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posted July 31, 2020 02:31 PM |
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bloodsucker said:
* Should there be schools?
No. Or maybe there should be, but only if they teach children things that actually help them later in life. 
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posted July 31, 2020 02:57 PM |
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Blizzardboy said:
A racist country of terrorists that doesn't want to use Arabic numerals cannot be trusted. I believe - for our own good - we should be invaded by a coalition and have a puppet government installed that can open up cultural centers around the country that will instill the local barbarian population with basic tenets of civilization, such as the ability to measure with the metric system, and heavy taxation on fast foods in order to fund the operations. Mandatory confiscation of firearms will also be necessary since the locals only end up hurting themselves with them anyway; to make an analogy, you can't trust a small child with a firecracker and it is simply reckless endangerment to do so. Mandatory Spanish and Arabic immersion headed by Mexican and Iraqi teachers would also be useful for people to go into fields such as business.
This comes from the guy that leave it in the open I'm a "full blown Marxist"...
Please, globalism is one thing, cultural annexation is another.
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posted July 31, 2020 05:12 PM |
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blob2 said:
fred79 said:
You don't hear me talking snow about other countries and their people, do you? Know why that is? It's because it's rude, for one. But mostly, it's because i'm focused on the country i live in; that people from all over the world, including all of YOUR countries, migrated to. Guess things weren't so good where you all live, so people moved here.
That I cannot confirm, I don't track your every post. Your focused on the country you live in, like everyone does. But that doesn't justify anyone of being ignorant.
And speaking of Poland in such a manner is pretty rude in itself. Our country was doing pretty well in 1920s despite various wars throughout the ages. But then came some circle-jerk organization that wanted to annihilate us, another wave swept in after it and left the country in ruins not only economically but morally (it brought out the worst in polish people). No wonder people didn't want to "live here" and still don't in some cases (because we still feel the aftermath of it all, divisions in our society and all, "communist past" etc). Besides I can just turn the cat around and tell you the same thing: "seems your country isn't doing so well if people want to leave it and are rioting 2+ months straight?#blm anyone?".
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I can tell you part of my bloodline is polish; that's what i can tell you. And german, as well as other nationalities. Most americans are mixes between all the countries that talk snow about them now.
Well, I have German blood. Does it change anything? If your part of so many cultures that only means you should be more aware of them.
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It's always "you you you americans" with people outside the states. 
Maybe because you give us reasons to? Many things that your country does impacts my life. We now have #blm s*it in Europe, we now have immigration crisis, we now are caught between Russia-USA rivalry and we need to jump like idiots between both etc (not to mention European countries which make deals behind our backs, Nord stream anyone?). Our soldiers died in your wars, even if it is a small number.
Literally every single thing you mentioned that makes you angry at the states, are all due to globalists. Their goal is to render every nation powerless over itself, so they can act as "world police". They have infiltrated our(and many other) government(s and countries, through organizations, buy-offs, mass media, entertainment; you name it) generations ago; they are deeply entrenched everywhere and are forever working on world domination. The blm movement was their plan; but FAR before that, immigration was their plan(they used slavery here in the states). They do everything they can to divide a nation from itself, until that nation is no more, but just another tool/stepping stone for them to use. The U.S. is one of the last nations that hasn't completely complied with their goal; which they've been destroying bit by bit. The division you see in the states now is their work; it isn't strictly the media behind this. This is something they've been preparing for decades, and is nearing completion. The U.S. doesn't have much longer; and that time drastically shortens, the more people play into their hands and get misled.
But it doesn't look like anyone's going to wake up. Even after it's too late, from the looks of things.
Tl;dr: The same subjugation, corruption, and control that has befallen all your countries, is now rampant in the U.S., and is nearing it's close. The people you are angry at here in the states, are NOT your enemy. Most of them just don't realize what's really going on, and why.
