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Thread: Which version of Homm3 do you prefer? This thread is 3 pages long: 1 2 3 · «PREV / NEXT»
Ghost
Ghost


Undefeatable Hero
Therefore I am
posted February 05, 2021 10:41 PM

Now I know how hard to say. I'm farmisht schizophrenia. I'm not psychosis but schizophrenia since 2007 years, because I'm disagreed with diagnosis, I got a psychosis drug, it worked well without bizarre, lsd, etc except thoughts have still in a neg or pos. I tried to say I'm Homm machine, when stats say, but schizophrenia affected IQ has dropped. Since I tried hardest master. So amen and this is second created post.

Ok ERA/WoG is the best, when I can play with 500% AI difficulty level or SoD level. My new 252x252 map named Homecoming is coming as a soon. A map you find 500% AI also stack experience mod, AI gains 500% experience. Why a SoD level? I'm aged schizophrenia. I also want to play normally. ERA/WoG helped me.

HotA? A true amateur also human mapmaker style, you can smell authors handicraft, depend on you, common people "smell" maps, they download a map, when they like a mapmakers smell of world. I also can play HotA, even if HotA 1.6.1 on the windows. No installed yet. The first Homecoming, and other maps, it after I update all HotA maps.

RoE? Also the best game. I fighted against 10k Titans, 200k Zealots, or 7x legion with Recanter's Cloak and Pendant of Second Sight, or sometimes the evil red orb, etc depend on your succeess by factory bug like Cyberpunk. Because of Fear spell. Later on I test RoE versions, what AlexSpl said. But if you're a very fast, you meet lots or horde them. So useless.

Ok my gaming experience says

1. RoE and ERA/WoG
2. SoD
3. HotA

And other mod, VCMI, etc I don't play, because I prefer a Homm, not Forge or UFO style or strory, etc Maybe ACM. I haven't a busy. So I've respect for mod, etc Many years ago I've experienced with mods.
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Winston
Winston


Known Hero
posted February 06, 2021 12:23 AM

I don't play multiplayer and I'm a purist so definitely not HotA since it's basically its own vision of the game and has changed and removed tons of the original game content.

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Rimgrabber
Rimgrabber


Promising
Famous Hero
Voice in Gelu's Head
posted February 06, 2021 04:20 AM
Edited by Rimgrabber at 04:21, 06 Feb 2021.

HoTA for me since I always have weird technical problems when I try to install anything WOG or ERA based, which sucks because I was really interested in the Advanced Classes mod and Succession Wars mod. I prefer H5 to H3 though, because the RPG aspects are better developed.
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RerryR
RerryR


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Supreme Hero
Researching Magic
posted February 06, 2021 10:58 AM

ah ja the Rimgrabber paradox, I remember.
did you try the newest assembly version?
http://heroes3wog.net/homm3-era-hd-era-scripts-gaming-build-download/

Most likely your Antivirus blocks some essentials files during installation or you have some very old operation system, computer?

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Undeadgamer62
Undeadgamer62


Known Hero
posted February 06, 2021 06:29 PM

RerryR said:
ah ja the Rimgrabber paradox, I remember.
did you try the newest assembly version?
http://heroes3wog.net/homm3-era-hd-era-scripts-gaming-build-download/

Most likely your Antivirus blocks some essentials files during installation or you have some very old operation system, computer?

This is a good point. Bitdefender routinely quarantines certain files during the installation. I have to restore them every single time I set up a new ERA-WOG folder. An Antivirus with less obvious messaging and undo options would really be difficult in this situation.

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Rimgrabber
Rimgrabber


Promising
Famous Hero
Voice in Gelu's Head
posted February 06, 2021 06:50 PM

Actually, I did get a new PC since the last time I tried. I'll give it another go.
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blob2
blob2


Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
posted February 06, 2021 08:01 PM

FirePaladin said:
blob2 said:
Double: whaaa?


