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Heroes Community > Tavern of the Rising Sun > Thread: Why do you guys come here?
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fred79
fred79


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posted May 05, 2021 09:50 PM

@ azagal: life itself is hostile towards me; i've been an outsider since day one of my life. hc is just par for the course. i'm not a social guy irl(i only have one friend now), so hc is where i do the majority of my socializing. i'm not a part of any other social website; though i have haunted the chan since it's inception.

irl, i have high standards for companionship(making due has bit me in the ass forever). online, i make due. it helps there are decent people here. i try not to let the hate overwhelm me, but that is ever increasingly difficult. still, i'm a man of peace; despite what i have to deal with. all my life, that's been quite a lot.

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Azagal
Azagal


Honorable
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Smooth Snake
posted May 05, 2021 09:56 PM

As if to underline just how amazing Joonas is he saves the day without even being there. He still has a working link to the game I was talking about: The HC Project.
JoonasTo said:
Hey, I found this from my computer today when talking about JRPGs with Elvin.

Unless you have a specific reason for looking for version one, the version two is what you should always get.

HC PROJECT, Version 2

HC PROJECT, Version 1

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Minion
Minion


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posted May 05, 2021 10:00 PM

Amazing <3
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artu
artu


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My BS sensor is tingling again
posted May 05, 2021 10:00 PM

Although it takes its share from polarization in general, this place is still not thisist or thatist. And since the origin of attachment is a computer game, there is still a variety of people from all around the world, all social classes, all levels of education…

So besides from “old habits die hard,” it still is not just a thing to click on. You pick up the paper and read “Poland is so and so…” Then you come here and talk to someone from Poland, hear how they complain about it and it’s not a dot on a map anymore.
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Azagal
Azagal


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Smooth Snake
posted May 05, 2021 10:09 PM
Edited by Azagal at 22:19, 05 May 2021.

Eyyyyyy Forfy you're still here too!
You're not wrong, HC has been called "dead" or "dying" a lot and even back in the day woock, TA, pandora, kookie and a few of the OGs would talke about how the forums have changed. Change is normal, I just feel that throughout the versions of HC it was always a community. This HC seems completely dead in the social aspect. But again I am biased and have only very limited insight in this version of HC so thank you for helping me understand that there is a bit more to it than just "the tavern and osm are dead".
It is obviously short sighted of me to disregard the modding side of the forums and it's great that they're going strong but then again they still have a big sense of community to them, no?

And it's a fair question haha why did I drop by? Mostly it was a morbid curiousity. The manner of discourse here was so foreign to me I sort of couldn't look away cause I didn't think people would really behave that way. And it contrasted very harshly with how I remember this place. So a bit of voyeurism i suppose, i did never engage though and I don't intend to again. This will satisfy my curiousity.
And yeah thanks for pointing out that Joonas still had a working link.

@artu
Fair point, it is cool to hear about peoples different lives on here. If i may ask though, why do you keep at it with fred, kiph and gandalf on occassion? You seem pretty unflappable no matter what they throw your way which is cool but doesn't it get boring? Do you think you'll "reach" them at some point or why go for it again and again and again?

@Fred
So it's the social aspect? Do you think I'd be helpful for the social dynamic if you could maybe dial back the intensity with which you condemn certain views? Or is that part of the social interaction for you?
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JollyJoker
JollyJoker


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posted May 05, 2021 10:14 PM

Well, Azzie, there are some people here who post cool stuff.

Always interesting to check on what others are listening to. For example, I'm currently translating two short stories (by pretty well known authors) who both write "with music". The condition for the project was, they made a mix tape for the other guy who would exclusively listen to THAT and write the story "under the the influence" of that other tape.
In the introduction of that we learn what tracks were on which tape, and I can tell you it's pretty interesting.

There are also people who talk a lot of nonsense, and it makes no sense to let them do that unopposed.

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Azagal
Azagal


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Smooth Snake
posted May 05, 2021 10:26 PM

Haha JJ I still remember that you called a german translation of mine "adequate" or something along the lines and I was really mad at you for the longest time lol. Fun to hear you're still in the translation business. Well that project sounds very interesting indeed!
But point taken, I've prolly just missed a lot of the cool stuff in the short time I've taken the occasional look since I gravitated to the "drama" when I visited. Probably skewed my view even more. But yeah very cool to hear that there is still cool stuff going on, thanks for the additional perspective.

And about the whole certain needing to be challenged... I mean I agree with you but on here it just seems pointless. They're not going to change. But maybe changing anyone isn't the the goal rather than the fact that it's important to oppose certain things? Still seems exhausting, even if its correct.
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Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted May 05, 2021 10:32 PM
Edited by Galaad at 22:35, 05 May 2021.

