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Heroes Community > Library of Enlightenment > Thread: Create a hero
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phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


Legendary Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
posted May 15, 2019 08:14 AM
Edited by phoenix4ever at 08:08, 04 Jun 2019.

Create a hero

If you could create new heroes for Heroes 3, which class would they be and what skill(s) and specialty (and spell) would they start with?

These are my ideas:

Knight: Advanced Leadership. Specialty: pikemen. (This hero would replace Sir Mullich.)

Ranger: Starts with Leadership, Archery or Resistance depending on race + another skill. Specialty: centaurs.
Ranger: Starts with Leadership, Archery or Resistance depending on race + Artillery. Specialty: Ballista.

Alchemist: Starts with Scholar or Mysticism depending on race + another skill. Specialty: gremlins. Spell: ?

Heretic: Advanced Wisdom. Specialty: Fortune. Spell: Fortune.

Death Knight: Necromancy and Navigation. Specialty: Navigation. Spell: Shield. (This hero replaces Galthran, but would only be available on maps with water. On maps without water, both heroes are unavailable.)
Necromancer: Necromancy and ? Specialty: Sorrow. Spell: Sorrow (I have'nt tested if the Sorrow special actually works, so I don't know.)

Overlord: Starts with Offense, Tactics or Leadership depending on race + another skill. Specialty: medusas.
Warlock: Wisdom and ? Specialty: Sorrow. Spell: Sorrow. (I have'nt tested if the Sorrow special actually works, so I don't know.)
Warlock: Wisdom and First Aid. Specialty: First Aid. Spell: ? (Dungeon can't buy First Aid Tent though, so perhaps not that good, but the same goes for Castle and Rion...)

Battle Mage: Advanced Wisdom. Specialty: Bloodlust. Spell: Bloodlust.

Beastmaster/Witch: Armorer or Wisdom depending on Beastmaster or Witch and then Ballistics. Specialty: ? Spell: (if Witch) ?

Planeswalker: 2 skills, one of them perhaps Tactics or Offense. Specialty: air elementals.

Cove (HotA) heroes:
Captain/Navigator: ? or Wisdom depending on Captain or Navigator and then Ballistics. Specialty: ? Spell: (if Navigator) ?
Navigator: Wisdom Eagle Eye Specialty: Eagle Eye. Spell: ?

Edit: Added a few more heroes.

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phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


Legendary Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
posted May 16, 2019 07:13 AM

Aww come on guys, you gotta have some ideas.

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monere
monere


Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
posted May 16, 2019 08:16 AM

sorry mate, I'm clueless

I just can't come up with anything other than what already exists

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Hourglass
Hourglass


Famous Hero
posted May 16, 2019 12:54 PM

Cleric with Destroy Undead as specialty and starting spell. The effect would be noticeably more powerfull than the original spell.

Heretic with Curse as specialty and starting spell.

And this one I have kinda said earlier, but it fits here: Elementalist with any of the Summon elemental spell as starting spell. The specialty itself would be very minor (maybe 2 spell points cheaper cast or +1 creature summoned, it could be even fine without any "buffs") - the point of the specialty would be to have that spell right from the start.

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phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


Legendary Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
posted May 16, 2019 02:11 PM

I seem to remember we might have discussed this before Hourglass, but no problem.
Destroy Undead specialty would certainly fit a Cleric, but let's be honest it would be very situational.
Curse specialty is also something I wanted, for some reason this specialty "does'nt exist" or work though. (Same with Misfortune)
Yeah an Elementalist (Inteus?) starting with an elemental spell could be interesting and not too OP I think.

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heymlich
heymlich


Famous Hero
posted May 16, 2019 02:30 PM

I want Ignissa to be an Elementalist. I mean, just look at her. All about her says "Fire".

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monere
monere


Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
posted May 16, 2019 03:10 PM

what difference does it make if she's an elementalist instead of planeswalker? I'm asking seriously, because I don't think I have ever seen someone play other Conflux heroes as main besides the usual (monere, luna, and a few others)

Do people actually play.... kalt, for example, or ignissa, erdamon, and the alikes constantly (I mean, in official tournaments). Because for fun I could play these characters, too, just for the sake of trying them out. But, in official games I don't think I've ever seen someone actually choosing ignissa over mephala for example, or dessa, or whatever.

So again, why would making ignissa elementalist matter??

