&C to name a few) and developers go into the gutter, because $ takes over. It's like with old people who are no longer needed in the modern world. You're out of the loop (not generate enough income) then you're out.

You Guys probably know where this is coming from, I'm quite a bit active on boards in this regard recently, but like I said, something really broke in me after the Blizzard fiasco. Maybe it's simply a case of "seeing is believing"...

EDIT: Welp. "Activision Blizzard's third quarter financial results were otherwise “better-than-expected,” bringing in roughly $22 million USD more than anticipated, with net revenues surpassing $1.5 billion USD. The company noted it had 345 million monthly active users across all of its properties, including 262 million from King games (the makers of Candy Crush Saga), 46 million from Activision games and 37 million from Blizzard games.". You can see how mobile gamers outclass other gamers in terms of numbers. Although makes me wonder if "Blizzard games" term includes Hearthstone players. This would suggest that of 100 mln Heartshtone users only a relatively small % are active...

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Elvin's Darkside
posted November 09, 2018 12:05 PM

majority of hearthstone players I assume are casuals, and never engaged in microtransaction crap.
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Geny
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What if Elvin was female?
posted November 09, 2018 12:08 PM

Question: all of you who are now deeply disappointed by the new Diablo announcement, were as disappointed when World of Warcraft rolled out?
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NimoStar
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posted November 09, 2018 12:37 PM
Edited by NimoStar at 12:39, 09 Nov 2018.

Weel WoW is a cash grab, and it killed immersive sandbox MMORPG in favor of "attraction rides" MMORPG where every player has "you are the chosen one" generic storyline, and you can't build in-game, so yes.

Fortunately games like Minecraft go back to the old MMORPG feeling :V

See here for what I mean:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars_Galaxies

Old MMORPGs had a thriving player-driven ingame economy, not "buy ingame currencuyu with real currency and exclusive items" like WoW, etc.

Quote:
Characters can erect, own and decorate a variety of buildings, including houses, cantinas, theaters, hospitals, guild halls and city halls. These buildings, when grouped, can be organized into cities. Players hold election] via ballot box for Mayor. Elected mayors grant city members certain rights to place structures within the city and disallow the use of various civic structures by individual players as needed. Elections are held every three weeks. If another player wishes to run for mayor they can add their name at any time to the ballot box to run against the incumbent. As cities grow in population, they become eligible to add services and facilities such as vehicle repair garages, shuttleports, cloning facilities, hospitals, cantinas and garden displays. They can show up on the planet maps alongside canonical cities such as Theed and Mos Eisley.

The gameplay design encouraged realistic social institutions such as a dynamic player economy and other real-life social phenomena like a complicated division of labor. According to Star Wars Galaxies and the Division of Labor,[29] the division of labor in Star Wars Galaxies around April 2005 produced in-game results similar to those in real life. Galaxies' original game design socialized players to specialize their characters by mastering one or two professions, and to join guilds, in which players relate to one another primarily in terms of their professions.

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posted November 11, 2018 05:59 PM

I live in a snowhole country. Literally.

Every straight male is polygamous. Somewhere in his subconsciousness, at least. No matter how much he tries to suppress it.
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blob2
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Blob-Ohmos the Second
posted November 11, 2018 10:25 PM
Edited by blob2 at 22:29, 11 Nov 2018.

Geny said:
Question: all of you who are now deeply disappointed by the new Diablo announcement, were as disappointed when World of Warcraft rolled out?


I was cool with it. At that point no one knew into what MMO genre would raise into, but I for one was pretty dope with the prospect of the Warcraft world going "big" (after enjoying Warcraft III so much).

Cash-grabbing would evolve one way or another...

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Geny
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What if Elvin was female?
posted November 12, 2018 09:04 AM

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I was cool with it

I absolutely hated it. It meant that Blizzard are burying my favorite RTS in favor of an MMORPG. And why? Because MMORPGs were big in those days and Blizzard could get more money by taking monthly subscriptions?!

That is what I was thinking for a while. In retrospect, however, I've changed my mind, even though I still never touched WoW. Because I feel I gotta give them credit where credit is due. They set out to do something and they did it freaking well. In a world with a good number of MMORPGs they made a game so iconic that nowadays the term MMORPG is pretty much synonymous with WoW. And I have a good number of friends that played and enjoyed it for years. So I can't really stay mad at Blizzard for doing something good, just because it wasn't meant for me specifically.

Right now, I see the whole Diablo thing the same way. They see what's working right now and they're moving towards it. We may not like it now, but who knows, maybe in five years time this new Diablo will be viral and you'll hardly find anyone not playing it on their phone and the Diablo universe will grow to epic proportions thanks to this mobile game.