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posted July 31, 2020 05:14 PM |
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Blizzardboy said:
A racist country of terrorists that doesn't want to use Arabic numerals cannot be trusted. I believe - for our own good - we should be invaded by a coalition and have a puppet government installed that can open up cultural centers around the country that will instill the local barbarian population with basic tenets of civilization, such as the ability to measure with the metric system, and heavy taxation on fast foods in order to fund the operations. Mandatory confiscation of firearms will also be necessary since the locals only end up hurting themselves with them anyway; to make an analogy, you can't trust a small child with a firecracker and it is simply reckless endangerment to do so. Mandatory Spanish and Arabic immersion headed by Mexican and Iraqi teachers would also be useful for people to go into fields such as business.
Lol. Now i know for sure. I should've never taken you seriously, you scoundrel. 
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posted July 31, 2020 05:22 PM |
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@fred
You mean the New World Order?
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bloodsucker
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posted July 31, 2020 05:57 PM |
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fred79 said:
Literally every single thing you mentioned that makes you angry at the states, are all due to globalists.
Please, enlighten us: what is a globalist?
fred79 said:
Their goal is to render every nation powerless over itself, so they can act as "world police".
I would swear that was US goal by the time You invaded Kuwait...
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posted July 31, 2020 06:18 PM |
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Our role in the middle east was for multiple reasons, but for one main reason.
You can call the globalists anything you want; they're easier to see if you look at the ultra-rich. Look at who stands to benefit from what, and where and how lots of capitol is gained/funneled. Look at what entities do with their cash, and how it is gained. Most of the so-called charities contributed to are either for optics, misdirection, or for laundering/moving large sums. Money is changing hands; know who's doing it on a national and global scale. Find the who/what/when/why, and you can link it all. Once you get the pattern, you'll see it's prevalence, and come to understand not only the why, but the history of it, and it's future.
It's blatant, to those who look around them. The masses are being played for fools; and only the fools don't see this. Even the regular rich are nothing to these entities.
You want a place to start, look to see who profit from wars. Not just one side, either. Look for "neutrals". You won't always get a hit with that, but when you do, it's a big hit.
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posted July 31, 2020 06:25 PM |
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Vietnam and Thailand have benefited greatly from the US-China Trade War. That doesn't mean it was orchestrated by them. Most of the time, people find themselves in a lucky/advantageous situation. They see an opportunity and they capitalize on it.
Iraq has lots of oils fields and it sits nearby other countries with lots of oil fields. That is why unstable dictators are not tolerated in Iraq but they are tolerated in African countries that have little to offer. Not everything is a massive plot/conspiracy. The easiest explanation is usually the correct explanation.
There is no such thing as a "globalist". It's just another stage of advancement in human civilization as a result of improvements in technology that make it easier for people to move and communicate and do business. Traditional borders have less relevancy.
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posted July 31, 2020 07:08 PM |
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So Blizz is trolling, and I am once again disappointed with how the American school system funds our school systems. Giving the education system a fraction of a percentage of what we give to the military in all of its various forms (yes, including police) has lead to ignorance of history, mathematics and general language and science skills, which is especially compounded in poor areas where the local community can't give money and teachers are too poor to try and buy things for classrooms themselves and make up for the deficit.
Proper education of people could stop ignorant crap like the dihydrogen monoxide scare, people thinking "arabic" numbers are something special or strange, or that vaccines are bad for you and are being used to implant microchips in people to track them. By the way, Fred, that last one is definitely not real. The shadowy world order doesn't need microchips, the world population is already easy enough to track because of Google and cell phones. Just... just... It's so unnecessary.
Also, for reference Fred:
0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9
^"Arabic Numerals." Which have been coopted by European powers for being superior to Roman numerals in every conceivable way, and from Europe they have gone to every one of their colonies and territories. See, if you had been taught about world history beyond "the two big wars (specifically the second one)" and "communism was bad and we beat it," which is pretty much all American school systems teach of world history, you might know this. 
