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Heroes Community > Turban Tribunal > Thread: Why are the thumbs up / thumbs down icons light skinned?
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Blizzardboy
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posted August 02, 2020 01:29 AM

Why are the thumbs up / thumbs down icons light skinned?

I'm talking about these:



I know it might sound silly and not a big deal but I just figured I would post this here to let people know.
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posted August 02, 2020 02:19 AM

So it was all basically a LEGO dude's thumbs up and an irl dude's thumbs down!
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posted August 02, 2020 03:04 AM

Because that's human color. What would you rather them be, purple?
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posted August 02, 2020 10:46 AM
Edited by Baronus at 10:47, 02 Aug 2020.

Baronus

Marxism as kind of satanism has no logic because devil has no logic. He is inteligent but stupid. Because he choised hell not heven. Its full stupidity. So marxian ideologist as his patron are irrational. This quasireligion has own irrational dogmats and discussing with it is no sense. For you its new but for people from former communists states is very good know. Communism is cereb captivity. And its intelectual virus. We have not only physical virus.
As you see christianity is free haven freedom wisdom clean spirit! Your soul can fly! If you find it you dont want anything else.


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posted August 02, 2020 11:55 AM

I just wanted those icons to know that it's ok to be the color they are.

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posted August 02, 2020 11:56 AM

Baronus said:
Communism is cerebrum captivity. And its intellectual virus. We have not only physical virus.

Poor Baronus, you got one of those virus at a very young age, didn't you? And there are still no promises of a cure or hopes of recovering?
Your brain is already so diluted you confuse concepts, like Christianity with Communism.
If we were good people we should start a GoFundMe for your palliative cares but I'm not.
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Baronus
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posted August 02, 2020 04:21 PM

Try to write something sensible. Personal attacks psudoirony etc. You are explanatio  how do not discuss.


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posted August 02, 2020 04:55 PM
Edited by bloodsucker at 17:03, 02 Aug 2020.

Baronus said:
Try to write something sensible.
Like this?
Baronus said:
Marxism as kind of satanism has no logic because devil has no logic.
I'm not sure if you are just trolling or really have the mentality of a middle age peasant but don't play the victim here. At least in this thread, you were the one starting the provocation.
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posted August 02, 2020 05:05 PM

I can't tell what's banter and whats serious arguing at this point
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posted August 02, 2020 05:28 PM
Edited by Blizzardboy at 17:28, 02 Aug 2020.

I think Baronus posted in the wrong thread by accident? I don't know.

This was meant to be brought to Val's attention, if he decided to do something or not.
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posted August 02, 2020 05:31 PM

fred79 said:
I just wanted those icons to know that it's ok to be the color they are.


There's nothing wrong with that color, but it does show how the dominance of a certain ethnic group can bleed through in surprisingly subtle ways that we don't usually notice or think about.

So maybe the icons can be changed to green/red, or silver, etc.
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posted August 02, 2020 05:32 PM


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fred79
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posted August 02, 2020 05:34 PM

What about black? I know that color is underrepresented here. Doesn't matter that it's from an older time in computers, and ugly, does it?

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posted August 03, 2020 08:14 AM

Looks asian to me.
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posted August 03, 2020 11:01 AM
Edited by Baronus at 11:02, 03 Aug 2020.

Baronus

This picture is very good so I give it. Soros sponsoring for all far leftist is very good known. They bring us tyrrany and censorship! This not offtopic.

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posted August 03, 2020 12:49 PM
Edited by Stevie at 13:04, 03 Aug 2020.

You know what? For the past few months you've only been good at stirring **** up with your incessant posts and thread creation surrounding the same controversial topics and I've honestly had it. I never called you out on it even though I had my doubts about the authenticity of your position, but with this thread in the Turban Tribunal it is clear to me that a line needs to be drawn. I don't think you can write off people's claims about you trolling the forum that easily anymore and continue to feign sincerity, but even if you are sincere, we've come so far down the road that it is mostly besides the point. What is far more relevant is the fruit of your actions. As the good Catholic you claim to be, you must be aware of the principle of knowing someone by their fruit, especially as outlined in Matthew 7:15-20. If I'm allowed a parallel, the false prophet is you, the false prophecy is your white supremacy narration and its branching topics, and the bad fruit is you sowing discord constantly and with premeditation. Your actions have always enabled an environment of bickering and negativity and you've never done anything to dissuade from that happening. You can find proof in your many threads lately, some of them even going downhill to the point the mods had to intervene multiple times with warnings, -QPs or even locking the thread. That is your latest track record, creating that sort of environment. And make no mistake, people are responsible for their own actions and bad behavior, but so are you for actively making way for the worst in people to surface again and again. Note that his has been your MO for the past few months, constant, deliberate and at this point undeniable as well. You hold moral responsibility for your threads and the way you navigated them, for the toxic environment you invited and sustained on the forum.