As a side note, there is one more thing I feel we have to accept. We re getting old. I started my fourth decade on this planet. And while we are all still gamers to some extent, we are not the main target audience. The main targets will always be teenagers, because they have the most free time to play (usually). So if today's teens are really into phone games, for example, we can't really fault the big game industries for going with the flow.

And I suppose that's my unpopular opinion.
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What if Elvin was female?
posted November 12, 2018 09:13 AM

I’d like to point out that teenagers are not always main audience, adults are because they have more money. Most steam sales are to adults, for example.

Geny you turd, Warcraft 3 was already snowe. Brood War still the best Blizzard rts.
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Geny
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What if Elvin was female?
posted November 12, 2018 09:16 AM
Edited by Geny at 09:16, 12 Nov 2018.

Never said best, just favorite.

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Most steam sales are to adults, for example.

How do you figure?
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Galaad
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posted November 12, 2018 09:22 AM

I feel phone games are more for adults and consoles more for kids/teens. Parents purchase to the kids for christmas/birthdays etc while adults sink their paychecks in mobile phones microtransactions.

Maybe I'm not aware of reality.

Yeah Starcraft was awesome, I didn't play II but it looks like they did the same but better. My buddies who were very much into Brood War were very happy with II.
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posted November 12, 2018 10:20 AM
Edited by blob2 at 10:24, 12 Nov 2018.

Geny said:
And I have a good number of friends that played and enjoyed it for years. So I can't really stay mad at Blizzard for doing something good, just because it wasn't meant for me specifically.


Yeah, I had friends who were really into it. What actually kept me from it was the subscription fee. The concept of paying monthly for a game after buying it is still somewhat controversial to me. And I don't wanna elaborate on the subject, it simply is. I eventually played WoW for a while after it was made free with some content. This short while only confirmed that MMORPG's are not my cup of tea (I like more you-centric games), but the game was still enjoyable.

Geny said:
Right now, I see the whole Diablo thing the same way. They see what's working right now and they're moving towards it. We may not like it now, but who knows, maybe in five years time this new Diablo will be viral and you'll hardly find anyone not playing it on their phone and the Diablo universe will grow to epic proportions thanks to this mobile game.


I've never seen the idea of going mobile as a bad business decision. The problem is how easily it was for Blizzard to screw their PC fanbase. They could've handeled this so much delicately. But frankly they don't give a crap, or maybe they just handled this unintentionally poorly (yeah, right). Besides while WoW was a natural expansion of the Warcraft franchise (we now see to what big propotions it grew, good or bad), I don't see any real value in Immortal: it's using assets from Diablo III, it covers the time between II & III which is not moving the story in any way, and it brings nothing new to the franchise (classes for instance). You might be right that it will eventually bring something good. What I think is that Blizzard will be more and more keen on making more mobile games, eventually scrapping most of their other genre/platform ideas. A calculated buisness decison.

Geny said:
As a side note, there is one more thing I feel we have to accept. We re getting old. I started my fourth decade on this planet. And while we are all still gamers to some extent, we are not the main target audience. The main targets will always be teenagers, because they have the most free time to play (usually). So if today's teens are really into phone games, for example, we can't really fault the big game industries for going with the flow.


Oh I did accept it. Well not in the sense I'm ok with it, but I guess there's nothing I can do about it. The Blizzard thing was something of a sad reminder of where we are atm. Money turns the gears, and eventually "classic" gamers will be a sort of curiosity/hobbists. They won't die off, but most people won't even remember the genres that were played in 90's/00's. Maybe in future something like full-dive technology will push out traditional games?

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What if Elvin was female?
posted November 12, 2018 10:34 AM

I don't think "classic" gaming will die off, at least not for long. It might become niche though. For instance, did you notice the whole "retro" trend that started some years ago? Lots of indie companies making old school games with old, sometimes even 8-bit, graphics? And for many of them it worked. So I feel that there will always be a market for something that people can nostalgia over.
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posted November 12, 2018 07:19 PM

Geny said:
I don't think "classic" gaming will die off, at least not for long. It might become niche though. For instance, did you notice the whole "retro" trend that started some years ago? Lots of indie companies making old school games with old, sometimes even 8-bit, graphics? And for many of them it worked. So I feel that there will always be a market for something that people can nostalgia over.


It seems to me most indie games are platformers/sidescrollers cus that's what 8-bit nostalgia is about apparently. Unfortunately TBS games do not seem to be getting the same attention. Plus there's the fact that I'm older and probably more grumpy

Oh well, we need to patiently wait and see how things will turn out.


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