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FirePaladin
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posted May 02, 2020 07:57 PM
Edited by FirePaladin at 19:59, 02 May 2020.

Hourglass said:
At least for now, you were right about Necromancers, but very interresting to see that the second most liked magic class is actually Clerics.


Clerics were very bad at learning a certain skill, I remember. Lemme check heroesthelazy first.

Edit: They are just somewhere a little under-average...
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Rimgrabber
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posted May 03, 2020 02:12 AM
Edited by Rimgrabber at 02:14, 03 May 2020.

Clerics being the #2 magic hero doesn't surprise me at all tbh. Their chance to get diplomacy is extremely high, and their chance to get offense and logistics is actually pretty high too (as high as their chance to get air or water magic). They also have 2 really nice heroes, Adela with her bless specialty + starting with diplomacy and Loynis with his prayer specialty (sadly mitigated by starting with learning). Caitlin is also a good starting hero on impossible thanks to her gold specialty, as is Cuthbert to a lesser extent who starts with estates. Plus who is their right mind wouldn't agree that Rion is a sexy beast. Overall, Necromancers(duh) and Battlemages are probably the only better magic classes, but given that Stronghold is possibly the least popular faction and the fact that they have Barbarians overshadowing them (even tho Battlemages have Dessa and Gundula) whereas Knights are regarded as one of the worst might classes with generally mediocre specializations (Sir Mullich aside) it makes sense Clerics are rated pretty highly. That said even though I voted for Death Knights as the best, Beastmasters are my favorite for no particular reason.
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posted May 03, 2020 10:45 AM
Edited by bloodsucker at 10:46, 03 May 2020.

I voted Battle Mage for best magic class. Why? It's a simple question of numbers, 1 Logistics and 1 Offense specialists plus (for me) the most useful resource specialist and the best Haste specialist. In my opinion, Battle Mages completely overshadow Barbarians by the sheer number of useful specialties.
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Hourglass
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posted May 03, 2020 11:55 AM

Now Clerics are dropped a bit, currently at shared 8th position. Sure Clerics have their strong sides, and Diplomacy is a good selling point. But why I was surprised at first, is that Clerics IMO are lacking iconic heroes. Sure they got a prayer speacialis Loynis, and to some extend Adela, but that's kinda it. Most other magic classes have more memorable heroes.

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FirePaladin
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posted May 03, 2020 12:07 PM

Hourglass said:
Now Clerics are dropped a bit, currently at shared 8th position. Sure Clerics have their strong sides, and Diplomacy is a good selling point. But why I was surprised at first, is that Clerics IMO are lacking iconic heroes. Sure they got a prayer speacialis Loynis, and to some extend Adela, but that's kinda it. Most other magic classes have more memorable heroes.


Ironic how some guys on reddit are suckers and you're cool with daily polls.

Yeah, I agree with you. They're average at getting skills (but as Rimgrabber said, they have high chances for certain good skills) and several heroes have pretty good specialties.
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Hourglass
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posted May 03, 2020 10:26 PM
Edited by Hourglass at 22:27, 03 May 2020.

FirePaladin said:

Ironic how some guys on reddit are suckers and you're cool with daily polls.



Oh, now I understand what this line was about. But yeah, maybe weekly polls are better, so people don't lose their interest in them so quickly.
Never understood the atitutude btw, where a platform is mostly dead or atleast very quiet, and then someone makes posts and creates some content, and there are people that feel offended about it.

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FirePaladin
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posted May 03, 2020 10:37 PM

Hourglass said:
FirePaladin said:

Ironic how some guys on reddit are suckers and you're cool with daily polls.



Oh, now I understand what this line was about. But yeah, maybe weekly polls are better, so people don't lose their interest in them so quickly.
Never understood the atitutude btw, where a platform is mostly dead or atleast very quiet, and then someone makes posts and creates some content, and there are people that feel offended about it.


Me either. There was even some guy who was "offended" by my polls and half of his replies on other communities are about... self pleasure.

Anyway, all this thing got me a good idea: I should make a questionnaire with more polls at a time, once per week. Still wondering why I didn't think of that from the start.
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Phoenix4ever
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posted May 03, 2020 10:59 PM
Edited by Phoenix4ever at 23:01, 03 May 2020.

I like polls, I made many here on HC.
Just ask how many people here were annoyed by them. Well I hope they were'nt, but found them fun/interesting just as I did.

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FirePaladin
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posted May 03, 2020 11:12 PM
Edited by FirePaladin at 23:12, 03 May 2020.

Phoenix4ever said:
I like polls, I made many here on HC.
Just ask how many people here were annoyed by them. Well I hope they were'nt, but found them fun/interesting just as I did.


Links?