And before you go accusing me of being a humorless leftist trying to corrupt people into being sheeple under the heel of the shadowy World Order like you do of literally everyone who critiques anything you type... the only reason I knew this was because I had a world history teacher who went out of their way to teach what he could beyond the required curriculum. Things like the major powers of Central America before Spain landed there, North American nations that built coalitions and cities (The Sioux Nation, for example) before colonists came in and tried to erase that from history to justify Manifesting Destiny all over these "savage, untamed, uncivilized lands" (they had AGRICULTURE. They were growing CORN for hundreds of years before Europeans even found the 'new world.' That requires, or leads to, permanent settlements... permanent settlements large enough to understand trade and market ideas and to give away excess food to early colonists to keep them from starving. That, alone, should be enough to disprove the "wide, empty lands" notion but NOOOOOOO...)
He also taught European History beyond Columbus, the rotating rivalry of Portugal, Spain, France and England, the triangle trade, etc. Mostly it was anecdotes, like the story behind how Tarascone got its name, but it was still more than "Plague, rivalries and wars to see who could colonize hardest that Britain won, slavery, Napoleonic history for 2 days, World War 2 and Columbus."
And, unlike most schools in the state, let alone the country, he made sure to teach us about the Arabic states. It was only a 2-week course, and he had to cut some fluff out of British history (so I don't know the names of King Henry's wives... boohoo,) but some of the ancient stuff, like the Byzentine Empire being basically just Rome a little bit to the east with some amazing developments of their own (and RIP Constantinople, sacked and destroyed by people they called to help them during the last days of the empire), how large the Ottoman Empire actually was, how the Arabic belt built up and developed things that we take for granted as European inventions like the printing press, astronomy (which, fun fact, was developed at a similar time in the Aztec empire, so when the Spaniards came around with their astronomy charts showing the earth as the center of the universe the aztec priests and scholars of the time had themselves a good chuckle and wrote notes about how stupid these crazy friggen Spaniards must be if they believed this stuff) and our numbering system, and the shocking amount of diversity and religions that were actually present throughout the Ottoman's history, and how it dealt with religions and cultures that were not the same as their core provinces. It was actually really, really interesting, if broad-strokes, history. And... it took me 7 years to get back into it after I'd graduated from highschool. Because life. And the education system that we have and resources in non-college schools being garbage. And college being stressful enough without adding curriculum I didn't need on top.
Basically, fund schools better plz and thx.
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posted July 31, 2020 07:19 PM |
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CountBezuhoff said:
The so called 'Arabic numbers' actually originate from India, they were just introduced to Europe by the Arabs, who have their very own and different system to denote numerals.
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Specifically, if I'm remembering my ancient history correctly, they introduced the number "0" to the India numeric system. Which, if you think of how much work the number 0 does in counting these days (how many billionaires would we have if we had to count by 9's instead of by 10's, 100's, 1,000's?!) is a pretty big improvement.
Neraus said:
Yeah, people are used to them being just numbers, calling them arabic numerals seem to them like adding a foreign element that has no place. They'd probably have the same reaction to roman numbers, or japanese numbers.
I'd quibble that most Americans would be okay with teaching their kids Roman numerals, since people in the USA are taught that Rome was a GrEaT aNd MIgHty cIVilIzATion, the lAAAArgESt and mOsT POWerFul one in fact, and that it carries a legacy to this day. And there's a good chance that a large portion of the population would think that the numbering system we use is Roman numerals.
You know.
Like ignorant people.
Fund schools with just 15% of what is given to the military plz and thx.
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posted July 31, 2020 07:40 PM |
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I'd quibble that most Americans would be okay with teaching their kids Roman numerals, since people in the USA are taught that Rome was a GrEaT aNd MIgHty cIVilIzATion, the lAAAArgESt and mOsT POWerFul one
Everything the Greeks did, the Romans did earlier. They were copycats.
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posted July 31, 2020 07:41 PM |
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@ blizz: you seem to have missed the part where i specified "ultra rich". Poor countries do not apply.
