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Thread: heroes 3 complete/hota fonts and foreign language characters
Djolaf
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posted February 10, 2021 01:45 AM
Edited by Djolaf at 03:45, 10 Feb 2021.

heroes 3 complete/hota fonts and foreign language characters

Upon installing and starting Horn of the Abyss, you can notice that the fonts are all different. Why is that? Who should know this?
My first assumption is that this is the official font of the localized Russian version, which is different, but contains Russian Cyrillic characters. This font looks quite different, as you can see when you start a map:



It is smaller and doesn't seem to have any shadows. For some reason, original bigfont = HotA medfont. To me, it doesn't seem very fitting for a fantasy environment. It might be more readable and since HotA is the main multiplayer version now, it makes me wonder if this makes people read text faster, or something?

When I play campaigns, I like to get immersed as much as possible into this fantasy world. Even the font matters to me, so I figured that replacing the new fonts in hota.lod would fix the problem. Now I realized that this font looks a lot like Times New Roman, only shoved into a bitmap, but it still looks better to me. I also had one tiny problem in the epilogue of Terror of the Tides campaign:



This brings the 2nd question - How are foreign languages displayed in Heroes3?
I guess H3 is limited to the technology of its time and it only uses ASCII, so it is limited to 256 characters. The characters are more or less the same as original ASCII characters, which include some west-european characters. We don't have Polish or Russian, so for those, some changes had to be made.


In HotA, we have the full Russian alphabet in the end part of ASCII, replacing the west-European accented Latin characters. I guess the game is told to check those parts of the font and use those characters for displaying Russian. I am not sure if OS language settings affect this, but now, I can read Russian maps and Russian lobby online. I can't type Russian though, I only get question marks. Maybe it's because I am using an English version of the game?


Thank you everyone for your help!
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FirePaladin
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posted February 10, 2021 02:02 AM

HotA has a smaller font for most possibly both of these reasons:

1. There was no longer need for such a big font since screens have twice the resolution or more compared to 1999's screens.
2. They needed either more space or smaller font to make the full abilities fit the creature dialog box (mainly for Conflux creatures which have lots of abilities).
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merri
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posted March 25, 2021 07:47 PM
Edited by merri at 19:50, 25 Mar 2021.

Having done some localization work with Heroes III to Finnish I can confirm that a smaller font is needed to fit more text. For example dragon in Finnish is "lohikäärme" and colors are also quite long so "Red Dragon" becomes "Punainen lohikäärme". And then you have to make it fit space like this:



As you can see the only way around for me was to make my own custom small font, and I couldn't make it a serif font (which would fit fantasy tone better) so it is sans serif.

Another issue with original font files is that one of them was corrupted and forced me to replace it since the Finnish ÄÖ characters were broken.

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emoryreyna
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posted April 08, 2021 09:52 AM

Thx, appreciate it!
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Baronus
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posted April 09, 2021 10:06 AM

For all languages. Grayface fnt editor. You must make your letters manually or import from your language version of H3 and remake.
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