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Maurice
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posted May 21, 2019 10:38 AM |
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phoenix4ever said:
Ravens is an excellent idea, I'm gonna go with that. Now we just need to find some weak ability for them.
How about the upgraded version having some form of "Vision" spell active?
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phoenix4ever
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posted May 21, 2019 10:45 AM |
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The upgraded versions could have basic Visions I guess, but it would be just like Rogue's ability then. I would rather have a brand new ability.
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planetavril
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posted May 21, 2019 10:49 AM |
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CountBezuhoff said:
Just a quick remark, why has everyone forgotten the Vori elves? Surely, they deserve a unit!
Otherwise, pretty dope ideas, especially the Cathedral, but I'm failing to see what this thread is trying to accomplish. Maybe indicate to the HoTA team that a Vori-based town is warranted? Or that they shouldn't stop cranking out content?
The Count
exactly the second always if in the team they feel the desire to do it by continuing with their ideas,
however the thread started as a survey on how many hypothetical cities would be well in play, not their composition, so it went completely off topic
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LordInsane
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posted May 21, 2019 04:51 PM |
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CountBezuhoff said:
Just a quick remark, why has everyone forgotten the Vori elves? Surely, they deserve a unit!
Otherwise, pretty dope ideas, especially the Cathedral, but I'm failing to see what this thread is trying to accomplish. Maybe indicate to the HoTA team that a Vori-based town is warranted? Or that they shouldn't stop cranking out content?
The Count
In phoenix4ever's concept there's always the possibility of making the Cryopriest visibly a snow elf (my own summary, written before they posted their concept, suggested that the Vori elves could dominate the heroes of the faction).
I guess the initial purpose of the thread more-or-less ran its course and drifted into thinking about what kind of towns HotA could add, which drifted into town ideas. Pretty far from the original purpose of the thread, but at least it is still on topic for the forum, even if it unlikely much if any of it will get beyond the level of thought experiments. But they're interesting thought experiments that lead to interesting discussions, so that's fine!
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
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posted May 21, 2019 04:57 PM |
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For me the thread is already worthwhile because I learned a bit of M&M lore.
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phoenix4ever
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posted May 21, 2019 05:36 PM |
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LordInsane said:
But they're interesting thought experiments that lead to interesting discussions, so that's fine!
Yes it's at least fun to think about and discuss and I had fun making the baselines of a new town. I could work more on it and think of stats for creatures, which skills, specialties and spells heroes should have and so on, but I dont know if there is any point in doing that.
If HotA would actually implement a similar town or perhaps use some of my creature abilities or use some of the creatures as neutral creatures that would also be perfectly fine. I would also be willing to work with them and playtesting the town etc.
But to sum it all up, I think an ice based town could be really fun (and different) in HotA.
I would also like a town quite opposite, that is focused on Fire Magic, but were the creatures are not immune to Fire Magic like Conflux and stupid Inteus.
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planetavril
Famous Hero
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posted May 21, 2019 05:54 PM |
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LordInsane said:
CountBezuhoff said:
Just a quick remark, why has everyone forgotten the Vori elves? Surely, they deserve a unit!
Otherwise, pretty dope ideas, especially the Cathedral, but I'm failing to see what this thread is trying to accomplish. Maybe indicate to the HoTA team that a Vori-based town is warranted? Or that they shouldn't stop cranking out content?
The Count
In phoenix4ever's concept there's always the possibility of making the Cryopriest visibly a snow elf (my own summary, written before they posted their concept, suggested that the Vori elves could dominate the heroes of the faction).
I guess the initial purpose of the thread more-or-less ran its course and drifted into thinking about what kind of towns HotA could add, which drifted into town ideas. Pretty far from the original purpose of the thread, but at least it is still on topic for the forum, even if it unlikely much if any of it will get beyond the level of thought experiments. But they're interesting thought experiments that lead to interesting discussions, so that's fine!
wait I did not understand, do you think that HotA has drifted with city ideas?
I do not think so
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LordInsane
Known Hero
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posted May 21, 2019 06:01 PM |
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planetavril said:
LordInsane said:
CountBezuhoff said:
Just a quick remark, why has everyone forgotten the Vori elves? Surely, they deserve a unit!