I fully answered the op's question. Can't do much about it if one can't understand it.



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Gandalf196
Gandalf196


Disgraceful
Supreme Hero
posted February 06, 2021 10:58 PM

The_Green_Drag said:
I like the Heroes 3 HD Edition by Ubisoft


Where are the mods?
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The_Green_Drag
The_Green_Drag


Supreme Hero
posted February 17, 2021 12:50 AM

Gandalf196 said:
The_Green_Drag said:
I like the Heroes 3 HD Edition by Ubisoft


Where are the mods?


Was only joking  Nobody likes that version with its ugly green dragons!


HotA is the version I mostly play. 2nd is succession wars mod, which I’ll count cause it’s technically still heroes 3 lol

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Baronus
Baronus


Legendary Hero
posted February 18, 2021 08:21 PM

I like mods so I like all versions! More is better! Of course the best are platforms like Era and VCMI.

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FirePaladin
FirePaladin


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DoR Modder
posted February 18, 2021 08:36 PM

Best regards, but VCMI is not a mod, rather a recreation of HoMM3.
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gatecrasher
gatecrasher


Famous Hero
posted February 18, 2021 10:06 PM

ERA vs HotA is like apples vs oranges.

ERA is a platform which can extend the classic HoMM3 gaming experience or upon which you can build mods and maps which feel like an entirely new game. New game mechanics, new look and feel, new genre...amazing stuff out there. Some of this stuff might come along a bit rough around the edges.

HotA is like vanilla SoD 2.0 or a late new official expansion.
It comes with treats like simultaneous turns for multiplayer games and it helped to get rid of some of the ridiculous rules of the multiplayer community.

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Baronus
Baronus


Legendary Hero
posted February 18, 2021 10:16 PM

VCMI allows play a lot of mods! Ofcourse new engine is mod too!!!

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FirePaladin
FirePaladin


Legendary Hero
DoR Modder
posted February 18, 2021 10:23 PM
Edited by FirePaladin at 23:41, 18 Feb 2021.

@gatecrasher

HotA could technically be part of a platform similar to ERA and nothing would be different. So personally, I wouldn't go and show them as opposites or things which cannot exist together, in the same H3. To be more explicit, ERA is a modding platform, while HotA is a hardcoded mod. And while I'm at it, I currently mainly play HotA.

Edit: Simultaneous turns are an HD+ mod feature.

@Baronus

It's still technically a remake which uses HoMM3's assets and mechanics.
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Undeadgamer62
Undeadgamer62


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posted February 19, 2021 05:01 PM

FirePaladin said:
@gatecrasher

HotA could technically be part of a platform similar to ERA and nothing would be different. So personally, I wouldn't go and show them as opposites or things which cannot exist together, in the same H3. To be more explicit, ERA is a modding platform, while HotA is a hardcoded mod. And while I'm at it, I currently mainly play HotA.

Edit: Simultaneous turns are an HD+ mod feature.

@Baronus

It's still technically a remake which uses HoMM3's assets and mechanics.

Except that HOTA isn't part of a platform--it's intended to be its own thing. I think HOTA and ERA can be differentiated by their design philosophies. HOTA's team chose to focus on hardcoding because, like many artists, they want to retain creative control. They have made it clear that they do not approve of and will not support any HOTA content being exported to other venues. (So even if HOTA could in theory exist as part of a platform, that's contrary to the desires of its designers.) Nor do they want to build in much flexibility into their own product. They are within their rights to do that, but the approach is very different from ERA, which provides lots of configurable options and allows extremely diverse modding possibilities. The result is that HOTA is more polished and refined, but less varied. ERA and/or its various mods more frequently have bugs, but they also allow for a wider range of experiences. Each one is a valuable addition to the HoMM3 community, but I can see why someone would view them as contrasting approaches.

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FirePaladin
FirePaladin


Legendary Hero
DoR Modder
posted February 19, 2021 05:07 PM
Edited by FirePaladin at 17:09, 19 Feb 2021.

