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bloodsucker
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posted August 18, 2020 06:44 PM
Edited by bloodsucker at 18:46, 18 Aug 2020.

CountBezuhoff said:
How are women a minority? There are more women in the world than men.
Don't ask me, for all I know female birth rate is immediately greater then male and then males dye proportionally earlier. But women are always painted like a minority in social media, maybe cause secretly they think it takes several women to make for the value of a man, like it takes several cows to make for the value of a reproductive bull. You know how SJW brains work...
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posted August 18, 2020 07:00 PM

bloodsucker said:
I wish I was a slave trader, I would be making a great profits from this flue, instead of worrying how will I manage to pay my taxes and my loan at the same time...



Well the protugese were the first to purchase slaves of stout african stock from the KANGZ brand. well documented fact.
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posted August 18, 2020 07:05 PM
Edited by Blizzardboy at 19:13, 18 Aug 2020.

bloodsucker said:
Don't ask me, for all I know female birth rate is immediately greater then male and then males dye proportionally earlier. But women are always painted like a minority in social media, maybe cause secretly they think it takes several women to make for the value of a man, like it takes several cows to make for the value of a reproductive bull. You know how SJW brains work...


That's one idea. Here's another: maybe it's because in some circles, they're a minority? lol

"Minority" isn't just about gross population. A combination of biology, height, and life choices make women live longer but if you go into Congress, women are very much a small minority.

For clarification: I'm not part of the crowd that thinks men and women should be equal in number in all sectors of life. Men and women are distinct sexes and they have distinct neurological structures that gravitate them into certain professions and life choices. That being said, anytime somebody is a minority, they are at much greater risk of being exploited. Race, ethnicity, sex, sexual orientation, language, religion/lack thereof, political affiliation, etc. It's always more dangerous to be a few within a large crowd.
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posted August 18, 2020 07:13 PM
Edited by bloodsucker at 19:18, 18 Aug 2020.

Kipshasz said:
Well the protugese were the first to purchase slaves of stout african stock from the KANGZ brand. well documented fact.
Well, Portuguese were the first ones to pass legislation ending slavery, too. It was done in 1761. It took almost a century for that to happen in the land of the free and Russia kept his serfdom up to the beginning of the last century.  
Do you want to continue the conversation or prefer to return to the "hey! I'm not Russian" theme? Cause my high school paper was about how Portugal was founded on the whim of a spoiled brat and I still have most of the arguments fresh in my memory. It will take me an hour or two to write everything down, so I would prefer not to do it, since I'm watching a stream at the moment.
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posted August 18, 2020 07:18 PM

bloodsucker said:
I've learned today that a new Thor movie is expected to came out in 2022, and it will depict a woman as the god of thunder. This is the emasculation of the entire fandom.


I don't mind when there is a new character to play a similar role because the original one, died, turned their cloak or whatever. What I really don't like is metamorphosing the character into another gender, race or whatever just for the sake of changing, without further ado.

Thor is a male character and that's that. Really, creating a movie with a Thor-woman will be stupid to say the least, specially if she is named Thor as well. Naming her with another name would be much more dignified for the original character, imho; at least not pretending there was never an original Thor or treating all the persona built around him as a simple job or title, as it seems to be Captain Marvel's case.

I am not a comic-reader, but I would like to know if there were female characters 'reborn' as male characters as well.
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posted August 18, 2020 07:26 PM
Edited by bloodsucker at 17:50, 19 Aug 2020.

Blizzardboy said:
If you go into Congress, women are very much a small minority.
That's cause a single look at Pelosi dissuades most other women from running for office.

Blizzardboy said:
It's always more dangerous to be a few within a large crowd.
That's why you're always so perfectly aligned with the mainstream?

PandaTar said:
Really, creating a movie with a Thor-woman will be stupid to say the least, specially if she is named Thor as well.
The worst part is that, as you can guess if you saw the movies, Thor's universe is full of powerful women, like Valkyrie, Lady Sif and Hella, there is absolutely no reason to turn him in to one.
The Valkyrie in the comics was perfect for the role (of coure, she was blond, so they turned her black to pander to some other important minority), but they want to pander and for that white men must be emasculated every time it's possible.
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posted August 18, 2020 07:27 PM

oh look more stuff brits stole credit for.


yeah, but serfdom was a tad wee different than buying kangz off other kangz, in the far west of the Russian empire at least where I am located. The old laws of the Lithuanian-Polish Commonwealth, specifically the GDL statues( which are also longest running properly codexed sets of laws, beggining with 1522) were upheld untill 1840, and the laws of it said, that a boyar cannot sell or gamble away his serfs, which was possible in Russian part of the Empire, but not in Vilno and Kovno governonships. this kept up until 1863, when Czar Alexander II abolished serfdom. So not last century, as it was XIXth, and not XXth century.

TL;DR, the legal status of an imperial russian serf was better than a sugar and cotton plantation kangz and kweenz.
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posted August 18, 2020 07:39 PM
Edited by blob2 at 19:42, 18 Aug 2020.

