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Barbuta
Barbuta


Hired Hero
posted September 26, 2020 09:25 PM
Edited by Barbuta at 21:28, 26 Sep 2020.

Grigor Minchev tried to steal my map

On the 26-09-2020 I published my map Leon's Redemption on heroes3maps.com, but then I noticed it had already been published by Grigor Minchev. Not only that but he had credited himself as the author. So I downloaded "his" version of the map to check it out and I was amazed to find that he had deleted parts of the map that proved I am the creator. Like the sign on the minimap at the bottom right corner of the map - "made by barbuta". He had also deleted the change log in one of the pandora's boxes at 96-70-1 along with several other unreachable artifacts. Not only is this a blatant attempt at stealing the work of others but by deleting the sign on the minimap, he also broke one of the earlier sequences on Wizardino's path (because the sign was made with lighthouses that give movement points at sea to the AI). Also if he has edited the map with the base editor and then saved it with that editor, the map may have bugs that are non existent in the real version.

Interestingly enough, he has changed the date of the creation of the map to point to 16-08-2019 instead of 17-08-2020 which was the official release date on the site: www.maps4heroes.com. Here is the link to the official release: https://www.maps4heroes.com/forum/opinions.php?map_id=1932&game=3.

I had further proof of my ownership that I presented to the admin of heroes3maps.com and soon after on the same day the fake version of the map was gone and only the real one remained.

I wrote a comment on both "his" latest map and the official version of my map on www.maps4heroes.com that both got deleted, probably because I addressed an issue related to a competitor site.

I thought Grigor Minchev was a long-time map maker. Some of his maps published on maps4heroes.com contain comments from 2007! But judging by what he did, those maps may not be his work. A shame really! I thought he was a map maker that continues to give our community his work and passion.

I didn't want to write this today but I had no choice unfortunately. To all others who wish to continue to support and create maps in the future I advise you to be very careful and protective of your work and not let others claim it for their own. Thank you for reading this long post!


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Ghost
Ghost


Legendary Hero
Therefore I am
posted September 26, 2020 10:10 PM

Many edited map. Some edited my map and sent to heroes3maps, and heroes3maps wrote "by unknown". Because my map in heroes3maps. Hm we have three different Illusion world map, so I drew empty map turned into a Illusion, and I gave name is Untrue World. So it's "copy", but harder than original also 100% isn't the same scape-looking. Hm if you know worst map is All for One, when we almost have  10 maps or Monster Island has 6 different maps. Ok  but not copyright, everything allows edit map or create 2 part, etc. When map is popular, he/she wants edit, etc So map changes easier or harder, etc

Ok I don't understand stealing map. Because you/we can't steal, except edit, etc But he forgot to say edited by his name.
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Phoenix4ever
Phoenix4ever


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posted September 26, 2020 10:48 PM

It's a bit sad some people will take other peoples work and take credit for it.
I mean of course you can edit a map and do whatever you want, but you should'nt make it public and pretend you made it all from scratch.
I would be pissed if it was my map.

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Baronus
Baronus


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posted September 26, 2020 11:12 PM
Edited by Baronus at 23:15, 26 Sep 2020.

Baronus

Russians are collective society as Asians so they often dont understand copyrights. Keep in mind that other civilisations has another thinking. Aditionnaly years of communism made a lot of robers. So its not a hard ,thievery' western style. But ofcourse its bad practice and must by told that its only edition not a creation.

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Barbuta
Barbuta


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posted September 26, 2020 11:15 PM
Edited by Barbuta at 23:18, 26 Sep 2020.

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Sure everyone can edit a map and then publish it and that would be fine as long as you credit the original creator. The thing is Grigor Minchev downloaded my map from a different site, deleted the "Made by Barbuta" on the minimap and several other things and then posted it, and named him self as the creator. I downloaded his fake map and sure enough I found the text: "Made by Barbuta" in 2 different events, one on the map, the other literally the first text you see when you start the map. Not only that but because he deleted the sign on the minimap he broke one of the earlier story events.

I was lucky he uploaded his fake version literally minutes before I uploaded the latest version and I spotted his theft early. Shame on anyone who would do such a thing!

Edit: Another thing is, he has maps uploaded in 2007 or earlier! So, he is not some 12 year old boy. I question the origins of the other maps that he has uploaded over the years but I cannot prove anything.

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Baronus
Baronus


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posted September 26, 2020 11:19 PM

Ok. so intentionaly author eradication. Disgusting. But its Russia... Moral collapse after atheisation.
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Salamandre
Salamandre


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posted September 27, 2020 03:58 AM

Grigori Minchev is Bulgarian, you braindead racist.


Barbuta, I suggest you contact Minchev on his Heroes maps home site, and see what's going on, maybe someone hacked his mail or some error as many people exchanging his maps online. He is a legend in Heroes 3, all his maps are fantastic and 100% original, with unique feature not seen in other maps so it is almost impossible that he would do such thing, it makes zero sense.

I would hold any accusations until talk to him.
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Baronus
Baronus


Promising
Supreme Hero
posted September 27, 2020 09:28 AM
Edited by Baronus at 09:31, 27 Sep 2020.

Baronus

Dont use mad levidiots idioms like racist, facist, homofob and other squalors.
Absurd. Russian has nearly the same race as mine :0))) Hard to find more similiar to Slavs like other Slavs. Hahaha! :0)))
Bulgaria is the same soviet mentality. So not so far. Modern Rusia lives from oil gas grabbing. Its good known but of course truth is first. Ofcourse thieves are in whole word. I never told that West is good.
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All grabbing like this must be explained!
Interesting! Its real mapmaker? So its maybe cracker? It must be clear up.
We cnat waste good name Grigori Minchev! So we must be carefull!

