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Heroes Community > Library of Enlightenment > Thread: Is Heroes 3 really the best game in the series
Thread: Is Heroes 3 really the best game in the series This thread is 3 pages long: 1 2 3 · «PREV / NEXT»
zydar
zydar


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posted August 14, 2019 05:04 PM

All NWC HOMM are good,
H1 is great little game, with lot of potential
H2 is great improvement
H3 is best of the series
H4 is good, but lot of disappointment
The H5 is great in skill mechanic, but the art its not heroes spirit, the map exploration is boring
H6 & H7 i can't tell, i never play,

For me HOMM is combination of game play, mechanic, art, universe, story that give unique experience
since H5 i feel HOMM series lack of any HoMM experience
Maybe because, not developed by NWC or the new Dev/Pub failure to capture the spirit, the experience of HOMM

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Galaad
Galaad

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posted August 14, 2019 05:07 PM

I played both 6 and 7 and in my opinion they are awful.

I fully agree with your post.
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Oddball13579
Oddball13579


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posted August 15, 2019 09:34 PM

This opinion will probably be rather controversial but the only two things I really liked in Heroes 6 was the pop growth buildings, and the ability to convert towns and those pop growth buildings to your faction. I thought it was a neat little feature.
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zombiewhacker
zombiewhacker


Adventuring Hero
posted August 21, 2019 05:36 AM

I enjoy a game of HOMM4 every now and then. However, the fact that they neutered Town Portal and eliminated Dimension Door renders XL maps pretty much unplayable for me.

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Elvin
Elvin


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What if Elvin was female?
posted August 21, 2019 06:00 AM

@zombiewhacker

You could always play.. the other sizes?

@Oddball

Growth boosters have been a part of heroes long before that though. Town conversion looked cool but the way it was implemented killed an aspect of homm, that of mixing different troops. The whole game was made with that in mind of course.
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JollyJoker
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posted August 21, 2019 08:25 AM

You don't have to convert towns, though (in single player). However, in multiplayer the feature allows to include random towns and make sure you can use all troops on one hero.
Optional stuff can't be used against a game - it's optional, after all.

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Doomforge
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posted August 21, 2019 08:47 AM

This is a tricky question, people would have to remove their nostalgia glasses first.

HoMM5 is superior in many aspects to HoMM3, to be honest.
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Salamandre
Salamandre


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posted August 21, 2019 10:01 AM

You first, given 4/5 of your posts are in the H3 forums.

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Elvin
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What if Elvin was female?
posted August 21, 2019 10:58 AM

That only reinforces his opinion
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Galaad
Galaad

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posted August 21, 2019 11:46 AM
Edited by Galaad at 11:49, 21 Aug 2019.

Doomforge said:
HoMM5 is superior in many aspects to HoMM3, to be honest.


To be honest this goes both ways.
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Doomforge
Doomforge


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posted August 21, 2019 01:17 PM

Salamandre said:
You first, given 4/5 of your posts are in the H3 forums.


well I'm doing a re-play from H1 all the way to H7. Since Homm3 has ungodly amounts of content, I'm still stuck there. But the end is at hand, it just takes a little bit of focus haha. I'll be making a grand topic about the HoMM3 adventure eventually - with Elvin as guest star since we played through everything together and compared our scores
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Hourglass
Hourglass


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posted August 21, 2019 08:10 PM

Doomforge said:
This is a tricky question, people would have to remove their nostalgia glasses first.

HoMM5 is superior in many aspects to HoMM3, to be honest.


Using the nostalgia card in this debate is something that one could use and get away in 2010, when tote was only few years old and when homm3 was over 10 years old game.

However, nowadays it's been 12 years since the release of the last expansion of homm5. Even kids who played it as their first Homm game are likely to be all adults at this point. If homm3 is the old gramps of RPG gaming, homm5 is a middle-aged man finding his hair slowly turning more grey each passing day.
  If a bunch of people are still playing a game that is over 20 years old on a monthly, weekly or even daily basis, I wouldn't describe it as nostalgia. I like playing tetris with my phone, but nobody that I know has never questioned my liking towards the game, and said that I should play Candy Crush instead.

