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Minion
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posted November 11, 2020 11:04 AM |
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Edited by Minion at 11:05, 11 Nov 2020.
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Legal experts have noted these suits are meritless, and even if they were successful, would not be enough to overturn the election results. Indeed, judges in several of these lawsuits have already dismissed them, noting the Trump campaign has failed to offer evidence to substantiate allegations of fraud.
No surprise there. Suing is not any problem though, they can do it, but they were pathetic if they thought the lies that their fans eat up (like no poll watchers allowed in Pennsylvania, a bs story), the courts will tolerate.
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Galaad
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posted November 11, 2020 11:16 AM |
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I do think there is a very high probability for Biden to enter White House in January. Ok, I'm not following any of these suits, but this is enormous amount of cases coming from various sources including mainstream ones.
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fred79
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posted November 11, 2020 11:26 AM |
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scum are gradually accepting they blew it big time with their obvious fraud. (hopefully)the msm are gradually accepting they'll have to backpedal in order to retain any semblance left(none) of journalistic integrity. and their followers(meaning, ya'll), will gradually come to accept the truth from the people who always lie to you(if they indeed, stop lying); because you couldn't accept the truth originally, from people who cared, that you all think have mental issues.
how could you people POSSIBLY think they were telling the truth? are you all just going to compartmentalize this and thoughtlessly accept what they say next???? how many times do they have to be caught lying to their viewers, on such a massive snowing scale????
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JollyJoker
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posted November 11, 2020 11:59 AM |
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There isn't any evidence for fraud. STILL NO EVIDENCE.
Get the hell real, man. Come out of your denial. The only fraud here is the Trumpster and his cronies. After all, they fight for their continuing legal immunity.
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FirePaladin
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posted November 11, 2020 06:10 PM |
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Lol, this whole snow is hilarious, but sad. Although I still appreciate the drugs thread about HoMM3.
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Gandalf196
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posted November 11, 2020 06:18 PM |
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verriker
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posted November 11, 2020 06:31 PM |
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isn't Rudey Giuliani a fictional character from the Borat 2 who puts his hands down his cacks, please post serious sources and take it to court do not joke about lol
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Gandalf196
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posted November 11, 2020 06:38 PM |
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Rudy Giuliani is not a joke. He's a well respected lawyer. There's absolutely no sense in saying "please post serious sources". I'm just reporting what the man himself said.
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Zenofex
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posted November 11, 2020 06:50 PM |
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Evidence is supposed to be sent to and processed by the courts, no? This whole "there's tons of evidence" and "there is no evidence" exchange based on what the respective fanboy media says is somewhere between ridiculous and hilarious (hilariously ridiculous maybe?). It's like you guys actually know what has been submitted to the said courts and how credible it is. 
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Corribus
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posted November 11, 2020 06:57 PM |
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Gandalf196 said:
Rudy Giuliani is not a joke. He's a well respected lawyer. There's absolutely no sense in saying "please post serious sources". I'm just reporting what the man himself said.
Respected by whom? He might have been respected once but he has no credibility any more.
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verriker
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posted November 11, 2020 07:02 PM |
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Gandalf196 said:
Rudy Giuliani is not a joke. He's a well respected lawyer. There's absolutely no sense in saying "please post serious sources". I'm just reporting what the man himself said.
fair enough I will trust you that Rudey is a real person and not a cartoon, however bear in mind trump was never popular enough to win the popular vote,
he and the trump will have to bring any legally admissible evidence and lawsuit to the court and even if so, it must be enough to overturn the five million vote mandate of President Biden across all necessary swing states to grab back power lol
btw why would the US Democrats rig the election enough to win the President but not enough to win the Senate, would that not be a bit pointless lol
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Gandalf196
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posted November 11, 2020 07:06 PM |
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I'm having trouble understanding the criticism; I'm not advocating bypassing the courts, I'm just providing information that could be presented as evidence in court. If you think that it's all garbage and I'm being foolish for doing so, ok, it's your right to think so, but do not think for a second that truth cannot stem from a source you do not repute as credible. After all, facts don't care about your feelings.