Otherwise, pretty dope ideas, especially the Cathedral, but I'm failing to see what this thread is trying to accomplish. Maybe indicate to the HoTA team that a Vori-based town is warranted? Or that they shouldn't stop cranking out content?
The Count
In phoenix4ever's concept there's always the possibility of making the Cryopriest visibly a snow elf (my own summary, written before they posted their concept, suggested that the Vori elves could dominate the heroes of the faction).
I guess the initial purpose of the thread more-or-less ran its course and drifted into thinking about what kind of towns HotA could add, which drifted into town ideas. Pretty far from the original purpose of the thread, but at least it is still on topic for the forum, even if it unlikely much if any of it will get beyond the level of thought experiments. But they're interesting thought experiments that lead to interesting discussions, so that's fine!
wait I did not understand, do you think that HotA has drifted with city ideas?
I do not think so
No, I think this thread has drifted from HotA to a more general 'ideas for new towns for Heroes 3' discussion.
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verriker
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posted May 21, 2019 06:05 PM |
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if you are crap on MM lore I recommend to visit a lore site like MM Wiki (albeit full of huge errors), there are also many great ones in Polish like the Acidcave or Behemoth's Lair, or Demilich and Tavern in Russian (English speaking community generally is ignorant of lore) cheers lol
btw how about the Phynaxia town of olden days, nobody bothered to conceive what the historical nation of Phynaxia was all about thus what are your ideas cheers lol
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LordInsane
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posted May 21, 2019 06:42 PM |
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verriker said:
if you are crap on MM lore I recommend to visit a lore site like MM Wiki (albeit full of huge errors), there are also many great ones in Polish like the Acidcave or Behemoth's Lair, or Demilich and Tavern in Russian (English speaking community generally is ignorant of lore) cheers lol
btw how about the Phynaxia town of olden days, nobody bothered to conceive what the historical nation of Phynaxia was all about thus what are your ideas cheers lol
Well, likely its elite troops were defensively oriented, given they used their limited stalt resources on shields. Since stalt's primary cited advantage is that it takes well to enchantment, Phynaxia was likely a nation with a fair degree of magical aptitude, so not a Mages Guild Level 3 town. Plain-centred cultures tend to like horses if they have access to them, so some form of cavalry is likely.
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planetavril
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posted May 21, 2019 07:18 PM |
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LordInsane said:
planetavril said:
LordInsane said:
CountBezuhoff said:
Just a quick remark, why has everyone forgotten the Vori elves? Surely, they deserve a unit!
Otherwise, pretty dope ideas, especially the Cathedral, but I'm failing to see what this thread is trying to accomplish. Maybe indicate to the HoTA team that a Vori-based town is warranted? Or that they shouldn't stop cranking out content?
The Count
In phoenix4ever's concept there's always the possibility of making the Cryopriest visibly a snow elf (my own summary, written before they posted their concept, suggested that the Vori elves could dominate the heroes of the faction).
I guess the initial purpose of the thread more-or-less ran its course and drifted into thinking about what kind of towns HotA could add, which drifted into town ideas. Pretty far from the original purpose of the thread, but at least it is still on topic for the forum, even if it unlikely much if any of it will get beyond the level of thought experiments. But they're interesting thought experiments that lead to interesting discussions, so that's fine!
wait I did not understand, do you think that HotA has drifted with city ideas?
I do not think so
No, I think this thread has drifted from HotA to a more general 'ideas for new towns for Heroes 3' discussion.
ok, now i agree
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Lord_Immortal
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DoR Dev Team
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posted May 21, 2019 08:36 PM |
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Palace
The Palace is the Desert faction of Heroes III. Its architecture is a mix of Ottoman, Indian, Ancient Egyptian and Ancient Persian. It represents the civilizations in the Dragonsand Desert in Enroth, Ironsand in West Jadame and the desert peoples of East Jadame.
Hero Classes:
Might Hero - Assassin(arabian/persian themed inspired from Nizari Assassins - artwork from Stronghold Crusader):
Male Assassin
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Male Mystic
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Wasps(1), Thieves&Rogues(2), Nomads(3), Narasimhas(4), Trolls(5), Enchanters(6) and Anubises(7).
