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Blizzardboy
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posted July 31, 2020 02:24 AM

More than 50% of people in survey say Arabic numerals shouldn't be taught in school

A post-racial, colorblind society.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/teaching-arabic-numerals/

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posted July 31, 2020 02:26 AM

or

America is racist.
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posted July 31, 2020 02:32 AM
Edited by bloodsucker at 02:38, 31 Jul 2020.

So:
* Should Latin numbers be thought in school?
* Should numbers be thought?
* Should there be schools?

America (and the world) is ignorant.

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artu
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posted July 31, 2020 05:42 AM

Lol, this is like that thing where the chemical name of water scared people.
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posted July 31, 2020 08:13 AM

Yeah if anything it shows the education level.
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posted July 31, 2020 08:20 AM
Edited by blob2 at 08:37, 31 Jul 2020.

As far as polls can be treated seriously...

Yep, this is coming from a country in which people think Europe is a country so I wouldn't take it as an account for racism but rater its societies stupidity.

BTW Blizzardboy, isn't this a wrong board for this kind of things? I mean, I know we already have "politics" almost entirely dominating this section, but I thought this place was originally for things like movies, hobbies etc...

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posted July 31, 2020 09:46 AM

The so called 'Arabic numbers' actually originate from India, they were just introduced to Europe by the Arabs, who have their very own and different system to denote numerals.

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posted July 31, 2020 10:56 AM

blob2 said:
I know we already have "politics" almost entirely dominating this section, but I thought this place was originally for things like movies, hobbies etc...
Nah, we have Trumpism dominating this place. The moment Biden wins the elections it will go back to normal levels, like everything else.
Butt this thread should be in the Wastelands, there is no way for this to be taken seriously.
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posted July 31, 2020 11:23 AM

Yeah, people are used to them being just numbers, calling them arabic numerals seem to them like adding a foreign element that has no place. They'd probably have the same reaction to roman numbers, or japanese numbers.
If you asked them to make learning the metric system mandatory in school they'd react the same, some agreeing because it's useful and added value to the curriculum and the majority disagreeing because "we don't take kindly to them Yuropian fancy stuff here pardner"

I for one am happy the Americans are this way, for many of them Sicily is an independent country, thus the hopes of eventually finding support from them are higher than with any other countries.
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posted July 31, 2020 11:30 AM

Neraus said:
I for one am happy the Americans are this way, for many of them Sicily is an independent country, thus the hopes of eventually finding support from them are higher than with any other countries.


It's just called arrogance or megalomania. They feel like they are the "top of the world" so why would they learn about some "stoopid Yuropian countries"...

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posted July 31, 2020 11:41 AM

Dying to hear how all you talking snow about americans, in another of blizz's bs threads, can think there'd be any pertinent reason for an american, outside of a voluntary elective course regarding foreign language, to learn anything but an english alphabet in an english-speaking country...

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posted July 31, 2020 11:55 AM
Edited by blob2 at 12:12, 31 Jul 2020.

fred79 said:
Dying to hear how all you talking snow about americans, in another of blizz's bs threads, can think there'd be any pertinent reason for an american, outside of a voluntary elective course regarding foreign language, to learn anything but an english alphabet in an english-speaking country...


Oh don't give me that snow fred, how much can you tell me about Poland? And you should know at least some basic info cus the "big war" in my country is one of the reasons why your country is wealthy now in the first place. Immigrants which were specialists in many areas, for example entrepreneurs of Jewish decent which moved to USA cus they were escaping the genocides. Or the military oriented industry, cus war effort, which jumpstarted the golden 50s etc.

This is why I call Americans megalomaniacs and ignorants. Their only interest lies at the tip of their nose. Why we learn things in school even if those are mostly useless? To broaden our views, learn something about not only our backyard but rest of the world. To not look stupid when someone asks us about some basic stuff? We didn't have Internets before, now information is closer then ever, yet many Americans still see the rest of the world as some sort of boonies and can even f*cking tell if Europe is a country or not.

Here, have an old classic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mWtWz_aGyk.

Yes, we also have folk here who's worldviews are limited to going to church on Sunday and drink vodka as a pastime, but what I see in Americans is plain ignorance as I talked with a few and heard stories of my friends who traveled there. It's always "me me me" with Americans.

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posted July 31, 2020 12:14 PM

fred79 said:
Dying to hear how all you talking snow about americans, in another of blizz's bs threads, can think there'd be any pertinent reason for an american, outside of a voluntary elective course regarding foreign language, to learn anything but an english alphabet in an english-speaking country...
To tell Jesus what to do.*

* "Jesus is just the name of the guy that mowns my garden."
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posted July 31, 2020 12:23 PM

blob2 said:
Oh don't give me that snow fred, how much can you tell me about Poland? It's always "me me me" with Americans.


