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Thread: The HotA Factory thread
phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


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posted November 02, 2019 07:04 PM
Edited by phoenix4ever at 21:04, 05 Nov 2019.

The HotA Factory thread

Hi guys
In just 2 months Factory might be here and this topic is meant for sharing what (little) we know about Factory so far:

Alignment: Neutral
Terrain: New Wasteland terrain (Possibly 25% movement penalty like Rough terrain.)
Mage Guild: Level 5 (No Library.)
Spell school affinity: (Air/Earth/Fire/Water) ? (Possibly Fire?, which I hope.)
Resource Silo: ?
War Machine: ? (I assume Ballista or Ammo Cart or perhaps a brand new one.)
Shipyard: ? (Does'nt look like it from the town screen.)
Artifact Merchant: ?
Special buildings: ?
Grail: ? (+5000 gold, +50% creature growth and ?.)
Might hero class: ? (Perhaps Warlord, Maverick or Marshal.)
Magic hero class: Artificer (I believe Agar from Heroes 1 & 2 is one of them.)
Level 1 creatures: Halfling/Halfling Bomber
Level 2 creatures: ?/?
Level 3 creatures: ?/? (There are female Mechanics, they could possibly be level 3.)
Level 4 creatures: ?/?
Level 5 creatures: ?/?
Level 6 creatures: Gunslinger/Bounty Hunter
Level 7 creatures: ?/? (Possibly Dragon Golems?)
Speed of slowest creature: ?
Speed of fastest creature: ?

If you know any of the above please enlighten us. (That also counts for official HotA members. )

I can't wait for the new town and terrain.  

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Drakon-Deus
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posted November 03, 2019 06:03 AM

phoenix4ever said:


I can't wait for the new town and terrain.



Ditto. I love Cove and I believe Factory will be awesome too.
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Opera
Opera


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posted November 03, 2019 10:42 AM

Mechanic will be probably 3 lvl unit

Also wastes will gona heave some movment penalty (25 % )

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Gandalf196
Gandalf196


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posted November 03, 2019 02:22 PM

phoenix4ever said:
Hi guys
In just 2 months Factory might be here...  




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gatecrasher
gatecrasher


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posted November 03, 2019 04:51 PM

Agar will be one of the heroes as you can read on the FB page.

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phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


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posted November 03, 2019 05:43 PM
Edited by phoenix4ever at 17:44, 03 Nov 2019.

Gandalf196 said:




Hence the "might"...
But let us try to be optimistic, even though news have been sparse lately.

Also updated first post.

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Opera
Opera


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posted November 03, 2019 06:32 PM

Yeah and i think Kastor will show up so thats really nice Also about other units i think will be mechanical units i wonna see on 7 lvl "Mech" and some creatures mixed with biotechnology like in Dungeon cause we see Agar and another warlock. Maybe but how dont know its hard to say cause its not informations at all

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Gandalf196
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posted November 03, 2019 06:48 PM

My take on the upcoming magic class and the unique building (sorry for my poor paint skills )


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Doomforge
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posted November 03, 2019 06:53 PM
Edited by Doomforge at 18:53, 03 Nov 2019.

2 Logs 1 Tactics? 8 mysticism 6 eagle eye? That would make this a dead class, so hopefully not

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phoenix4ever
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posted November 04, 2019 03:58 PM
Edited by phoenix4ever at 15:59, 04 Nov 2019.

Doomforge said:
2 Logs 1 Tactics?

That is actually the same as Wizards, Warlocks and Elementalists. Witches are not much better at 3 Logs 1 Tactics.

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Doomforge
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posted November 04, 2019 04:02 PM
Edited by Doomforge at 16:02, 04 Nov 2019.

phoenix4ever said:
That is actually the same as Wizards, Warlocks and Elementalists. Witches are not much better at 3 Logs 1 Tactics.


Which is why nobody wants to pick them - with some exceptions ie. pre-HotA Luna for Firewall abuse.

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Hourglass
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posted November 04, 2019 07:59 PM

Nice work Phoenix, I think the Factory deserves it's on Topic as well. Let me go through some of you points:

phoenix4ever said:

Terrain: New Wasteland terrain (Possibly 25% movement penalty, like Rough terrain.)


IMO the Wastelands seems pretty harsh enviroment, so I would rather put my money on 50% movement penalty, just like Sand.

phoenix4ever said:

Shipyard: ?


Simply by judging from the image and what we know about the Wastelands terrain; there will be no shipyard.

phoenix4ever said:

Grail: ?


