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fred79
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posted June 29, 2021 08:10 PM

i hadn't tried monster yet. i was awake due to info-gathering. it was a nearly endless supply, at the time.

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posted June 30, 2021 02:06 AM

project veritas has a cnn techical director on tape saying cnn used propaganda to help remove trump.

just more verified content for those who want to ignore facts.

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posted June 30, 2021 08:30 AM

Project Veritas is a propaganda outlet und fabricates stuff.
Are you really so daft to take this as reality?

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posted June 30, 2021 09:14 AM

lol, after a quick 5-minute search it's easy to see why you believe that. they made some enemies exposing filth, certainly.

now, address the content of the video. or are you going to tell me that guy(or any of the people they get on tape explaining why they're filth) is a paid actor?

you didn't even watch either video where people were caught on tape literally proving what i've been trying to get through your skulls, did you?

you don't want to take MY word for it, fine. but at least watch the filth expose their own filth, straight from the proverbial "horse's mouth".

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posted June 30, 2021 09:23 AM

Follow the money...

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posted June 30, 2021 09:32 AM

1. is that supposed to actually discredit what comes out of people's mouths?

2. why don't you apply "follow the money" to ANY of the people and organizations i've been explaining are filth?

3. you DO understand it takes funding to expose filth, right?

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posted June 30, 2021 09:41 AM

Fred, your first link has claims that had already been explained and refuted. Wont waste time on that, since you cant grasp why it’s twisted logic or ignore it anyway.

The CNN stuff may be and probably is, true. But it’s not fraud. It’s no secret that CNN is anti-trump and it’s no secret that media platforms take sides and try to shine or outshine candidates. It’s part of the game. Before he got elected, Fox News supported Trump full force, broadcasted all kinds of propaganda and Roger Alies probably bragged about that just like this CNN guy. As long as they dont directly broadcast false information, the kind of thing he speaks about, showing Biden in a sports-guy image etc etc, is all routine media tactics. It’s not some big secret they do this. Hello?

He obviously thinks Trump losing the election is great and brags about, maybe even exaggerates his part in it as a media outlet. You cant conclude the big evil scheme you imply from this. Some media will be leftist, some wil be conservative and they will shine or attack candidates accordingly, some will at least have editorial principles and try to keep journalism on a decent level while doing that but that is starting to become the exception rather than the rule in the age of social media.
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posted June 30, 2021 09:49 AM

Look, fred, it's actually rather simple. If there really IS ILLEGAL stuff that you can expose, you don't make a youtube video. You give the material to the people who are funding you and THEY will make a court case out of it.
If you just make a youtube video, it means you actually have nothing, but you try to create the impression there was something and feed the gullible people who "won't be surprised" by the content of the video, because "they knew it all along". It's called propaganda.
What makes you (and Gandalf) as well think that these videos are showing the unedited, real truth? Because people who are funded by a political corner and produce youtube videos are really interested in the truth and nothing but the truth?

GET THE SNOW REAL!

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posted June 30, 2021 09:54 AM
Edited by fred79 at 09:59, 30 Jun 2021.

the courts have been proven to be corrupt, and you're telling ME to get real?

they tell the people, because the only way to beat them, is with the people.



you people won't believe snow straight from the vermin's own mouths. me, i already know what they do, because their actions speak infinitely louder than their words.

"already been refuted"... by who? the courts? bullsnow; they wouldn't even hear the evidence. the system literally manufactured and decided the outcome of the election FOR people.

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posted June 30, 2021 10:05 AM

People are not corrupt, just because they don't see things the way you do, fred.

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posted June 30, 2021 10:42 AM

agencies that don't act how they're designed honestly, and what they are supposedly intended for, are corrupt. especially when money and agendas that contradict their purposes, are involved.

and, people who are corrupt, are corrupt. if you disagree that the people/agencies i've been pointing out are corrupt(even after having video evidence of this corruption), at this point, then you are either lying to yourself to the point of having a legit mental illness, or just plain dumb.

but convincing people outside the U.S. on corruption in the states, is hardly a goal worth working towards. i would advise you to fix your own countries and affiliations, before thinking you can point fingers at mine.

where are my american deniers? where are the people here in the states, and where are their comments on these two videos clearly laying out what scant few besides myself have been trying to point out to them?