Blizzardboy said:
I'm not going through every action/adventure/sci fi movie with a female character. I do know that Wonder Woman, Rogue One, and Natalie Portman in general have all been ripped on.


Oh yeah, why bother to check as long is it doesn't fit your argument.

And I remember Gal Gadot being ripped for her Israeli-related comments or disregard for feminazis. She was actually one of the stronger points of the s*it show that DC cinematic universe is. The WW movie is mainly lifted by her role.

And Rouge One is considered by some to be even better then the original trilogy because of how it ackowledges that SW is actually about war more then anything and not some kiddie bears jumping between trees. It wouldn't be even considered if the actress sucked cus mc can drag down the whole movie with him/her...

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posted August 18, 2020 07:58 PM
Edited by bloodsucker at 20:00, 18 Aug 2020.

I'm not going to continue this path, 1906 was the date I found in Wikipedia. I have absolutely no idea about whose dates are correct but I believe you more then Wiki on this.
On the other hand, even if Portugal has made a large profit from slavery, I would need to dig a lot around the roots of my genealogical tree to find a slave owner. And since I already stated my position on the matter, when you brought up the Kamala Harris ancestors, I think I can say without reproach: that's as sensible as paying repairs to the black Americans.
Plus, at this moment I think you are diverging from any honest debate to causeless trolling.      
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posted August 18, 2020 08:08 PM
Edited by Blizzardboy at 20:13, 18 Aug 2020.

blob2 said:

Oh yeah, why bother to check as long is it doesn't fit your argument.


Or because I'm not going to individually respond to each one as you rant off a long list of movies.

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And Rouge One is considered by some to be even better then the original trilogy because of how it ackowledges that SW is actually about war more then anything and not some kiddie bears jumping between trees. It wouldn't be even considered if the actress sucked cus mc can drag down the whole movie with him/her...


Here's a hint: if the original Star Wars were "war" movies marketed towards men, the movies wouldn't have grossed obscene amounts of money. They were PG action/adventure/comedy/romance.
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posted August 18, 2020 08:53 PM

The debate is pretty much settled on this, now all we can do is to make Blizzardsoyboy sperg out further.

writing on most recent female lead movies is garbage, and the best bit, studios producing that, still fails to learn that. well, it's not my money they waste, so let them go bankrupt. even though that may not even be a possibility.
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posted August 18, 2020 09:00 PM
Edited by blob2 at 21:11, 18 Aug 2020.

Blizzardboy said:
blob2 said:

Oh yeah, why bother to check as long is it doesn't fit your argument.


Or because I'm not going to individually respond to each one as you rant off a long list of movies.


What the hell is you problem man? I've brought up a couple of movies to counter you one-sided view on the matter and your respond with telling me I'm "ranting"? It looks like Kip is right about you.

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And Rouge One is considered by some to be even better then the original trilogy because of how it ackowledges that SW is actually about war more then anything and not some kiddie bears jumping between trees. It wouldn't be even considered if the actress sucked cus mc can drag down the whole movie with him/her...


Here's a hint: if the original Star Wars were "war" movies marketed towards men, the movies wouldn't have grossed obscene amounts of money. They were PG action/adventure/comedy/romance.


Whatever I don't give a rats ass about SW, not my words even although I do find it actually on point. You said the actress was ripped, so I countered it with opinions about Rouge One which I've heard. If the actress was bad there would actually be such a ripping like Tran had for her role in the Last Jedi. She was subsequently marginalized in the sequel and her "boo" even found another love interest.

And Star Wars made "obscene" amount of money cus it was a phenomena.  The movie was a novelty and Lucas wasn't even sure what he wanted with the movie back then. Evidence? The ill-fated Christmas special which is universally hated and which was targeted for the orginal audience - teenagers and families.

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posted August 18, 2020 10:35 PM

It's all pretty simple actually:
Who's watching action/superhero stuff? Right, men.
What makes the prime audience really salivate? Right - a heroine, looking sharp and bashing up the bad guys.

So the trouble is, that Marvel made Thor - but not "Diana" (Would actually be kind of Arrow, except that the bow would work like Thor's Hammer...

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posted August 18, 2020 10:56 PM
Edited by Blizzardboy at 22:58, 18 Aug 2020.

MCU does a good job at pulling in pretty diverse audiences. Most are men but not by a huge margin. For an actual war movie, the audience is much more male.

Generally, men don't go to the movie theater primarily because of an attractive female lead. There isn't really a male equivalent of a chick flick. That's not a thing. Gal Gadot is attractive but I saw Wonder Woman because it looked awesome. Most men went to see Wonder Woman because it looked awesome.

As far as Love and Thunder: people have said multiple times that a Marvel movie is finally going to be a flop but it hasn't happened yet. Angry young males were predicting a Captain Marvel flop and it made over a billion dollars. The closet one to a flop was The Incredible Hulk in 2008 when the MCU was just beginning, but even it wasn't really a flop.
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posted August 19, 2020 12:15 PM

Sjw movies won't ever be a flop, because of sjw's. Duh. There are a lot of them about; and many(if not most) will see a movie more than once so it get's it's sjw coverage(and so they feel the maximum best for their sjw heroism).