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Barbuta
Barbuta


Hired Hero
posted September 27, 2020 01:46 PM

Update: Apparently a 3rd party had contacted Grigor and asked him for help, claiming my map as his. The strange thing is only Grigor's name was given as the author and not the name/nickname of the 3rd party. Regardless, the fake map is now gone.

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Phoenix4ever
Phoenix4ever


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Heroes is love, Heroes is life
posted September 27, 2020 08:46 PM

Good to hear.

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Stevie
Stevie


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posted September 28, 2020 08:13 AM

Barbuta said:
Update: Apparently a 3rd party had contacted Grigor and asked him for help, claiming my map as his. The strange thing is only Grigor's name was given as the author and not the name/nickname of the 3rd party. Regardless, the fake map is now gone.


This whole thing still feels fishy to me. How can you be sure he's not lying and thus blaming an imaginary 3rd party? Especially since they apparently gave credit to him? Doesn't that sound very odd to you?
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fred79
fred79


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Undefeatable Hero
My BS sensor is tingling again
posted September 28, 2020 08:58 AM

makes me wonder if anyone ever finished/tweaked any of the 3 maps i made and released them as their own...

i tried doing a search on maps4heroes, but found nothing. at least, not under my name. does the "time" search feature refer to a map having a time limit, or is it when the map was uploaded?

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artu
artu


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Undefeatable Hero
My BS sensor is tingling again
posted September 28, 2020 10:10 AM

Well, if they had “released them as their own” the maps wouldnt be under your name by definition, so kind of a dead end there, isnt it freddy?
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Barbuta
Barbuta


Hired Hero
posted September 28, 2020 10:45 AM
Edited by Barbuta at 10:45, 28 Sep 2020.

Stevie said:

This whole thing still feels fishy to me. How can you be sure he's not lying and thus blaming an imaginary 3rd party? Especially since they apparently gave credit to him? Doesn't that sound very odd to you?


Yes it is very fishy.

fred79 said:

i tried doing a search on maps4heroes, but found nothing. at least, not under my name. does the "time" search feature refer to a map having a time limit, or is it when the map was uploaded?



"Time" search sorts maps in newest to oldest order. Btw I found the fake version of the map on heroes3maps.com. You may want to search there.

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fred79
fred79


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My BS sensor is tingling again
posted September 28, 2020 10:47 AM
Edited by fred79 at 10:48, 28 Sep 2020.

artu said:
Well, if they had “released them as their own” the maps wouldnt be under your name by definition, so kind of a dead end there, isnt it freddy?


really?

you follow me here to point out something obvious that i already took into account, like i'm some dumb child? you're not taking into consideration that maybe someone would have released my maps and at least given me partial credit?

really?



@ barbuta: thanks. i'll check.

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artu
artu


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My BS sensor is tingling again
posted September 28, 2020 12:47 PM

@Fred

Relax dude, I didnt follow you here, I was redirected by the “where is Salamandre” post, that I was curious enough to check out..

Somebody “releasing your maps as their own” while “keeping your name” would not be releasing your maps as their own, that was funny, hence the

They can modify your map, turn it into something else and give credit to you as the creator of the original version, of course. But I wouldnt consider that theft like the first case, that’s a different situation than “releasing your maps as their own.”

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blob2
blob2


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Blob-Ohmos the Second
posted September 28, 2020 03:20 PM
Edited by blob2 at 15:20, 28 Sep 2020.

Lol everybody be like "I came here cus Salamandre". It's about time he gave us some update

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fred79
fred79


Promising
Undefeatable Hero
My BS sensor is tingling again
posted September 28, 2020 04:11 PM

ik,r?

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valex
valex

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posted October 13, 2020 07:24 AM

fred79 said:
ik,r?


Barbuta writes that someone is stealing his maps, but is there evidence of this or just empty talk? Because Barbuta stole my map! Here is the proof:

Lord of the Rings

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Barbuta
Barbuta


Hired Hero
posted October 13, 2020 01:30 PM
Edited by Barbuta at 14:24, 13 Oct 2020.

valex said:
fred79 said:
ik,r?


Barbuta writes that someone is stealing his maps, but is there evidence of this or just empty talk? Because Barbuta stole my map! Here is the proof:

Lord of the Rings


I haven't added the map to the site myself! Write to the site admin to take it down or I will write to him myself. And I get your point - on that site anyone can post any map and say any name as the map author. Someone could have impersonated him. Regardless whether or not it was Grigor, someone changed the map (which broke it) and added it as his. I had indisputable proof that I made my map, that I presented the site admin and things got resolved.

Oh, and by the way The Lord of the Rings 3.0, which is the map you uploaded to the site and sited me as the author, is made by Vallex (with 2 l's) not by you! In fact, I see you have created this account today and this is your first post. Now don't call me a conspiracy theorist but you are probably the one who posted my map as Grigor's and you are butthurt your stolen work got removed. Also by copy pasting the sign - made by barbuta, you broke The Lord of the Rings map as well.

But here is some more evidence that he has done this in the past: https://www.celestialheavens.com/forum/7/11126
The user "The Filth" claims his map - Nexus Polaris was stolen as well. The map looks like this: "the map formed a picture of a dinosaur and the subterranian map formed a picture of an alien". And here is the map: https://www.maps4heroes.com/forum/opinions.php?map_id=460&game=3

His newest map - Alice in Iceland: https://www.maps4heroes.com/forum/opinions.php?map_id=1943&game=3 is also rumored to be created by woshiyutong, a Chinese creator and not by Grigor

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