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Gandalf196
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posted November 11, 2020 07:10 PM |
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Corribus said:
Gandalf196 said:
Rudy Giuliani is not a joke. He's a well respected lawyer. There's absolutely no sense in saying "please post serious sources". I'm just reporting what the man himself said.
Respected by whom? He might have been respected once but he has no credibility any more.
Well, he has a fairly extensive career, do your research. Maybe he's not great enough to be respected by a moderator, but still.
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Corribus
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posted November 11, 2020 07:17 PM |
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Edited by Corribus at 19:17, 11 Nov 2020.
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Extensive career? So what? The career in law is tarnished at this point. He isn't even acting in the capacity of a lawyer right now, and there have been calls by many professional legal organizations to have him disbarred. For, among other things, breaking attorney client confidentiality on numerous occasions. Maybe you should do YOUR research.
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Zenofex
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posted November 11, 2020 07:18 PM |
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he and the trump will have to bring any legally admissible evidence and lawsuit to the court and even if so, it must be enough to overturn the five million vote
Not quite. Given the current climate where everyone thinks (with a generous media encouragement) that the guy he/she supports is the Avatar of Truth and the opposing side is the Lie Incarnate, it basically takes one fraud allegation which cannot simply be passed for human error (like miscounting a hundred votes in a given state for instance) to be recognized by the court to delegitimize Biden completely to all Trump supporters. In other words, the act of fraud counts more than its size due to the whole miasma of hysterical propaganda and counter-propaganda which nullifies the weight of facts.
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JollyJoker
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posted November 11, 2020 07:27 PM |
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Let me ask you guys a question.
With all the crap coming from Trump before the election, wouldn't the Dems have to be completely insane to try and rig something, full well KNOWING that exactly this would happen?
In fact, if there WAS evidence for rigging - wouldn't it be more reasonable to assume that it was a setup of the Reps, read Trump?
Think of the polls - all in favor of a massive Biden win.
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Zenofex
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posted November 11, 2020 07:34 PM |
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In fact, if there WAS evidence for rigging - wouldn't it be more reasonable to assume that it was a setup of the Reps, read Trump?
Watch out, that's conspiracy thinking right there - the US has strong institutions and wouldn't allow any candidate to cheat. 
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Blizzardboy
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posted November 11, 2020 07:40 PM |
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@Zeno
To my knowledge there are zero posters here who have said that Trump isn't allowed to make his legal challenge, but A) He has been shouting "voter fraud!" since 2012 for every election outcome he doesn't like, and possibly earlier before he had social media, so him being a living Aesop Fable doesnt do him any favors, B) Local Republicans have come out and defended the election process in their respective states, C) and most importantly, he hasn't actually made his case public for the most part, and the default stance is that the election results are valid, not the other way around.
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Zenofex
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posted November 11, 2020 07:53 PM |
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Edited by Zenofex at 19:54, 11 Nov 2020.
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It hardly matters what Trump has said in the past or what the media have brought up now if the court decides that in this case his complaints are valid and the evidence support that. He'll still be a hardcore liar but the other side will also be exposed as liars and not only to those who already religiously believe in that. Right now everyone is just parroting whatever his favourite media feeds him which alone already says much about the validity of the post-truth theory.
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verriker
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posted November 11, 2020 07:57 PM |
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Zenofex said:
Not quite. Given the current climate where everyone thinks (with a generous media encouragement) that the guy he/she supports is the Avatar of Truth and the opposing side is the Lie Incarnate, it basically takes one fraud allegation which cannot simply be passed for human error (like miscounting a hundred votes in a given state for instance) to be recognized by the court to delegitimize Biden completely to all Trump supporters. In other words, the act of fraud counts more than its size due to the whole miasma of hysterical propaganda and counter-propaganda which nullifies the weight of facts.
personally I do not really want to give a prediction or grand narrative generalising 70 million people for good or bad, however from a legal point of view trump needs to pull out the 270 electoral votes using the court or to defeat the USA democracy to defeat Biden, and these are not very realistic lol
reminder that it is the same guy who was so embarrassed that he got fewer votes than Clinton votes despite winning that he slapped together an entire commission dedicated to finding voter fraud, found or proved absolutely nothing over several months, and then disbanded the commission lol
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