With captain marvel, it was sjw's AND women, who most likely watched it more than once in theaters. Understandable, with women. They NEED heroes on the big screen. With sjw's, all you need is for their media to make criminals "heroes".

My bad, i meant martyrs.

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posted August 19, 2020 01:25 PM
Edited by bloodsucker at 14:07, 19 Aug 2020.

fred79 said:
Understandable, with women. They NEED heroes on the big screen.
There are plenty of female heroes, not only in fiction but in real life. But since the goal isn't acknowledge them but spit in the face of white men, it only counts if it's our identity that is being trashed one way or another.
The problem with some SJWs is they're willing to bend reality to fit their agenda. Just think about transgender athletes, who in his right mind thinks this isn't cheating? But because of a political agenda, other cheaters (the identity policies ones) try to frame it like you should be on board with it or you are a transphobic bigot.
They're all in for science, if it's to talk about climate change or alternative energies but relegate biology to a corner, if it's to talk about transgender rights.
The hell, I couldn't care less whose banging who but I feel bad for the women Fallon Fox tricked to enter the cage with him.

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posted August 19, 2020 03:41 PM

fred79 said:
Sjw movies won't ever be a flop, because of sjw's. Duh. There are a lot of them about; and many(if not most) will see a movie more than once so it get's it's sjw coverage(and so they feel the maximum best for their sjw heroism).

With captain marvel, it was sjw's AND women, who most likely watched it more than once in theaters. Understandable, with women. They NEED heroes on the big screen. With sjw's, all you need is for their media to make criminals "heroes".

My bad, i meant martyrs.

Male or female lead, I think we already had enough super hero movies but I dont really get this. First, you say there is no sexism, that you are not a sexist at all but then you call Captain Marvel a SJW movie only because the lead is female? I’ve seen it, it is not any different than any other Marvel movie, there is no significant political agenda overdose or anything like that and Captain Marvel is already a female character in the comic books, so what exactly makes it a SJW movie? We have Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, Black Panther, Hulk, Ant Man, Wolverine, Dr. Strange movies, all from Marvel universe with male leads, Avenger movies also revolve around male leads mostly, yet one movie with a female lead and suddenly it becomes a SJW film and then you say sexism doesnt exist. That’s so full of crap. It’s also you guys who keep whining about every little detail not just the SJW’s. Captain Marvel was a slightly over the average Marvel movie, nothing more, nothing less. It doesnt matter if the lead is a woman or not.
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posted August 19, 2020 03:46 PM

Women, and all females in general, need more, and better, positive female role models and heroes to look up to. To strive to emulate, or surpass. Name me one female in the mainstream, for women or girls growing up, that can rightfully be called role models. The women i see at the forefront for people to supposedly look up to, are garbage. The teenage girls they have girls and teens looking up to are typically snows.

In western society, the heroes and heroines around us just keep getting worse and worse. Kinda like they've been designed that way; like the degradation of western society is being actively pushed/controlled/driven. Or maybe none of them were ever worth a snow, i don't know.

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posted August 19, 2020 03:53 PM

artu said:
fred79 said:
Sjw movies won't ever be a flop, because of sjw's. Duh. There are a lot of them about; and many(if not most) will see a movie more than once so it get's it's sjw coverage(and so they feel the maximum best for their sjw heroism).

With captain marvel, it was sjw's AND women, who most likely watched it more than once in theaters. Understandable, with women. They NEED heroes on the big screen. With sjw's, all you need is for their media to make criminals "heroes".

My bad, i meant martyrs.

Male or female lead, I think we already had enough super hero movies but I dont really get this. First, you say there is no sexism, that you are not a sexist at all but then you call Captain Marvel a SJW movie only because the lead is female? I’ve seen it, it is not any different than any other Marvel movie, there is no significant political agenda overdose or anything like that and Captain Marvel is already a female character in the comic books, so what exactly makes it a SJW movie? We have Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, Black Panther, Hulk, Ant Man, Wolverine, Dr. Strange movies, all from Marvel universe with male leads, Avenger movies also revolve around male leads mostly, yet one movie with a female lead and suddenly it becomes a SJW film and then you say sexism doesnt exist. That’s so full of crap. It’s also you guys who keep whining about every little detail not just the SJW’s. Captain Marvel was a slightly over the average Marvel movie, nothing more, nothing less. It doesnt matter if the lead is a woman or not.


When the bad guy is male, it does. Not surprised you don't notice the obvious. They changed the hero into a woman, and pitted her against a man. As per the sjw program. You don't get it, because you're on board the sjw bandwagon.

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posted August 19, 2020 04:03 PM

No, they didnt change her into a woman, she is already a female in the comic universe. And what kind of non-sense is the rest, so according to you, if a female is the lead, so should the villain, what is that, some kind of plot rule? What about the third Thor movie then, Thor was a male and the villain was a female... You just make up non-sense and call anything that doesnt fit into it SJW agenda.
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