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phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


Legendary Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
posted May 16, 2019 03:54 PM

It's not only about what is good, (then there would be no reason to have anything but Logistics, Offense and Armorer specialists) but also what is fitting and what could be interesting.
I'm not a tournament or competitive player, but I play with all heroes, as I always pick random starting hero. Heroes like Kalt does'nt have to be incredibly bad if your buff Learning for example. Skill specialists are also only +3% per level in my game, so they are not that OP anymore.

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monere
monere


Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
posted May 16, 2019 06:34 PM

sorry mate, but there's no hero more fitting for ANY situation than...

1) Kyrre
2) Tazar
3) Crag Hack

in THAT order....

Also, I gave kalt as an example (although my opinion stands that he's a snow hero), but other heroes are worse (ignissa, lacus, fiur  for example), so you can refer to those if for some reason you like kal... I mean learning

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Zaio-Baio
Zaio-Baio


Promising
Famous Hero
posted May 16, 2019 06:43 PM

Might hero, with barbarian skill tree, that starts with basic logistics + basic earth magic and has slow as starting spell. Specialty logistics

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zombiewhacker
zombiewhacker


Adventuring Hero
posted May 16, 2019 06:57 PM

How about a Tower hero with an archery specialty skill? Seems like a no-brainer there.

And... uh... no way are you ever getting rid of Galthran, pal... not over his dead bodies.

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Roman2211
Roman2211


Adventuring Hero
posted May 16, 2019 07:14 PM

Specialty: pixies?

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monere
monere


Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
posted May 16, 2019 07:31 PM

zombiewhacker said:
How about a Tower hero with an archery specialty skill? Seems like a no-brainer there.


Spot-on! That's the only faction + hero specialty that I never understood why it doesn't exist

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phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


Legendary Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
posted May 16, 2019 07:44 PM
Edited by phoenix4ever at 19:49, 16 May 2019.

Zaio-Baio said:
Might hero, with barbarian skill tree, that starts with basic logistics + basic earth magic and has slow as starting spell. Specialty logistics

Wow looks like you just created the best possible hero in the game, I would main him, that's for sure. Minor problem, Barbarians does'nt start with spells, so hero would either start without Slow or be some other class.

And to you other guys, yes Archery special would really make sense for Tower.

Pixies are also a possibility, although they would get very low bonuses due to their low stats and they also die incredibly easy.

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heymlich
heymlich


Famous Hero
posted May 17, 2019 03:07 PM

monere said:
what difference does it make if she's an elementalist instead of planeswalker?


She would start with 3 spellpower and knowledge, and like all Elementalists with a magic school (Fire). That would be much more fitting. Also, if you have the spell, you can use her as Armageddon hero

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monere
monere


Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
posted May 17, 2019 04:28 PM

Ok, I see your point. But if she was elementalist it wouldn't make sense, because creature specialist heroes are always might heroes.

Besides, if she was elementalist and start with all those things that you've said, would you deliberately PICK her as main hero in official games?

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heymlich
heymlich


Famous Hero
posted May 17, 2019 04:52 PM
Edited by heymlich at 16:55, 17 May 2019.

monere said:
Ok, I see your point. But if she was elementalist it wouldn't make sense, because creature specialist heroes are always might heroes.


Vey. Theodorus. Aeris. Ingham.

Probably some campaign hero too, but I didn't play the campaign, so I don't know.

monere said:

Besides, if she was elementalist and start with all those things that you've said, would you deliberately PICK her as main hero in official games?


That never was the question.

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zmudziak22
zmudziak22


Supreme Hero
Heroes 3 Fan
posted May 17, 2019 05:06 PM

Torosar with Tactics and Archery, Archery Specialty(replace useless ballista specialty.

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monere
monere


Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
posted May 17, 2019 05:43 PM

heymlich said:
That never was the question.


That was exactly the question, but formulated differently (it was something like "do people actually play these heroes as main heroes in online tournaments")

Anyway, thanks for the info. I found out what I wanted to know

Also, yeah, I totally forgot about those heroes. I guess that's what happens when you play mephala, tazar, kyrre and monere all the time xD

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zombiewhacker
zombiewhacker


Adventuring Hero
posted May 17, 2019 06:36 PM

phoenix4ever said:

And to you other guys, yes Archery special would really make sense for Tower.


Suggestions as to who that Tower Archer hero would be? Plenty of useless heroes to choose from.

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