Homm3 and homm5 are both great games, easily worth 5/5 status. If only homm5 used 2D map movement and 3D battles, it would be a much better game, as the 3D map doesn't really add anything to the game.

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Oddball13579
Oddball13579


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posted August 21, 2019 08:13 PM
Edited by Oddball13579 at 20:14, 21 Aug 2019.

Elvin said:
Growth boosters have been a part of heroes long before that though.
Not in the same capacity though. In the previous games you had dwellings, where you could buy troops from. In 6 they introduced the growth boosters, which just increased all town creature growth. And removed dwellings

So I mean kinda the same thing, but different.
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OhforfSake
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posted August 22, 2019 03:50 PM

Doomforge said:
I'll be making a grand topic about the HoMM3 adventure eventually - with Elvin as guest star since we played through everything together and compared our scores


That sounds awesome DF!

Btw. I know this isn't the first time you have done something like this, how many games have gone through/completed by now anyway?
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Zaio-Baio
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posted August 22, 2019 08:31 PM

I think H5 Tote > H3 Complete for multiplayer games.

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Doomforge
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posted August 22, 2019 09:31 PM

OhforfSake said:
Doomforge said:
I'll be making a grand topic about the HoMM3 adventure eventually - with Elvin as guest star since we played through everything together and compared our scores


That sounds awesome DF!

Btw. I know this isn't the first time you have done something like this, how many games have gone through/completed by now anyway?


I'm actually keeping an excel spreadsheet regarding all games I play. I have tiers (green for "just beat the game", blue for completion - usually meaning highest difficulty & all extra content cleared ie. sidequests, finally purple for mastering the game which may include things like completing all achievements on steam). It's pretty fun. I'm not going for "purple tier" for every game where it's possible, but the games I truly love are "meant to be purpled". HoMM 2, 3 and 5 will most likely all end up purple. HoMM 1, 6 and 7 will probably end up green (actually HoMM1 already did).

We'll see about HoMM 4

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Oddball13579
Oddball13579


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posted August 22, 2019 11:18 PM

Damn Doom that is really friggin impressive.

I kinda want to do something like that, but I have so many games it would just be impossible

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OhforfSake
OhforfSake


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posted August 26, 2019 10:56 PM

Oddball13579 said:
I kinda want to do something like that, but I have so many games it would just be impossible



I know what you mean. I have tried counting all the games I have played, and it totaled some 150 games from what I could remember, and I have probably forgot many more, but I decided against adding anything I couldn't remember anyway, and that is also despite I more or less stopped playing new games after 2004 with very few exceptions. One such example would be DDO which many of us on this forum played together.

Anyway that was also why I asked DF about the number of games he had played and perhaps was going to play, to compare, but sadly he didn't reply to that part of my post, perhaps later Doom?
Going by DF's system I would definitely go green on a huge majority  of those games, which is also partly because many are somewhat small dos games from the late 80's to early 90's and early to mid 90's win 3.1 games. Some I would go purple on, but those are the games I am already considering myself good at, such as Diablo II.
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Drakon-Deus
Drakon-Deus


Legendary Hero
posted August 28, 2019 09:26 AM

What makes a game the best, that's the real question. But it is clear that H3 is one of the most loved in the series. Whether or not that makes it the best is a matter of opinion, that is all.

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gatecrasher
gatecrasher


Famous Hero
posted August 28, 2019 11:32 AM

HoMM 5-7 are out of question for me.
For this type of game, strategy with a map view, 2D designs with a fixed point of view is ideal.

The graphics style of Homm 5-7 looks busy, noisy, confusing, convoluted, unfocused and gets in my way. Most of the units look unbearably detailed and ugly.


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