This thread is no different. You are again seeing a problem where there is none and fighting a ghost of your own making, but this time you're trying to push change on the forum which is something I can't stand for, nor can I just sit idly by as an observer and let it happen.

Let's start with the fact that you've created this thread in the Turban Tribunal and appealing to Val's review, which is all no accident. What we can conclude from this action of yours is that you think there is an issue, or a potential issue (which is in itself an issue), or something that can be interpreted as an issue, etc. that needs to be addressed at the highest level, regardless of its actual shade. Simply put, Blizzardboy thinks there's something wrong with the color of and , otherwise this thread wouldn't exist. On that note, I find it very insincere and contradictory when you then say: "There's nothing wrong with that color", but proceed with an argument to the contrary anyway. Yes, in your mind, there is definitely a problem with that color, that's why you made this thread, no use downplaying it now.

Then there's the timeliness aspect. The forum's almost 2 decades old but this apparent "issue" is only observed now? Could it be that there's a direct correlation between seeing the wrong in the color of these icons and being absorbed by the current US context about white supremacy/privilege/racism/brutality? Because if I look at Blizzardboy and his recent activity, his posts and threads, his beliefs and worldview, I could easily rest my case. This is the kind of issue you could only see through a broken pair of glasses.

And now for the actual argument:
Blizzardboy said:
but it does show how the dominance of a certain ethnic group can bleed through in surprisingly subtle ways that we don't usually notice or think about.


First of all, this (non-)statement is equally true for Chinese people in China as it is for Italians in Italy. It's called living in a majority culture, where things are made by the majority to appeal to the majority. Nothing wrong with that, no issue there, no solution is needed. It says nothing that benefits your position, on the contrary actually...

Because - and this is my second point - in the context of this forum, how did you arrive at the conclusion that "dominance of a certain ethnic group" is displayed by the color of these two icons ? Instead of, I don't know, maybe all of these icons ? Or these ? What is the dominance that bleeds through? I fail to see it.

And thirdly, even if you had that sort of circumstantial-at-best kind of evidence (which you don't), would you really go to think that Val was so drunk on what is entirely your own ideas of white supremacy/privilege in making those icons? Did it ever occur to you maybe you're imposing your train of thought on others a bit too much to assume guilt and need for reparation?


As a closing thought, as far as I'm concerned, it is beyond reasonable doubt that what Blizzardboy is doing here is not out of genuine concern or a compelling sense of meaningful debate or justice, but because he's drawing satisfaction from seeing constant bickering, controversy and people being divided and losing their cool. He's always provided an environment for that to happen and it historically lead to nothing good. This thread is just another push to see how far he can go with it. I already feel regret taking this long to formulate such a lengthy reply and losing precious time that I could spend otherwise, but seeing this nonsense reaching such levels is far too much to let slide so it had to be done.
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posted August 03, 2020 01:53 PM


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bloodsucker
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posted August 03, 2020 02:01 PM

You're right. I didn't notice this was in the Turban Tribunal. For me it was so clearly Wastelands material I didn't check that.
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Blizzardboy
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posted August 03, 2020 02:07 PM
Edited by Blizzardboy at 16:01, 03 Aug 2020.

@Stevie

Yes, I'm aware of Peterson's response to white privilege and he isn't wrong per se, but the difference between (for example) a newcomer that moved to China last year and a minority that has lived in America their entire life is that the minority in America can have a history of being discriminated against in spite of it being their home country. It goes without saying that people working in a foreign land may experience some unique challenges but those aren't identical issues imo.

Also, your second accusation is objectively false. Most of the penalties handed out were from Sal/JJ shouting each other down, which is absolutely nothing new and those two have been getting into verbal fist-fights since forever.

At any rate, it is entirely the admin's decision but I do have a right to post this. If your reaction is as strong as it is, then it is worth reflecting why that might be. This is the same trap that gets sprung over and over again: somebody posts something controversial, and then when other people behave poorly, they attempt to blame the person who started the topic. Don't you see how this is nothing more than an indirect form of censorship? It becomes impossible to talk about anything they don't like because the other side gets worked up into a frenzy and then blames their behavior on the speaker... and ironically this comes from the people who allegedly believe so passionately in personal responsibility, or at least they believe in it until it becomes inconvenient for them and then it is discarded. I respect that you haven't been one of the people to do this and I don't remember having an issue with your posting.

This is not the appropriate thread for this, so I will not respond further.
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posted August 03, 2020 02:21 PM

hey wouldn't mind for instance a Black thumbs up or down to represent all of the many prominent Black users at Heroes Community, good suggestion they have this in emoji sheets from beyond 1997,

I can see why people in the Jorden Peterson fan club would think that is divisive though lol
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