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artu
artu


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My BS sensor is tingling again
posted September 09, 2018 11:29 AM

Your own link says that the cause of sub-saharan gap is a matter of dispute and adds:

"The Worldwide Pattern of IQ Scores. East Asians average higher on IQ tests than Whites, both in the U. S. and in Asia, even though IQ tests were developed for use in the Euro-American culture. Around the world, the average IQ for East Asians centers around 106; for Whites, about 100; and for Blacks about 85 in the U.S. and 70 in sub-Saharan Africa."

Now, how come the same blacks have 15 points higher average IQ in the U.S. then? It is not the same genes? What I told you was that there are indeed differences between countries (or regions) but A) The gap is not distinctive in the sense that, a sub-saharan can still turn out smarter than an Asian, so "an average" doesn't conclude racial qualifications. B)The cause of differences in backwardness is historical, not genetics. What I mean by that is, people from every gene group has the potential to have high IQ but things like nutrition, education, abstraction level of social interaction you face affect IQ greatly. Intelligence is like a muscle, some people have better jumping skills genetically but what also matters greatly is the platform and the opportunity to improve it by using it: Practice.
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monere
monere


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posted September 09, 2018 11:35 AM
Edited by monere at 11:42, 09 Sep 2018.

As a Romanian Salamandre has gotten part of the problem right when he's said "...often razed and pillaged by their neighbors expansions"

Throughout the history Romania has always been the dispute of bigger forces (the Roman empire, the Otoman Empire, USSR, etc.). This country has been constantly stolen from for 2000 years (maybe more) with, or without the help of our corrupt politicians, unskilled rulers, or downright traitors. Even when communism has fallen at the 1989 revolution country traitors have struck deals with Russian government for Russia to invade us with the army and stealthily kill many more citizens when compared to how many have "naturally" died for the country in 1989, and all under the pretext of intervening in the aid of the "poor Romanians" who couldn't defend against the atrocious regime of Ceausescu. This would have been the official pretext of Russia's invasion of Romania and it's only because of a brave army general in conjunction with the Romanian secret service's actions that have kept us from becoming a Russian colony.

And this has been going on for thousands of years. Romanians have never been left alone to develop and to live the good life they want because our country is too rich. We have waters, we have mountains, breathtaking landscapes, tasty and healthy food, some of the most beautiful women in the world are Romanians, we are smart (well, we used to be anyway ), we have natural riches (gold, even oil I think, but stay there Americans! Our oil is not enough of to justify your invading of our country )... our country has always been rich, and the reason we have never lived the life we want has also to do with the voracious foreigners who come here only to take, never to give anything. We could have lived so much much MUCH better than even Germany, or USA... had we been left alone, AND had we not been lazy bums. Sadly, it's our own fault, too, cause we have so many good things in this country but we are always lazy to work for our well being. And last but not least, the corruption. Corruption in the right places (in Government most of the time) can ruin any county on this planet, no matter how powerful or rich that country is. When the law doesn't treat the poor and the rich equally things are prone to go bad for any nation


EDIT: here's a list of great Romanian people throughout the recent history of mankind, just so you know that we are not naturally a 3rd world country. Well, we might be that now, but for the reasons I've explained above, but otherwise Romania is "responsible" for a great deal of today mankind's accomplishments. Just look at this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Romanian_inventors_and_discoverers

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Salamandre
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posted September 09, 2018 11:51 AM

monere said:
mankind


Since you asked what is political correctness, please don't use the term "mankind" as it may be offensive to some

And I don't agree on romanians being lazy. For one who lived in Romania, then Austria, Italy and finally France I still think romanians have/had the best discipline and will. Now, some are lazy as everywhere.

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monere
monere


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posted September 09, 2018 12:07 PM
Edited by monere at 12:09, 09 Sep 2018.

Salamandre said:
monere said:
mankind


Since you asked what is political correctness, please don't use the term "mankind" as it may be offensive to some

And I don't agree on romanians being lazy. For one who lived in Romania, then Austria, Italy and finally France I still think romanians have/had the best discipline and will. Now, some are lazy as everywhere.


HA! I didn't know you lived here. Even if you did, I hope we treated you well, because - for some strange reason - we always treat foreigners better than our own people LOL

Anyway, I see what you mean by political correctness, but I don't think this applies to the context I was talking about. If you were referring to the term "mankind" in the context that Romanians' inventions and discoveries in high priority fields (medical, scientific, etc.) have helped people then this is NOT political correctness because those inventions are continuously helping the entire human race. I'm sure the insulin, for example, saves lives of people of all races and nationalities.

Also, yeah, I agree that we are not lazy bumps the way I've put it, but some of us are, and the others (who are not lazy), can still do more but they choose not to. That's what I was referring to, even if I didn't specify it.

