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Gandalf196
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posted January 03, 2022 01:23 AM |
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artu said:
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Scientific evidence of bio-chemical situations where people's anatomy and neorology work different than the traditional binary categorization..
I doubt a single individual is equal on the chemical level, but, nonetheless, nearly 99.99% of the individuals who get pregnant have two X sexual chromossomes (I did not say 100%, because there are genetic abnormalities, such as Triple X syndrome, but I assume that's not what you are talking about). The fact clear before us is that an almost infinitesimal minority wishes to put our society on its knees and accept their twisted notions of themselves (brought by excessive use of pornography by males, leading to autogynephilia and the desire to free oneself from the pressure to be a feminine woman by females). That is both wrong on itself and detrimental to all parties involved. It should be fought on all levels.
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artu
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posted January 03, 2022 02:43 AM |
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Edited by artu at 02:50, 03 Jan 2022.
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Getting pregnant is about sex, not gender, it is irrelevant. They dont have the operations to have kids.
The claim that they exist because of porn is just your tendecy of putting evertyhing you dislike into one basket.
And really, this non-stop bickering of yours about how some tiny minority wants to put society into its knees simply because they want to be callled she or whatever is just dull. You are like some McCarthy Era crusader constantly seeing evil communists everywhere. Well, at least the Cold War was actually a dangerous thing.
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fred79
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posted January 03, 2022 04:16 AM |
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someday artu'll be a real boy, and not made of wood with an animatronic jaw worked by somebody else. but until then...
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artu
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posted January 03, 2022 07:00 AM |
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Yes fred, it's the jews using the marxists for the globalist cultists that make me speak like this. You figured that one out just like you figured out vaccines with your high-school diploma despite actual chemists trying to trick you. Why dont you do yourself a favor and not try sarcasm, it really doesnt blend in well with your flawless ignorance and hillbilly conspiracies.
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fred79
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posted January 03, 2022 07:24 AM |
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you're a caricature of a thinking individual, not an actual one. maybe you should try considering what i'm saying, or, i don't know, giving literally ANY individual thought to the snow you spew.
for years, when discussing anything with you, you thought you were smart because you read books and could repeat what they said like they were your own thoughts.
now, however, you repeat words from proven liars with nefarious purposes, and you consider yourself intelligent because of THAT.
really, the former "you" was more honorable. at least, by convincing yourself you were smart by repeating what you read in books, you weren't necessarily repeating harmful propaganda. not ALL of what you could have possibly read was being used against people WORLDWIDE. i would think someone interested in expanding their knowledge wouldn't restrain the various areas of knowledge to be gleaned from, anyway.
compare that to today, when you and the others are only robotic mouthpieces and enforcers for tyrants who are OBVIOUSLY bent on world subjugation and control. the snow you spew, ruins not only your perceived enemies, but you and those you love.
just something to consider.
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artu
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posted January 03, 2022 07:58 AM |
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That's really such a nice theory fred. But unfortunately it doesnt work like that. Books dont teach you what to say or what to repeat. They teach you to think in layers, layers which enable you to avoid saying studip stuff like this and not mistake ignorance for individuality. So, for instance, when someone says "they never landed on the moon" you dont object because you had read in a book that they did. You object because you realize it doesnt add up. So you see, you and I have very different "calculating skills" when it comes to realizing what doesnt add up. Something you wont be able to consider.
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JollyJoker
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posted January 03, 2022 10:13 AM |
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Since we are talking about the alleged moon conspiracy - the difference between that one and your pipe dreams, fred, is that they brought up actual points - like the flapping flag (wind on the moon), no crater from the landing, no stars on the photos and so on. Real verifiable facts that there had to be an explanation for (and is).
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fred79
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posted January 03, 2022 10:15 AM |
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Edited by fred79 at 10:18, 03 Jan 2022.
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@ artu:
i have never once denied the moon landing. are strawmen all you're made of, little wooden boy? is your only defense to equate reality with bigfoot tinfoil-hat bs?
@ jj:
yes, all the evidence in this world won't convince you of reality. i understand that. all you people have is your bubbles. stay in them; but don't expect me to join you. i absolutely snowing despise those very bubbles.
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artu
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posted January 03, 2022 11:54 AM |
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Edited by artu at 11:55, 03 Jan 2022.
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Yes, it was an analogy, hence the "for instance" part. Since you are totally unaware that your convictions are, to any level-headed person, not different than the fake moon-landing conspiracy, I used it to make you see how your claims sound. Exactly because it is one of the few conspiracies that you are aware of being a conspiracy. I guess, it was once again too much to expect from your subtle wit.
Thanks for constantly complementing on my wood btw, but I'm only interested in females.
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fred79
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posted January 03, 2022 10:42 PM |
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whatever you say, little wooden boy. you're not fooling anyone with sense.
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JollyJoker
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posted January 03, 2022 11:44 PM |
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What kind of a statement is that?
"you're not fooling anyone with sense."
Obviously he could fool you all day long, then - if he wanted, but quite as obviously he doesn't even try to, so what else is wrong with you?
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fred79
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posted January 04, 2022 04:16 AM |
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Gandalf196
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posted January 12, 2022 05:22 PM |
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JollyJoker
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posted January 12, 2022 07:53 PM |
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I'm not sure the article says what you think it says.
I mean, OF COURSE sex is binary - there are two and they don't mix and dilute like "race" (whatever that is).
But there are cases when a human is both. And there are cases when the primary sex organs are not in accordance with other facettes of that sex - say, hormonal production, looks, proportions, brain functions and so on.
