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Gandalf196
Gandalf196


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posted September 17, 2021 11:35 PM

Poll Question:
Should the United States stay together or break apart?





Responses:
Stay together
Break apart
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Celfious
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posted September 18, 2021 03:55 AM

Its ridiculous, how we are the same two party system as we were since begore african rights. Its childish.

I wish we could split down the line and make it easy to move.
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JollyJoker
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posted September 18, 2021 09:22 AM

Break up into what?

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Minion
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posted September 18, 2021 10:22 AM

But why should they break up since Donald Trump is soon to be reinstated as the president, rightt? You are holding your breath for that aren't you Gandalf? How is it working out for you
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Gandalf196
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posted September 18, 2021 02:00 PM

Minion said:
But why should they break up since Donald Trump is soon to be reinstated as the president, rightt? You are holding your breath for that aren't you Gandalf? How is it working out for you


Come 2024 he sure will be
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JollyJoker
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posted September 18, 2021 06:07 PM

Again - WHAT are the US supposed to break up INTO? And what is that supposed to gain for whom?

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Gandalf196
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posted September 18, 2021 06:22 PM


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JollyJoker
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posted September 18, 2021 06:49 PM

What would that gain for whom?

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artu
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My BS sensor is tingling again
posted September 19, 2021 06:12 AM

Well, the Texans could execute abortionists in the electric chair for murder as they wish in the end!
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JollyJoker
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posted September 19, 2021 09:07 AM

I think, that's just the American electoral franchise and the American political "culture" of having two parties speaking.

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Gandalf196
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posted October 02, 2021 04:30 PM



52% of Trump voters and 41% of Biden voters want red states and blue states to secede from one another
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Titanfall2020
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posted October 02, 2021 09:54 PM

Gandalf196 said:


52% of Trump voters and 41% of Biden voters want red states and blue states to secede from one another


Biden voters called Trump and his supporters Nazis for 5 years straight, because the tv told them to. Now the TV hides Biden's the record inflation, war crimes, human rights abuses, social engineering, propaganda in schools, crippling tax hikes, and nefarious corruption scandals (like Hunter Biden selling his snow art to for 500,000$ a piece, higher than many Picasso's go for)

Biden voters are typically completely misinformed, with no understanding of the constitution. Trump voters are typically politically savvy, and understand both parties arguments. Biden voters have no idea what Trump voters believe, but instead caricature and demonize them.

Biden voters believe there are many genders, that police shouldn't enforce laws but instead enforce their political agendas, believe that the mass genocide of babies is a blessing, and that your skin color/sexual orientation is the most important thing. Biden voters also would cheerlead putting all Trump voters into death camps, hysterically seeing them as a threat because the TV tells them to. Biden voters also believe America should be the first nation in history to abolish it's own border, and the Biden regime in fact gave the border to satanic drug/sex slave cartels, which dramatically increased illegal immigration (among which, 74% of the women are raped  during the traverse).

Biden voters have abandoned reality, Trump voters are routinely oppressed by a gargantuan establishment bent on domination; but the Biden voters have no idea how many lies they have fallen for. How can they go on together? And yet, if the right seceded, the left would immediately ally with genocidal China and the United Nations to absolutely dominate the right.

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Gandalf196
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posted October 02, 2021 10:43 PM

Based and Thorgrimpilled
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Minion
Minion


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posted October 02, 2021 11:48 PM

It would be perfect. Only places that make innovations and technology for the future would be Blue states, and they could truly prosper. Red states could make tons of money for taking all the dump we developed nations produce, it is not like they care for regulations or any safety measures! It would be a win-win. I support!


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Titanfall2020
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posted October 03, 2021 06:43 PM

Minion said:
It would be perfect. Only places that make innovations and technology for the future would be Blue states, and they could truly prosper. Red states could make tons of money for taking all the dump we developed nations produce, it is not like they care for regulations or any safety measures! It would be a win-win. I support!




There are no blue states, only blue cities. And these cities have the highest crime rates, highest unemployment, highest income inequality in the country. Many of your inhabitants don't know how many genders there are, would go along with any totalitarianism from government so long as the tyrant feigns lgbt or green alliances. Your population is the most misinformed in the nation, off by a factor of 20 when it comes to assessing covid hospitalization risk, and off by a similar amount when it comes to crime statistics.

"Blue states" would be forced to ally with genocidal China immediately upon secession, in order to continue to demonize red states and keep the blue population from coming to their senses after having been dominated by corrupt politicians and institutions for so long.

After feigning tolerance and enlightenment for years, you would immediately segregate and dominate the red inhabitants of your states; following your ideological predecessors in Mao, Lenin, and yes, the racial socialist Hitler.