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posted June 30, 2021 11:28 AM

Gnomes, Blizz, Corribus all refuted your claims right after the election, but you were so indifferent to even the most obvious refutations, they probably dont consider it worth their time anymore. As you can notice, although I’m not from the U.S. I also didnt bother with the fraud conspiracy once again. About the CNN stuff, I already said my piece.
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posted June 30, 2021 01:01 PM

fred79 said:
2020 election fraud broken down in 15 minutes. if anyone from the other side even cares anymore, this video makes an attempt to help the viewer understand the scope of the election fraud. like i said, i was awake and monitoring everything i could when the bulk of the fraud happened.

instead of just arguing, watch the video. don't make excuses for what the video points out, as it covers a great deal, and anyone with any intellectual honesty will be unable to deny the amount of red flags raised, that point directly to election fraud.


I always had doubts about this election but... Dude seriously this is your proof ??? Come on...
Evidences go to wikileaks, not in your average conspiracy video with dramatic music. Taking indeed some facts but interpreting it in the most shallow way... When that dude says "this is scientifically proven" you just take his word for it because his speech comforts you in your beliefs. Isn't that the opposite of critical thinking ? You should check it. Critical thinking is thinking against yourself. Interpreting facts is not the actual facts. At the very least, you should study just as much the refutations brought up to you instead of dismissing them instantly. If you don't leave room for doubt in your mind, you end up with a faulty reasoning basically built om cherry picking stuff you read, watch or hear.
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posted June 30, 2021 01:09 PM
Edited by fred79 at 13:10, 30 Jun 2021.

they haven't refuted either of the videos i recently posted; only you two. they only took cursory glances at what was posted before; and never gave any of it a chance(you two and blizz are beyond hope). i want people to WATCH these two videos in their entirety, and then try to tell me that they don't bring up VALID points that directly contradict or invalidate what the msm broadcast and the system deliberately ignored.

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posted June 30, 2021 03:23 PM

I have no clue what the big deal is supposed to be. CNN (as others - watch The Good Fight, for example) were anti-Trump, Fox News are anti-Biden and were anti-Clinton. People listen only to those outlets they are affiliated with anyway.

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posted June 30, 2021 03:35 PM

@ galaad: did you watch the full video? all that guy did was highlight facts -i- already knew. the facts displayed(and not refuted by anyone here) on joecheated.com -i- already knew. none of this snow is news to -me-, because -i- was paying attention and gathering the info -when it happened-. they just did OTHERS a favor by compiling that info for people who DIDN'T do what -i- did.

MY knowledge of what happened DIDN'T come from any compilation/explanation video or website, whatsoever. the only reason i posted that stuff, was because they compiled it all for YOU. i already knew these facts being presented. and yes, they are absolutely FACTS. not opinion, not propaganda; FACTS.

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posted June 30, 2021 05:49 PM

No, they are cherry-picked half-truths like the votes suddenly going up at midnight explained by ballot opening process like a zillion times since then. I stopped watching right after that one.
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posted June 30, 2021 07:28 PM

what was that? you want... some cheese? you're asking me for cheese?

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posted June 30, 2021 07:44 PM

1- fred rants about facts.
2- People display his facts arent in fact, facts.
3- fred retaliates by going into 10 year old regression mode, starts quacking, cackling, blah blahing and so on…
4- A day passes, fred picks up from where he left off and starts lecturing humanity about international politics.
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posted June 30, 2021 07:59 PM

artu said:
1- fred rants about facts.
2- People display his facts arent in fact, facts.
3- fred retaliates by going into 10 year old regression mode, starts quacking, cackling, blah blahing and so on…
4- A day passes, fred picks up from where he left off and starts lecturing humanity about international politics.


1. fred tells people the facts on a subject that directly contradict systemic propaganda, in an attempt to unite people against their common enemy.

2. people, programmed to spout systemic propaganda, reject facts, because propaganda.

3. fred decides to not get angry, and instead replies with ridiculous words intending to relate how the propagandized spouting propaganda doesn't invalidate facts, but only serves to lower them to a kindergartener thinking level.

4. fred tries yet again, swallowing his hatred and trying his best to remain stoic, to reach the propagandized against their common enemy.

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