You didn't get my point. I was just saying that a mod like HotA can technically be both a platform mod or a standalone mod without having any differences at all between each other.

Edit: I guess I didn't read your whole post, you might have agreed with this in it or smt. Still dunno why you went and explained design philosophies, etc., but oh well, I kinda went off topic too before.
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johnnycage
johnnycage


Adventuring Hero
posted March 13, 2021 02:05 PM

For A little while it was Heroes 4. I had Slava Salnikov Random map generator working correctly but then I got a new PC and could not get it to work on windows 10.Now my fav is Amethyst Edition Mod for ERA.Love the new monsters,cash's,and Dragon utopias.I've only had it for a short time still playing around with the wog setting's to see which 1's I like the best.Keep up the good work

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Mizuiro
Mizuiro

Tavern Dweller
posted March 20, 2021 09:58 PM

Heroes 3 is the best of all. And with HotA even more!
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fanofheroes
fanofheroes


Famous Hero
posted March 21, 2021 06:35 AM

I was introduced to Heroes 3 complete many years ago.  I especially liked the campaigns.  It was a good way to introduce combo artifacts and maintain a storyline.  I especially enjoyed using the campaign editor to make my very own campaign.  Random maps are fun, but making your own and putting it into a campaign was even more fun. So that the map remained a mystery, I'd just edit the town/hero that was relevant.  

I made a "clash of the titans" type campaign where I played each faction and the hero would carry-over with all their stats and armies to the final campaign to which I would randomly choose my race.  That way it was the best of whatever I could do in each campaign against itself: winner take all!  

Another thing I liked about the campaigns was that many times I was losing. For me, losing games only made me more interested because I had to problem solve different ways to win.  Otherwise every game follows  a similar formula and gets boring. So with that in mind, I was never critical about lousy town types because I looked at it as a new challenge.  Instead of having every faction balance as closely to each other, you could just play inferno and suddenly the games got more challenging because inferno sucked lol.  

So considering the things I like, I do enjoy the versatility of WOG/ERA to make subtle tweaks of my own instead of being at the mercy of someone else's tweaks in VCMI.  Plus I'm next to useless when it came to ERA coding, but the other members here have been more than helpful in guiding me to a solution (which I can't express enough gratitude for).  I think that's also a big bonus to WOG/ERA because there is an intrinsic reward in editing or tweaking something to your liking, and the veterans here have given the amateurs like me a chance to share that creative aspect as well.


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Delbin
Delbin

Tavern Dweller
posted October 16, 2023 10:28 PM

FirePaladin said:

Edit:Simultaneous turns are an HD+ mod feature.



Thanks for clarifying on the above.

Source: https://heroes3wog.net/how-to-install-heroes-3-hd-mod-homm3-hd/
"Where can I download HoMM3 HD mod?
The author of the modification is Alexander Barinov (aka baratorch) and it is ideal to use its official site for download. Just a little warning, your antivirus might not like the downloaded EXE file, so it might prevent the download. Unfortunately, that’s how it goes with some Heroes 3 mods. Try any of the mirror links."

How can we get in touch with the author (baratorch?) to make improvements to the HD+ mod? I'm hoping that the author can incorporate these two suggestions:

1) Add shortcut to do one click upgrade of all existing creatures in the hero's army when visiting a castle (like we already can at hillfort) and garrison army rather than upgrading each creature manually?

2) Add in an option to re-enable Simultaneous Turns (ST) anytime during the game after it was interrupted rather than forcing all players to exit the map and reload the previous save in order to re-enable ST. Perhaps add a dropbox to allow host to specify using standard ST profile or custom made profile that would us to check the checkboxes to specify how/when ST is interrupted (e.g. visiting allies' castles to learn spells or to assist as needed, heroes meeting up with allies to exchange army/artifacts, windmills, dwellings, etc.).

Is the source code available on GitHub?

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