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Lv.2: Thief -> Rogue
Lv.3: Nomad -> Desert Chief
Lv.4: Narasimha -> Narasimha Raja*
Lv.5: Troll -> War Troll
Lv.6: Enchanter -> High Enchanter**
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**High Enchanter takes inspiration from this Might and Magic Creature. Has the same Helmet, the Ornate Moon with the flag and the Necklace.
The following days I'm thinking of conceiving two or three more factions: Cathedral - religious fanatics of East Jadame at war with the Palace.
Battlement - Formerly Kronverk, a joint faction of Vori Elves and snow creatures.
?????????? - possibly an West Jadame faction that includes Wererats, Dark Dwarves, Dark Elves and other creatures.
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verriker
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posted May 21, 2019 08:46 PM |
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LordInsane said:
Well, likely its elite troops were defensively oriented, given they used their limited stalt resources on shields. Since stalt's primary cited advantage is that it takes well to enchantment, Phynaxia was likely a nation with a fair degree of magical aptitude, so not a Mages Guild Level 3 town. Plain-centred cultures tend to like horses if they have access to them, so some form of cavalry is likely.
very good thinking, it for sure makes sense with the Phynaxian Dragoons and the great steppes cheers,
I have wondered what kind of races would inhabit Phynaxia, perhaps (since they were unfortunately a loser nation) it would have been the homeland for some of the neutrals who wander the land aimlessly in the modern world such as the Rogues, the Trolls and the Werewolf, perhaps even some unheard of races which became extinct because Phynaxia was wiped cheers lol
for me they were clearly a nation offensive enough to somehow annoy Erathia and AvLee but not as sketchy as Nighon or the Evil Cathedral, thus I would make them literal trolls and other freaks and weirdoes of the plains who did not fit in to the racist Erathia philosophy and world view (like a Rohan to Erathia's Gondor) cheers lol
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Oddball13579
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posted May 21, 2019 08:54 PM |
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LordInsane said:
planetavril said:
LordInsane said:
CountBezuhoff said:
Just a quick remark, why has everyone forgotten the Vori elves? Surely, they deserve a unit!
Otherwise, pretty dope ideas, especially the Cathedral, but I'm failing to see what this thread is trying to accomplish. Maybe indicate to the HoTA team that a Vori-based town is warranted? Or that they shouldn't stop cranking out content?
The Count
In phoenix4ever's concept there's always the possibility of making the Cryopriest visibly a snow elf (my own summary, written before they posted their concept, suggested that the Vori elves could dominate the heroes of the faction).
I guess the initial purpose of the thread more-or-less ran its course and drifted into thinking about what kind of towns HotA could add, which drifted into town ideas. Pretty far from the original purpose of the thread, but at least it is still on topic for the forum, even if it unlikely much if any of it will get beyond the level of thought experiments. But they're interesting thought experiments that lead to interesting discussions, so that's fine!
wait I did not understand, do you think that HotA has drifted with city ideas?
I do not think so
No, I think this thread has drifted from HotA to a more general 'ideas for new towns for Heroes 3' discussion.
I don't think the thread has drifted from HotA. Because HotA was designed to fix bugs and also add new towns that are already in the HoMM3 and M&M universe. Cathedral and the Vori are two such factions. And Cathedral was already conceived and being designed and worked on before the HotA had their falling out that set back there progress several years.
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planetavril
Famous Hero
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posted May 22, 2019 12:50 AM |
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Oddball13579 said:
LordInsane said:
planetavril said:
LordInsane said:
CountBezuhoff said:
Just a quick remark, why has everyone forgotten the Vori elves? Surely, they deserve a unit!
Otherwise, pretty dope ideas, especially the Cathedral, but I'm failing to see what this thread is trying to accomplish. Maybe indicate to the HoTA team that a Vori-based town is warranted? Or that they shouldn't stop cranking out content?
The Count
In phoenix4ever's concept there's always the possibility of making the Cryopriest visibly a snow elf (my own summary, written before they posted their concept, suggested that the Vori elves could dominate the heroes of the faction).
