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Heroes Community > Other Games Exist Too > Thread: Slitherine hint at making a new Master Of Magic
Thread: Slitherine hint at making a new Master Of Magic
Gandalf196
Gandalf196


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posted August 05, 2019 08:56 PM

Slitherine hint at making a new Master Of Magic

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2019/08/05/slitherine-hint-at-making-a-new-master-of-magic/?fbclid=IwAR0wS-MAA-dRvD3w_PtWbrIcdHMsJ4MxLL22rtihT-lhsycooRSGjZMk8FM
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Blake00
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posted August 18, 2019 11:53 AM

Gandalf196 said:
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2019/08/05/slitherine-hint-at-making-a-new-master-of-magic/?fbclid=IwAR0wS-MAA-dRvD3w_PtWbrIcdHMsJ4MxLL22rtihT-lhsycooRSGjZMk8FM


Ahh yup, I posted about this in my Master of Magic remake thread here:
http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=45776

Am super excited about this!!!
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Neraus
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posted August 19, 2019 01:19 PM

I can't wait, I always wanted a remake, I loved wreaking havoc with my paladins turned to death knights led by demon lords while playing as Rjak. Somehow I never wanted to play anything outside death magic, it was just too cool.
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Blake00
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posted August 24, 2019 10:59 AM

Neraus said:
I can't wait, I always wanted a remake, I loved wreaking havoc with my paladins turned to death knights led by demon lords while playing as Rjak. Somehow I never wanted to play anything outside death magic, it was just too cool.


Ooooh how did you turn the Paladin's into Death Knights?

That's what I loved about MoM.. there's nearly an infinite amount of ways to play the game haha.

Most fans I've talked to so far appear to be mostly wanting MoM with a fresh coat of paint and don't want the wheel reinvented. Some have made some crazy suggestions but generally everything people come up with has already been done in one of the MoM style spin off games (eg Age of Wonders, Warlock, Endless Legend, Sorcerer/Elemental/FE, Worlds of Magic/PQ, Eador, Dominions etc) so such a change would make it feel more like them than a MoM sequel. So they need to update it but also be careful that they don't turn it into something else that has already been done and quite possibly done better.

A few people have joined up and posted their lack of faith in the Slitherine forums under their announcement and they were shot down pretty quick by fans of Slitherines other games, so their customer loyalty is a promising sign at least.

I've never played Fantasy General but apparently they're doing a pretty good job with it. I looked at some of the other games under their name and found some interesting ones..

Polaris appears to be a Master of Orion style game:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/418250/Polaris_Sector/

Pandora appears to be a Alpha Centuari, Civ Beyond Earth / AoW Planetfall sort of game:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/287580/Pandora_First_Contact/

They don't rate highly on steam but they look okay and many of the reviews (even the bad ones) all seem to talk about how hardcore the AI is so that's promising. Yeah they don't look like amazing genre changing games but they actually give me some comfort as it shows they have years of experience with 4x PC strategy gaming. Hopefully they take the good stuff from these stepping stone games and learn from the bad stuff people didn't like and put them to good use with their MoM project. Although it looks like different developers worked on those games and Slitherine just published them, so I wonder who they will put on MoM.

PS is it just me or is Pandora using the same world engine as Warlock? That is so darn similar lol.
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Neraus
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posted August 24, 2019 12:35 PM

I figuratively turned them into death knights
Although, IIRC you could indeed turn them undead, I believe by either raising the dead on a stack or there was even an enchantment for it. That's why I loved it, the magic felt so fleshed out and there were so many things to do (and so much roleplaying potential)

And that was my favourite thing to do, take the holy knights, make them serve the armies of the dead, and accompany them with daemons and wights.

I also loved to stall the game to cast the spell of domination, just because I could.
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Blake00
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posted January 29, 2020 12:02 PM

Forgot to say that as well as posting other peoples wish lists & suggestions I of course also gave them a copy of my own personal wish list below:

• BIG ONE - More than 4 enemy players. Implode's MoM HD Multiplayer Remake allowed EVERY wizard in one game for super 14 player games which would have bee EPIC and so much fun had he finished the project.
• Larger maps (Insectiside fan patch added huge map size to the original)
• Limited Spying (most fantasy rpgs have thieves/rogues so it fits and stealing spells would be fun)
• Time limit and bigger cost on time stop spell (if you're planning on having that annoying spell again)
• Demand or give cities in Diplomacy (most 4x games have this now and I like using it to play god/peacekeep and save bullied Civs and minor factions from deaths door)
• Expand Grey Neutral Faction into lots of minor factions with identities and race affiliations (eg a minor Elven race with a minor elf wizard that likes Elven main civs and makes trouble for others.. this is another thing done in modern 4x fantasy and space games)
• More worlds and/or an underground world (although this has already been done before in AoW, HoMM & Warlock series)
• More ocean content eg HoMM series filled oceans with shipwreck lairs and treasures (even Morrowind had underwater caves filled with creatures and treasure so this is not new to fantasy games). You could even have a Merfolk faction with cities in the ocean. The fun Fantasy and Midgard scenarios for Civilization 2 Test of Time had a good underwater Merfolk faction with lots of sea based units/creatures.
• Not essential but some cool weather effects would be a fun immersion factor (especially as you can tie spells into them for gameplay events such as huge storms and earthquakes etc). The Official Playstation remake of Master of Magic has clouds rolling over and some cool weather effects from spells. The new Civ6 addon Gathering Storm is another good example of world changing weather effects.
• Talk to Seravy, he's da man on all things MoM and the creator of the super popular MoM overhaul mod Caster of Magic
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