You don't hear me talking snow about other countries and their people, do you? Know why that is? It's because it's rude, for one. But mostly, it's because i'm focused on the country i live in; that people from all over the world, including all of YOUR countries, migrated to. Guess things weren't so good where you all live, so people moved here.

I can tell you part of my bloodline is polish; that's what i can tell you. And german, as well as other nationalities. Most americans are mixes between all the countries that talk snow about them now.

It's always "you you you americans" with people outside the states.

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posted July 31, 2020 12:29 PM

Oh, great, another bait thread by blizz.

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posted July 31, 2020 12:42 PM
Edited by blob2 at 12:47, 31 Jul 2020.

fred79 said:
You don't hear me talking snow about other countries and their people, do you? Know why that is? It's because it's rude, for one. But mostly, it's because i'm focused on the country i live in; that people from all over the world, including all of YOUR countries, migrated to. Guess things weren't so good where you all live, so people moved here.


That I cannot confirm, I don't track your every post. Your focused on the country you live in, like everyone does. But that doesn't justify anyone of being ignorant.

And speaking of Poland in such a manner is pretty rude in itself. Our country was doing pretty well in 1920s despite various wars throughout the ages. But then came some circle-jerk organization that wanted to annihilate us, another wave swept in after it and left the country in ruins not only economically but morally (it brought out the worst in polish people). No wonder people didn't want to "live here" and still don't in some cases (because we still feel the aftermath of it all, divisions in our society and all, "communist past" etc). Besides I can just turn the cat around and tell you the same thing: "seems your country isn't doing so well if people want to leave it and are rioting 2+ months straight?#blm anyone?".

fred79 said:
I can tell you part of my bloodline is polish; that's what i can tell you. And german, as well as other nationalities. Most americans are mixes between all the countries that talk snow about them now.


Well, I have German blood. Does it change anything? If your part of so many cultures that only means you should be more aware of them.

fred79 said:
It's always "you you you americans" with people outside the states.


Maybe because you give us reasons to? Many things that your country does impacts my life. We now have #blm s*it in Europe, we now have immigration crisis, we now are caught between Russia-USA rivalry and we need to jump like idiots between both etc (not to mention European countries which make deals behind our backs, Nord stream anyone?). Our soldiers died in your wars, even if it is a small number.


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posted July 31, 2020 12:45 PM

Well, he got a point with the thread tho.
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posted July 31, 2020 01:42 PM
Edited by Blizzardboy at 13:43, 31 Jul 2020.

A racist country of terrorists that doesn't want to use Arabic numerals cannot be trusted. I believe - for our own good - we should be invaded by a coalition and have a puppet government installed that can open up cultural centers around the country that will instill the local barbarian population with basic tenets of civilization, such as the ability to measure with the metric system, and heavy taxation on fast foods in order to fund the operations. Mandatory confiscation of firearms will also be necessary since the locals only end up hurting themselves with them anyway; to make an analogy, you can't trust a small child with a firecracker and it is simply reckless endangerment to do so. Mandatory Spanish and Arabic immersion headed by Mexican and Iraqi teachers would also be useful for people to go into fields such as business.
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posted July 31, 2020 01:55 PM

fred79 said:
It's always "you you you americans" with people outside the states.


Simple reason, current hegemon of the west, back in the day, it was always: "Look how they do that in Britain", "Look what France does", "Germans do it this way". Italian institutions were modeled after British parliamentarian tradition and French centralism. Not many cared enough about how Italians did things.

Then the war ended and the economic superpower left was the US, the US exported their media and culture to the world. So now it's much less about how the brits do things, or how the french do something, but, most excellence of the modern world comes from the US today, thus, the US are the current standard to reference.

With that comes criticism and making fun, it's just how we react to hegemons.

I guarantee you, if we still were the Roman Empire and the world was in a mexican stand-off with Rome, the US and China, I guarantee that everyone would be criticizing how we Roman citizens do things.

I mean, I get called a savage by a Canadian for liking horse meat. ME! A DESCENDANT OF GREEKS, ROMANS AND NORMANS (ok maybe a point can be made about the last one). WE BUILT CIVILIZATION, WE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO CALL OTHERS SAVAGES.
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posted July 31, 2020 02:17 PM
Edited by Ghost at 14:19, 31 Jul 2020.

Normal in America. In Finland you should study Finnish, English and Swedish. After this, the optional languages ​​are Finnish sign languages, Sámi, French, German, Russian, Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, Latin, Hungarian and Estonian. I don't wish a welcome Arabic language, so I agree with Americans, but I disagree with claim for a English alphabet, etc

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