I'm pretty sure that the Grail is the motor-like thing in the middle of the town screen, and it seems to provide 5000 gold at least, just like the other Grails.

phoenix4ever said:

Might hero class: ? - Perhaps Warlord, Maverick or Marshal
Magic hero class: Artificer (I believe Agar from Heroes 1 & 2 is one of them.)


Could be cool Phoenix, if you could find and put all the pictures of the released heroes here. Btw, we don't know anything about the specials the heroes may have, but in the interview Docent calls one of the heroes "Henrietta the Halfing" which could mean that Factory has a lvl 1 creature specialist.

phoenix4ever said:

Level 1 creatures: Halfling/Halfling Bomber
Level 2 creatures: ?/?
Level 3 creatures: ?/? (There are female Mechanics, they could possibly be level 3)
Level 4 creatures: ?/?
Level 5 creatures: ?/?
Level 6 creatures: Gunslinger/Bounty Hunter
Level 7 creatures: ?/? (Possibly Dragon Golems?)


One creature is lacking - the wind serpent like creature we see in the trailer, and which is very likely to be the inhabitant of the Serpenterium, which can also be seen in the trailer. Pretty hard to say which lvl creature it would be thou.

It seems quite possible that the lvl 7 creature is indeed some kind of mechanical thing, like the ultimate creation of the Factory. The Dragoon golem like creature seems the most obvious choice. As the Gunslingers have retalition shoot - before they're hit -, I belive that the Dragon golems will have some kind of first strike ability, just like they have in Homm4.

We also do know that the line up will have 3 humanoids, which are all released, and the rest of the creatures will be beasts and mechs. One thing nobody seems to talk about: the farm we can see in the middle of the town screen is most likely a creature dwelling, which would indicate that the some kind of Ox or horse or that kind of animal is part of the line up - if this is the case, I would see it as a tier 2 creature.


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NimoStar
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posted November 04, 2019 09:27 PM

This is the trailer, yes?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTSsek0wIEY

Not sure I feel right about the color of the Wastelands, no other H3 terrain is so oversaturated of color; they look mostly neutral and not so bright.

Also, i liked more the NWC dark concept for the new mechanical town, but well. Can't blame them for trying something different, and it seems they go more for steampunk than cyberpunbk, which at least, suits better.

(but in any case could have done a steampunk dark version anyways...)
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LordInsane
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posted November 04, 2019 11:00 PM
Edited by LordInsane at 23:00, 04 Nov 2019.

gatecrasher said:
Agar will be one of the heroes as you can read on the FB page.

Peculiar. You meet him in Might and Magic 6, as a hostile lich, at around the time of the Restoration Wars, over in Enroth. Then again, you also meet Ethric as a hostile lich that has been a lich for quite some time and has stuck around in a tomb for long enough people aren't certain he's still 'alive' in MM6, so that game already has ended up with inconsistencies just from the official Heroes 3 expansions.

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Doomforge
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posted November 05, 2019 08:59 AM

I believe there's also a troop hoarding mechanic promised that's supposed to work like necromancy or demon farming.
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bloodsucker
bloodsucker


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posted November 05, 2019 01:11 PM

Doomforge said:
I believe there's also a troop hoarding mechanic promised that's supposed to work like necromancy or demon farming.

In that case the urge to solve the army strength overflow isn't just mine.
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Opera
Opera


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posted November 05, 2019 08:06 PM



phoenix4ever said:

Terrain: New Wasteland terrain (Possibly 25% movement penalty, like Rough terrain.)


IMO the Wastelands seems pretty harsh enviroment, so I would rather put my money on 50% movement penalty, just like Sand.

Than You will lose money becouse Docent long time ago said that on vk forum also Wastes is verry similar to rough basicly



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verriker
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posted November 05, 2019 10:01 PM

LordInsane said:
Peculiar. You meet him in Might and Magic 6, as a hostile lich, at around the time of the Restoration Wars, over in Enroth. Then again, you also meet Ethric as a hostile lich that has been a lich for quite some time and has stuck around in a tomb for long enough people aren't certain he's still 'alive' in MM6, so that game already has ended up with inconsistencies just from the official Heroes 3 expansions.


bear in mind Shadow of Death was an unreliable narrative, it was told by Yog who did not have the full perspective lol

I do not think that Jabarkas was the brother of Ethric either or that Sandro went around raping or boning Jabarkas's daughter in the hills of Erathia when he actually was fighting the war in Enroth,
that is clearly a hit piece of Yog and the biased fake news Bracadan media, the enemy of the undead people the fake news cheers lol
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