May I know where you've lived in Romania and for how long? Also, did your job take you here, or leisure / travel?

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blob2
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posted September 09, 2018 12:08 PM
Edited by blob2 at 12:09, 09 Sep 2018.

monere said:
As a Romanian Salamandre has gotten part of the problem right when he's said "...often razed and pillaged by their neighbors expansions"


Kinda similar to Poland. If we were left alone in the last 100 or so years, who knows were my country would be now. In 1920s we were one of the fastes growing nations in Europe. Great Manufacturies (in many cases with Jewish owners) were blooming. Many aspects of culture: architecture, arts, crafts, music, cinema were top-notch. Our problem was that we choose "cultural" progress instead of military one. One would say we didn't stand a chance while attacked from both sides, but maybe if we would hold longer (our army was very undeveloped) Brittain and France actually decided to help us (they didn't do their part of the treaty unfortunately). Then came Communism which literally "disintegrated" our society, made us mistrustful, envious, calculated and materialistic (well ofc some of our national vices were there, but still). In short it brought out the worst in us. I don't know if we'll ever recover from it (not economically, I think we are doing a good job, I was thinking about our nature).

But with all the negative information you hear about Poland nowadays (mainly because our stupid nationalistic goverment which destroys our country from the inside), I still think we can be quite liberal, sometimes even more then the "West". For instance Tatars, an Islamic minority which integrated very well (cause they aren't restitutionary) are living peacfully and without issues. Racist incidents happen, but my countryman will accept people who show they want to add something to our society. We don't want to bring in middle-eastern immigrants cus we're afraid of what's happening in some European nations: riots, no-entry zones, rapes etc. I mean, my country is not free from this, but at least our criminal charts don't go way up.

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Salamandre
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posted September 09, 2018 12:16 PM

monere, I am romanian. Left right after the revolution, in 1990, for better worlds and more torrid girls. The first part worked.

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monere
monere


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posted September 09, 2018 12:16 PM

@blob2... yeah, our countries share many similarities, and I think Poland and Romania could become really good friends, despite of our past. And speaking of past... the world wars have been an evil era for everyone, so you're not the only ones who have been affected, but at least you guys have recovered quite nicely from it. We are still fumbling in the dark looking for that little light that could save us from the ill-fate of poverty, ignorance and the alikes.

I think life expectancy is higher in Poland when compared to Romania and this shows that your government is more competent than ours

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monere
monere


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posted September 09, 2018 12:19 PM

Salamandre said:
monere, I am romanian. Left right after the revolution, in 1990, for better worlds and more torrid girls. The first part worked.


Oh, Ok then. Where did you use to live while in Romania? Just curious...

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Salamandre
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posted September 09, 2018 12:27 PM

Jerusalem

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monere
monere


Famous Hero
posted September 09, 2018 12:31 PM

Salamandre said:
Jerusalem


Huh?? Not sure if you're making fun of me, or you were trying to make a joke but failed

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Salamandre
Salamandre


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Wog refugee
posted September 09, 2018 12:37 PM

Was trolling to say "in the capital".

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monere
monere


Famous Hero
posted September 09, 2018 12:40 PM

Salamandre said:
Was trolling to say "in the capital".


Well, in that case we know one Romanian that is NOT smart because he didn't get the reference

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Neraus
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posted September 09, 2018 01:34 PM

Your true capital is Rome, Dacian, there is no other capital in the world other than Rome, other than maybe Persepolis, or that city our dignitaries once found over the horizon to the east.
But they are mere grains of sand compared to ROME!
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Kipshasz
Kipshasz


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posted September 09, 2018 01:42 PM

All of the south belong to Rome. That's right. Everything in the North belongs to the Glorious Litvo-Polak Empire.
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artu
artu


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My BS sensor is tingling again
posted September 09, 2018 02:00 PM

Salamandre said:
I am Romanian. Left right after the revolution, in 1990, for better worlds and more torrid girls.

They seem okay!
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Salamandre
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posted September 09, 2018 02:52 PM

Well okay on paper, but the motto was "no sex until marriage", now put in men position and you get why I migrate.

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Zenofex
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posted September 09, 2018 03:11 PM

Should've moved south if that was the prime motive, no such problem here. But, granted, as a pianist you would probably starve, unless you switch to teaching the mutant mix between Goran Bregovich and kebab folk music which very popular around these parts.

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NoobX
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posted September 09, 2018 03:19 PM

"No sex until marriage" is a motto no longer used.  Girls lose their virginity by the age of 16 here.
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artu
artu


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My BS sensor is tingling again
posted September 09, 2018 03:37 PM

And they say there's no progress.
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NoobX
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posted September 09, 2018 03:45 PM

We're going somewhere, that's for sure
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