Sometimes it just feels like Val is pulling some dark magic or something. Who ever *really* quits HC? Even Redsoxfan and Cepheus posted before disappearing again, maybe it was a couple of years ago already. Mythical too. I might be forgetting a few others.
Like Blob I joined around H6. At first I was interested by h3 mods but with h6 I started hanging around a bit more on the social aspect, and definitely started to actively post once h7 was announced. Man, the ones around at that time can confirm how chaotic it was, but tons of fun. When arguing over the lore, aesthetics or gameplay aspects of a video takes more proportion than politics.
Wait, it became politics
I'm nostalgic of one of the ****stormiest era of this forum, wait I'm sure there has been worst in the past. Man, can you believe h6 and h7 made h4 look fantastic, while it got so much hate on release.
It's somehow hard to deny the current state of the forum, even if cool stuff still happens, this place will always be a gem be it only for the modding sections.
OSM arguments are less fun though, especially when you start feeling negative about some people you actually respect. But it's also an effect of the internet (duh!), that people go a little more extreme than they would IRL...
Thank you for that opening post, it certainly gives a good vibe this place needs.
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JollyJoker
JollyJoker


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posted May 05, 2021 10:38 PM

Yeah, you are right on all counts. Concerning the "negatives" it's probably just an unwillingness to "concede by silence".

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fred79
fred79


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posted May 06, 2021 04:14 AM
Edited by fred79 at 04:47, 06 May 2021.

@ azagal: didn't you say that you've been lurking here since late last year/early this year? you've debated with me in the past before that, and i remember our interactions, even if you don't. if you've been lurking here lately, then you know why things are the way they are. there is a great divide between certain types of people. that divide will never be bridged because 2 different realities cannot coexist. if people are unwilling or incapable of critical thought, and they insist on being dense and participating in conflict that further divides people and in fact destroys the fabric of a functioning society and the lives contained therein, i'm going to have a problem with them. and for their part, they're going to have a problem with me because i don't participate in that, and fight against it.

and i'm not alone. but there are only a small group of people here, who are up against a majority of the other type of people. and the bias is easily apparent, in the moderation here.

i've fought the opposite type of people, all my life. it's not even just mob mentality; but the equivalent of human bots, because they absolutely lack critical thinking. and their issues go very far, even beyond that.

i wish we could swap places, you and i. i wish you could get a real glimpse of what things look like, from people like myself's side.

it's like being behind enemy lines on an alien planet that looks just like your own. or, being in a society where the mental patients not only roam free, but proliferate. dangerous mental patients dictating the rules.

or, better put, to be floating mostly unprotected, in an ocean where nearly all of the serious wildlife, are different levels of threat.

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JoonasTo
JoonasTo


Responsible
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What if Elvin was female?
posted May 06, 2021 05:12 AM
Edited by JoonasTo at 06:35, 06 May 2021.

To be fair I did quit and give Stevie my account when Val started his more ad revenue campaign. That just didn’t sit right with me. Actually, he should still have access. So you can never know which of us it is.

I came back to host an RP(which promptly died ofc) here as this was the most easily available place to all of us to gather.

And to duke it out with Elvin once he got out from under his modshield ofc.

But yeah, I’ve come to the same conclusion as you. There’s open hostility here that drives people away. Ad left too. And when people like him leave, you lose the heart and soul. The rotten meat that’s left behind isn’t worth the sacrifice.

Ps. You can always find me on messenger.
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Geny
Geny


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What if Elvin was female?
posted May 06, 2021 07:14 AM

Gotta say, it's good to see 2 of those threads filled with Phoenixes.
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Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted May 07, 2021 10:54 PM

So that's it? Lame!
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NimoStar
NimoStar


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Legendary Hero
Modding the Unmoddable
posted May 07, 2021 11:18 PM
Edited by NimoStar at 23:19, 07 May 2021.

Simply because there is not many places to discuss H4 modding :v

Also I have a phone connection, so what better place to use my  56k connection than a super old 90's style forum...
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Hedd
Hedd

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posted July 01, 2021 10:32 AM

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I don't have much fun right now. I work in an office but I am already starting to look for how to make a normal resume for a new search - [url=https://resumewritinglab.com/fix-my-resume.html]https://resumewritinglab.com/fix-my-resume.html[/url] The fact is that the boss gave instructions to block access to all social networks and entertainment portals in our office. Only regular forums do not fall under this standard. Therefore, I often go to socialize somewhere during my lunch break. Game forums are the most visited now.
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Celfious
Celfious


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Legendary Hero
From earth
posted July 01, 2021 11:17 AM

Azagal said:

Sincerely
- Old guy

Are you user "Old guy"?
Either way hows it goin Azagal
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Drakon-Deus
Drakon-Deus


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Qapla'
posted November 30, 2022 07:49 AM

Because I still like to.

Homm may be dead but the people here aren't.
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yogi
yogi


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Famous Hero
of picnics
posted December 01, 2022 01:04 AM
Edited by yogi at 01:06, 01 Dec 2022.

The private forum format of HC facilitates great discourse
The Heroes games are the best video strategy games ever
The Heroes games innately inspire insightful conversation
The Heroes games attract a very deep thinking demographic from all around the globe
Heroes gamers grew up with the internet and are some of the most savvy and intelligent people on the planet
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