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Heroes Community > Library of Enlightenment > Thread: Frenzy vs Clone
Thread: Frenzy vs Clone
Otuken
Otuken


Known Hero
posted September 09, 2018 06:45 AM

Frenzy vs Clone

I wonder could frenzy be as useful as clone? Frenzy can be great situationally but should be used very carefully as everybody know. I think Frenzy could work well with sacrifice spell otherwise it is bad and clone is great.
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zmudziak22
zmudziak22


Famous Hero
posted September 12, 2018 05:38 PM

Frenzy is mostly used in Custom Maps, they best work with your best level 7 stack, and when enemy has better defense points then your attack.

Archdevils are very good for frenzy because of their speed and no retallion.

Expert Frenzy convert defense points of stack to attack so you can hit harder tough opponnent.

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monere
monere


Famous Hero
posted September 12, 2018 05:47 PM
Edited by monere at 17:47, 12 Sep 2018.

zmudziak22 said:
Frenzy... best work with your best level 7 stack


I thought Frenzy was better with lower tier creatures. Well, I've used Frenzy on dendroid soldiers and they hurt with frenzy on

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Otuken
Otuken


Known Hero
posted September 12, 2018 06:24 PM

zmudziak22 said:
Frenzy is mostly used in Custom Maps, they best work with your best level 7 stack, and when enemy has better defense points then your attack.

Archdevils are very good for frenzy because of their speed and no retallion.

Expert Frenzy convert defense points of stack to attack so you can hit harder tough opponnent.


I think frenzy is better than clone only with combining of sacrifice spell for to resurrect devils in specific situations. Otherwise it will like a creature trade since frenzied unit will get annihilated easily. But generally clone is better.
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Maurice
Maurice

Hero of Order
Part of the furniture
posted September 12, 2018 06:44 PM

What synergy are you seeing between Sacrifice and Frenzy? Frenzy reduces Defense to increase Attack, while Sacrifice resurrects a stack based on the health of the sacrificed creatures' health. I guess I am missing the point of what you're aiming at?

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Salamandre
Salamandre


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
posted September 12, 2018 06:55 PM

Bloodlust vs bless, stoneskin vs shield, dispel vs cure, haste vs prayer, fire ball vs inferno, chain vs meteor, here a couple of relevant dilemmas. Frenzy vs clone, wtf? They are far from having same purpose and close effects, is this just a question to notify us you are active or, what tomorrow, Armageddon vs mirth?
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Otuken
Otuken


Known Hero
posted September 12, 2018 11:19 PM

Frenzied 7.th level creature will eventually die in frontal battles or tough sieges it is unavoidable because this spell reduce defense to 0. Resurrection spell may not be enough but sacrifice spell will totally bring back dead stack.

They are far from having same purpose? Why just don't you write their separete purposes if you know? People ask and read these kind of questions for get more information not for seeing arrogance.
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Salamandre
Salamandre


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Wog refugee
posted September 13, 2018 08:54 AM

Those are assumptions only and such synergies make no sense. Frenzied stacks do not have to die, there is a possibility one is smart when using the spell, then sacrifice spell is awful solution - to be used only in final battles - as the sacrificed stack vanishes and there is no way to resurrect it back. Also there is a cap to how high your attack is before generating zero additional damage so higher stats your hero or/and the stack have, less effective frenzy will be and will become often harmless.

Then clone has a variety of uses, from cloning your shooters so you never get out of ammo (cloned stack always starts with full ammo), cloning your archangels (the most used) to resurrect huge stacks in one turn, cloning a top speed stack to take retaliation, block a path and so on.  

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zmudziak22
zmudziak22


Famous Hero
posted September 13, 2018 12:24 PM

I also like to have Water Magic on Heretics so i can clone Devils. It's good if you fight large 7 stacks so you can hide devils and clone behind force field.

frenzy work great after enemy moves and casted spells.

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phe
phe


Famous Hero
Life and Freedom
posted September 13, 2018 05:34 PM

Ever tried frenzied clones?

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