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Heroes Community > Library of Enlightenment > Thread: About Animate Dead
Thread: About Animate Dead
phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


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posted January 08, 2019 10:08 PM
Edited by phoenix4ever at 22:09, 08 Jan 2019.

About Animate Dead

Is it just me or is it sometimes really hard to learn Animate Dead?
I mean it can only be learned in Necro Mage Guilds, while Resurrection can be learned in all towns except Stronghold and Fortress.
When playing Necro I often finish the game when I haven't even learned Animate Dead. It seems like kind of a disadvantage for Necro. Of course you could always start with Thant or hope to get Tome of Earth, but without those you might never learn it.
Perhaps other evil towns Dungeon and Inferno should have had a chance to get it as well?

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bloodsucker
bloodsucker


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posted January 08, 2019 10:25 PM

The problem is the other towns don't have much use for it, so you would be cursing all over if you got that when you desperately need Earthquake or AntiMagic.
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phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


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posted January 08, 2019 10:52 PM

Yes, but Necro have no use for Mirth, Frenzy, Resurrection, Armageddon or Sacrifice either...

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bloodsucker
bloodsucker


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posted January 08, 2019 11:16 PM
Edited by bloodsucker at 23:21, 08 Jan 2019.

On the contrary, Mirth is very useful with Necropolis, cause you will have troops of other races and those will be extremely affected by the presence of the undead but necro heroes will not get Leadership.
And while Animate Dead is only useful for undead all other spells can be useful with most units of all races (yeah, I know: Conflux).
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phoenix4ever
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posted January 08, 2019 11:56 PM

Yeah I suppose if you rely on creatures from banks or other towns, but sometimes you will have an all undead army and then those spells are useless.
Since I don't use that super overpowered Town Portal combining forces are not that easy in my game...

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Maurice
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posted January 09, 2019 09:59 AM

You could also get Thant and use a Hero with Scholar and Wisdom to teach it to all of your other Heroes. There are some that start with Scholar and Wisdom and all you'd need then is to give them a level-up to get to Advanced Scholar. Since Animate Dead is a Tier 3 spell, that's all you'd need.
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phoenix4ever
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posted January 09, 2019 01:10 PM

Yes you are right Maurice, that's also what I meant with starting with Thant and then either pick him as main hero or have someone scholar the spell from him.
But that means you always have to start with him.

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bloodsucker
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posted January 09, 2019 10:23 PM

phoenix4ever said:
Since I don't use that super overpowered Town Portal combining forces are not that easy in my game...

You mean, since I don't play random maps. In all template maps you will find a bunch of banks around your starting area and much before you build mage guild of level 4 (much less start spell research for the OP TP) any reasonable player will have more powerful stacks coming from those then from any town he might have.
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phoenix4ever
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posted January 09, 2019 11:32 PM

Right, I don't play random maps either.

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bloodsucker
bloodsucker


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posted January 10, 2019 07:22 AM

So you want the HotA team to change the game to accommodate your very own style of gaming even when you accept that will do worst for the rest of us common mortals?
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phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


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posted January 10, 2019 07:43 AM

Where exactly have I asked anyone to change anything?
I just asked for opinions, that's all.
I could easily change it myself if I wanted to.

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bloodsucker
bloodsucker


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posted January 10, 2019 07:47 AM

Right! Sorry for the overstatement.
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phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


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posted January 10, 2019 08:13 AM

Ok, no problem.

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bloodsucker
bloodsucker


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posted January 10, 2019 09:32 PM

Why don't you simply set it to always appear in any Necropolis town you have on the map? May not be an elegant solution but will do what you want and I think you still can research the spell if you get it in two towns.
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phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


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posted January 10, 2019 10:33 PM
Edited by phoenix4ever at 22:48, 10 Jan 2019.

For two reasons:
I don't have any Necro towns in my map, all towns are random towns.
Second reason is I don't use spell research, I don't like it.

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bloodsucker
bloodsucker


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posted January 10, 2019 10:42 PM
Edited by bloodsucker at 22:43, 10 Jan 2019.

Can't you set his probability to 100% in Necro towns?
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phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


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posted January 10, 2019 10:48 PM
Edited by phoenix4ever at 22:51, 10 Jan 2019.

Oh, now I understand. Yeah I guess I could do that, but I don't really want them to have 100% chance of getting it either.
I'm a tough customer, I know.

It's just Resurrection can be learned in 8/10 towns, but Animate Dead only in 1/10, it does'nt really seem fair...
When Factory comes, it will either be 8/11 or 9/11 and 1/11.

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