I guess the initial purpose of the thread more-or-less ran its course and drifted into thinking about what kind of towns HotA could add, which drifted into town ideas. Pretty far from the original purpose of the thread, but at least it is still on topic for the forum, even if it unlikely much if any of it will get beyond the level of thought experiments. But they're interesting thought experiments that lead to interesting discussions, so that's fine!
wait I did not understand, do you think that HotA has drifted with city ideas?
I do not think so
No, I think this thread has drifted from HotA to a more general 'ideas for new towns for Heroes 3' discussion.
I don't think the thread has drifted from HotA. Because HotA was designed to fix bugs and also add new towns that are already in the HoMM3 and M&M universe. Cathedral and the Vori are two such factions. And Cathedral was already conceived and being designed and worked on before the HotA had their falling out that set back there progress several years.
you can't say that hota fell into disrepair for several years, from news there was some mistake that didn't allow adding other cities, as soon as they managed to solve it by rewriting their reverse engineer code they announced Factory,
that's why I would also expect other cities now that the error that didn't allow them to be added has been solved
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Oddball13579
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Grandmaster of the Hunt
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posted May 22, 2019 01:51 AM |
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planetavril said:
you can't say that hota fell into disrepair for several years, from news there was some mistake that didn't allow adding other cities, as soon as they managed to solve it by rewriting their reverse engineer code they announced Factory,
that's why I would also expect other cities now that the error that didn't allow them to be added has been solved
Clearly you didn't read the entirety of my quote.
I didn't say that HotA fell into disrepair. I said that there were some events that happened behind the scenes, we don't really know what happened, and HotA's progress was slowed down for several years. Work was still being done on it, albeit at a very very slow pace. This happened before Cove was even released, and why Cove took so long to be released.
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LordInsane
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posted May 22, 2019 04:30 AM |
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Lord_Immortal said:
The following days I'm thinking of conceiving two or three more factions: Cathedral - religious fanatics of East Jadame at war with the Palace.
Battlement - Formerly Kronverk, a joint faction of Vori Elves and snow creatures.
?????????? - possibly an West Jadame faction that includes Wererats, Dark Dwarves, Dark Elves and other creatures.
Is East Jadame based on Markon Phoenix' map? Given that he conjectured East Jadame, it is definitely an empty slate to place things in.
Part of me wants to suggest (or for that matter go back and alter my related, far less detailed, concept) Kontor for the Unnamed Possible West Jadame Faction, but it might be a tad obscure a word, and depending on where the faction concept if done goes not necessarily fitting to theme of the faction as a whole.
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Oddball13579
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posted May 22, 2019 05:37 PM |
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LordInsane said:
Lord_Immortal said:
The following days I'm thinking of conceiving two or three more factions: Cathedral - religious fanatics of East Jadame at war with the Palace.
Battlement - Formerly Kronverk, a joint faction of Vori Elves and snow creatures.
?????????? - possibly an West Jadame faction that includes Wererats, Dark Dwarves, Dark Elves and other creatures.
Is East Jadame based on Markon Phoenix' map? Given that he conjectured East Jadame, it is definitely an empty slate to place things in.
Part of me wants to suggest (or for that matter go back and alter my related, far less detailed, concept) Kontor for the Unnamed Possible West Jadame Faction, but it might be a tad obscure a word, and depending on where the faction concept if done goes not necessarily fitting to theme of the faction as a whole.
I believe you are referring to this map?
If so you're right. East Jadame looks like the perfect place for a religious fanatic faction.
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phoenix4ever
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posted May 22, 2019 06:16 PM |
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^^ That is a great map.
So all the current factions are located in Antagarich right?
Castle: Erathia
Rampart: AvLee
Tower: Bracada
Inferno: Eeofol
Necropolis: Deyja
Dungeon: Nighon
Stronghold: Krewlod
Fortress: Tatalia
What about Conflux, they come from the elemental planes, wherever that is, another dimension or above Enroth or?
HotA factions:
Cove: Regnan Archipelago, I guess
Factory: ???
If we look at the map above, I see potential for a lot more factions and yeah Vori should also be represented, we already have Gelu so...
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verriker
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posted May 22, 2019 06:26 PM |
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lol bear in mind that map is a fanfic, several aspects are made up or mere extrapolations lol
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