@gnomes: didn't read most of what you wrote(a lot of it seemed unnecessarily provocative, given the content in my posts in this thread) but i agree the U.S. needs better education. The problem is, with our Constitution and the fact that we have the ability to be armed, an substandard-educated populace is generally an easier-controlled populace. You are talking about the descendants of the most non-compliant people in the world, after all. The populace these days are slaves by their minds, only. Control thought = control power, in the states.
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posted July 31, 2020 07:45 PM |
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fred79 said:
@ blizz: you seem to have missed the part where i specified "ultra rich". Poor countries do not apply.
But even the ultra rich have limits. The Sauds are ultra rich and would indisputably be immensely pleased with a US-Iran war and for Iran to get obliterated. It hasn't happened yet because in a cost-risk analysis, a war with Iran is not justifiable.
Iraq was seen as an acceptable cost-risk. It backfired because there simply isn't any substantive enough "pro-US" group in Iraq to support and prop up and the power vacuum was worse than anticipated. The area is just varying shades of "We h8 you so much plz go away".
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posted July 31, 2020 07:59 PM |
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Blizzardboy said:
Everything the Greeks did, the Romans did earlier. They were copycats.
I guess you wanted to say the opposite.
Yet they weren't, Roman technology was better and don't make me start with the military. Roman advancements it that area were unmatched for more then a thousand years.
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posted July 31, 2020 08:09 PM |
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I tend to agree that Rome was simply cooler than Greece. They really mastered the art of subsidiarity to make newly conquered territory genuinely loyal over time.
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posted July 31, 2020 08:52 PM |
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I'd quibble that most Americans would be okay with teaching their kids Roman numerals, since people in the USA are taught that Rome was a GrEaT aNd MIgHty cIVilIzATion, the lAAAArgESt and mOsT POWerFul one
Everything the Greeks did, the Romans did earlier. They were copycats.
American education everyone!
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posted July 31, 2020 08:54 PM |
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Blizzardboy said:
But even the ultra rich have limits. The Sauds are ultra rich and would indisputably be immensely pleased with a US-Iran war and for Iran to get obliterated. It hasn't happened yet because in a cost-risk analysis, a war with Iran is not justifiable.
Iraq was seen as an acceptable cost-risk. It backfired because there simply isn't any substantive enough "pro-US" group in Iraq to support and prop up and the power vacuum was worse than anticipated. The area is just varying shades of "We h8 you so much plz go away".
Saudi Arabia is a country i haven't factored in, yet. They seem content to just play practical jokes on each other with wild animals lately.
Iraq was nothing more than a convenient distraction; a scapegoat in something it had nothing to do with. The U.S. toppling Iraq wasn't a mistake due to bad intel, no matter how much the war criminals involved want to convince you it was. Bush Jr knew damn well what he was doing with that. Hear anyone complaining about his or any other administration's war crimes? No. They memory-hole the bad snow and keep people divided with whatever they can; to keep the focus off them.
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posted July 31, 2020 08:58 PM |
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Neraus said:
American trolling everyone!
Ftfy.
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posted July 31, 2020 09:01 PM |
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I'm not saying it was all "bad intel" because Iraq's significance with a critical resource is why war was ever explored as an option to begin with. But it wasn't a distraction unless you consider nearly 2 trillion dollars to be a distraction. It was a calculated risk that went south.
It wasn't a scapegoat to distract ppl; omg the things you type are so ridiculously unsupported that it makes my head hurt. USA has less oil reliance today than it did 20 years ago because of improvements in technology and shale oil, but Iraq was in an extremely important location at the time. As a side effect some politicians might have used the war as a scapegoat, but that isn't the reason the war happened. You're putting the cart before the horse.
note: I don't justify or support the Iraq War, but I'm just explaining the motivations, which I thought were pretty straightforward.
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posted July 31, 2020 09:27 PM |
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I'm not even going to discuss that with you, if you took that administration's, and the media's word for it. You'd lack the gray matter to continue anything past your force-fed propoganda at this point.
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