Btw, how many people were annoyed by the polls?
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Phoenix4ever
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posted May 03, 2020 11:15 PM
Edited by Phoenix4ever at 23:17, 03 May 2020.

I made a lot of polls honestly, so kinda hard linking to them all, but you can check Library of Enlightenment and Heroes 3.5 - WoG and Beyond and search for topics made by me.
I made a lot of best of/worst of polls.

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FirePaladin
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posted May 03, 2020 11:16 PM
Edited by FirePaladin at 23:21, 03 May 2020.

Phoenix4ever said:
I made a lot of polls honestly, so kinda hard linking to them all, but you can check Library of Enlightenment and Heroes 3.5 WoG and beyond and search for topics made by me.
I made a lot of best of/worst of polls.


There were even some polls about fav iteration of a creature, but dunno if they were yours. I'll just google them (your polls, I mean), pretty sure it ain't hard.

Edit: Google didn't find anything relevant, gonna use the forum search.

Edit 2: Found one. Angel Wings are better than Tome of Air?

Edit 3:
Ok, there are plenty of polls in your threads section. Thanks for directions!
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Phoenix4ever
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posted May 03, 2020 11:23 PM

No problem, maybe you can use some for inspiration and of course remember to vote in them as well.

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FirePaladin
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posted May 03, 2020 11:25 PM

Phoenix4ever said:
No problem, maybe you can use some for inspiration and of course remember to vote in them as well.


I'm voting right now, but skipped Iona/Thane one 'cus I really dunno what to vote there. I'd rather have a Gremlin hero, tbh.
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Phoenix4ever
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posted May 03, 2020 11:30 PM

Yeah I miss some creature specialists too. Not sure if a gremlin specialist would be OP though, gremlin amount would have to be decreased at least.

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FirePaladin
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posted May 03, 2020 11:33 PM
Edited by FirePaladin at 00:43, 04 May 2020.

Phoenix4ever said:
Yeah I miss some creature specialists too. Not sure if a gremlin specialist would be OP though, gremlin amount would have to be decreased at least.


Could be interesting to be able to test sometime, somehow... I mean, early Tower battles are somewhat of a struggle until you get Nagas (upgrade or not) on 2nd week, putting gargoyles in front of Master Gremlins and ending the battle right before the gremlins get hit and halved.

Edit: Oh well, poor Galthran, reminds me of one of my comments from reddit here: Remember
Titan5880, btw, is me.

Edit 2: Nice suggestions there, Rimgrabber.
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Phoenix4ever
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posted May 03, 2020 11:38 PM

But it can't be worse than Galthran, not only does he get the biggest attack and defense bonus of all creature specialists, but he also makes skeletons through Necromancy.
Worst bonus is probably Lacus/Kalt.

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Rimgrabber
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posted May 04, 2020 12:33 AM
Edited by Rimgrabber at 00:34, 04 May 2020.

Conflux heroes in general are incredibly sad and I'm still waiting with bated breath for HoTA team to fix them. Give Fiur/Erdamon/Lacus/Pasis proper creature specs and let Ignissa/Thunar/Monere/Kalt spec in ballista, estates, interference(offense or logistics would be too OP imo, plus he's a magic elemental so interference makes more sense anyway), and learning respectively. Also give Gelare a spec in an actual water spell. Probably bless since cure spec is completely worthless. Or maybe they could change the cure spec so that it allows resurrection if it heals enough. OR spec in dispel where positive effects aren't dispelled from your creatures and negative ones are dispelled from enemy creatures. Now that I think about it there are lots of ways to make Gelare a unique and fun to use hero. Grindan can probably stay as he is a slow specialist would be too overpowered.
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bloodsucker
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posted May 04, 2020 06:45 AM

Generally Conflux Magic Heroes are OK, specially Gelare and Grindan, even if they lack an OP specialist like Intelligence (oh, wait! Is that still overpowered?), Sorcery or Prayer, are the might heroes that suck.
So, my suggestions would be: level 1 and 2 specialists, Interference and Ballista or Archery. Besides that maybe removing both level 6 and gave everyone "normal" specialties that increase with leveling-up.  
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Rimgrabber
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posted May 16, 2020 12:18 AM

Eeeehhhhh some of them are okay. I don't really have an issue with Grindan, but Gelare being a gold specialist means that there's no proper water specializing hero since Ciele specs in magic arrow which isn't really a water spell. Also Inteus's specialty is basically useless for conflux since only the sprites(early game units) and magma elementals(always bad units) get any use out of it. Luna and Aenein are fine, Brissa and the other dwarf whose name I forget are okay, although I'd prefer if they had unique specs like the other magic heroes do.
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Rimgrabber
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posted June 09, 2020 09:23 PM

This was really fun. Do you have any more?
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