What he actually says is, that if it's okay to call yourself a woman, because you feel like one, although you have a penis, you should be all the more so allowed to call you black or white because you feel like it (and maybe strongly about a lone forbear of that race).
Which seems utterly reasonable.
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Gandalf196
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posted January 12, 2022 08:30 PM |
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JollyJoker said:
I'm not sure the article says what you think it says.
I mean, OF COURSE sex is binary - there are two and they don't mix and dilute like "race" (whatever that is).
But there are cases when a human is both. And there are cases when the primary sex organs are not in accordance with other facettes of that sex - say, hormonal production, looks, proportions, brain functions and so on.
What he actually says is, that if it's okay to call yourself a woman, because you feel like one, although you have a penis, you should be all the more so allowed to call you black or white because you feel like it (and maybe strongly about a lone forbear of that race).
Which seems utterly reasonable.
now, from the article:
"If I chose to identify as a hippopotamus, you would rightly say I was being ridiculous. The claim is too facetiously at variance with reality. It’s marginally more ridiculous than the Church’s Aristotelian casuistry in identifying the “substance” of blood with wine and body with bread, while the “accidentals” safely remain an alcoholic beverage and a wafer. Not at all ridiculous, however, was James Morris’s choice to identify as a woman and his gruelling and costly transition to Jan Morris. Her explanation, in Conundrum, of how she always felt like a woman trapped in a man’s body is eloquent and moving. It rings agonizingly true and earns our deep sympathy. We rightly address her with feminine pronouns, and treat her as a woman in social interactions. We should do the same with others in her situation, honest and decent people who have wrestled all their lives with the distressing condition known as gender dysphoria."
You may see Richard Dawkins as being sympathetic to people who wish to perform cirurgical interventions so that they can be recognized as people from the other sex, but in no way does he buy into the bogus idea of "gender", that is internalized sex. In fact, he's pretty adamant: there are, for the major part, XX and XY individuals (the genomic abnormalities represent an infinitesimal part of the genetic pool, as he explicits). Men and Women. A tiny minority of men and women may feel that they do not belong in their bodies, but that does not make them transmen or transwomen. There is no such thing. Those people suffer from gender dysphoria, period.
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JollyJoker
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posted January 12, 2022 09:28 PM |
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He's not saying what you read into this, because he isn't evaluating things in any way. The one thing he does say, the reason for this article, is the strong negative reaction a seemingly white woman got from calling herself black, and he says, if it's ok to self-identify as a man, although you are biologically (genetically) a woman, it should be a lot more ok to self-identify racially the way you feel.
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I doubt that Jan Morris would have had much time for a man who simply flings on a frock and announces, “I am now a woman.” For Dr Morris, it was a ten-year odyssey. Prolonged hormone treatment, drastic surgery, readjustment of social conventions and personal relationships—those who take this plunge earn our deep respect for that very reason. And why is it so onerous and drastic, courageously worthy of such respect? Precisely because sex is so damn binary! Changing sex is a big deal. Changing the race by which you identify is a doddle in comparison, precisely because race is already a continuous spectrum, rendered so by widespread intermarriage over many generations.
Changing your “race” should be even easier if you adopt the fashionable doctrine that race is a “social construct” with no biological reality. It’s less easy with sex, to say the least. Even the most right-on sociologist might struggle to argue that a penis is a social construct. Gender theorists bypass the annoying problem of reality by decreeing that you are what you feel, regardless of biology. If you feel you are a woman, you are a woman even if you have a penis. It would seem to follow that, if feelings really are all that matter, Rachel Dolezal’s claim to feel black, regardless of biology, should merit at least a tiny modicum of sympathetic discussion, if not outright acceptance.
THAT is, what actually motivates him, to see sexual and racial identification in a relative comparison.
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fred79
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posted January 12, 2022 11:05 PM |
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Gandalf196
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posted January 13, 2022 01:52 AM |
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Sometimes I wonder whether JJ, Artu, Minion, Corribus et caterva truly believe in the crap they write or they do it for the sake of arguing itself. Nonetheless, I believe we should expose evil ideas (as gender ideology) to the light of discussion so that people can feel that they are not alone when they see themselves surrounded by chaos. That is to say, I'm not going to rebuke every single one of your points, because you twist things to fit your agenda and gaslight the ones who point that out.
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JollyJoker
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posted January 13, 2022 09:00 AM |
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artu
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posted January 13, 2022 04:54 PM |
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Gandalf196 said:
Sometimes I wonder whether JJ, Artu, Minion, Corribus et caterva truly believe in the crap they write or they do it for the sake of arguing itself. Nonetheless, I believe we should expose evil ideas (as gender ideology) to the light of discussion so that people can feel that they are not alone when they see themselves surrounded by chaos. That is to say, I'm not going to rebuke every single one of your points, because you twist things to fit your agenda and gaslight the ones who point that out.
Oh, please dont give me that "exposing evil ideas" crap. Putting aside all the scientific data about how sex and gender isnt always in sync (bio-chemically), wtf is evil about calling people what they want to be called and how is some tiny minority who has been mostly bullied all their lives and just want to feel accepted going to bring chaos in this world.
- Jack had a surgery, we called her Jenny as she asked and next day mothers started to boil their babies, the economy collapsed because nobody showed up to work, people are just shooting each other on the street!
The truth is, it is you who is being indirect. You dont want to expose "evil" ideas or anything like that. You're just obsessed with this witch hunting because you are a petty character. 50 years ago, you'de be doing the same to gays, 70 years ago, you'd be calling the FBI to report socialists and if we go back in time a little more, you'd literally be hunting witches and burning left-handed women..
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