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JollyJoker
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posted October 03, 2021 07:37 PM

Titanfall2020 said:
the racial socialist Hitler.
Dangerously foolish nonsense.
You people are so off the rails it's not even funny. For one thing there is no such thing as "red or blue states". There are just states with a majority of the voters voting for one side of your foolish bipolar system, which doesn't even offer significant differences.
That has NOTHING to do with "democracy". It's just bullsh!t. If there WAS a secession, there would be a migration of biblical proportion, because the losing 48% of any state would migrate into a state with THEIR affiliation, and after that you'd have a dictatorship

Face it. US electoral system is mega crap. Because there is just no room for differentiation. Minorities will never get represented.

And then, Trump, the con man. He's lied and conned his way to everything he ever "achieved". And THAT man became president.

US of A have been a complete joke 2016-2020. Not even Bush jr. was THAT bad for your country.

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Titanfall2020
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posted October 03, 2021 08:45 PM
Edited by Titanfall2020 at 20:50, 03 Oct 2021.

JollyJoker said:
Titanfall2020 said:
the racial socialist Hitler.
Dangerously foolish nonsense.
You people are so off the rails it's not even funny. For one thing there is no such thing as "red or blue states". There are just states with a majority of the voters voting for one side of your foolish bipolar system, which doesn't even offer significant differences.
That has NOTHING to do with "democracy". It's just bullsh!t. If there WAS a secession, there would be a migration of biblical proportion, because the losing 48% of any state would migrate into a state with THEIR affiliation, and after that you'd have a dictatorship

Face it. US electoral system is mega crap. Because there is just no room for differentiation. Minorities will never get represented.

And then, Trump, the con man. He's lied and conned his way to everything he ever "achieved". And THAT man became president.

US of A have been a complete joke 2016-2020. Not even Bush jr. was THAT bad for your country.


It is dangerously foolish nonsense to call the totalitarian leader of the national socialist german worker's party a racial socialist? Or do you mean talking about the vast amount of similarities between him and the American left? Like non-stop identity politics and racializing everything. Like dominating corporations to force them to tow the party line? Like censoring all speech which is inconvenient to your party? Like having a paramilitary of degenerate socialists who terrorize your political enemies? Like using a false flag protest to frame your opponents to sieze totalitarian power? Like persecuting religious people, and forcing/deceiving churches to change their message to suit your party? How about the celebration of abortion, which Hitler praised, and which started as a eugenics program? How about hating Capitalism? All these, the American left has in common with the racial socialist Hitler.

American democracy was never supposed to be bipolar, the founders did not wish for political parties. Nevertheless, oligarchs created them to divide the citizens whilst plundering them.

Trump "the con man" achieved the lowest unemployment in recorded American history, was the first President in 4 decades to not start a new war, cut taxes for all citizens from poor to rich substantially, made headway against the opioid epidemic for the first time since it began, lowered the cost of prescription drugs by dramatic amounts, defeated ISIS after Obama let them terrorize entire nations, was the first President in recorded history to not gain wealth from office (rather, he lost over a billion since declaring candidacy), forced allies to pay their agreed upon shares for common defense which they had been derelict on for decades, gained the largest amount of new voters when running for the second term in history (+12 million), and had crowds of 20,000-50,000 people chant "We love you!" 3-5 separate times a day for a month straight on the campaign trail.

Biden "the not con man" ran for president three times before being installed, having been forced out for plagiarism and caught lying about everything from his record to education performance. He has never found a foreign nation he would not take bribes from, with documented evidence showing corruption in millions everywhere from Ukraine, Russia, China, Uzbekistan. Having a degenerate, crackhead son  caught committing multiple crimes, with video and picture evidence of whoring around with prostitutes, and even underage women.

Biden "the not con man" who forces women to allow men to compete in their sports, who surrendered the border to drug/sex slave cartels, who gave the Taliban 83 billion in military equipment, who refuses to help his fellow citizens trapped in Afghanistan being slaughtered by the taliban, who strong arms corporations into diabolical vaccine mandates, who gives his friends and union donors vaccine exemptions while forcing them on nurses/military/police in order to consolidate power and weed out those unloyal to his party. Biden, "the not con man" who almost never recieves a question from the press that hasn't been screened by his handlers, who cannot do an interview without a teleprompter, and signed far more executive orders in the first 40 days of his presidency than all previous presidents did in their entire terms (something he once called the signs of a dictator)

But you don't know any of this. Because the TV doesn't tell you. And the owners of the TV programs, own Biden.

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Gandalf196
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posted October 03, 2021 09:21 PM

There's so much redpill here that a certain moderator is due coming any moment now, closing this thread for allegedly violating rule x of code y session z
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JollyJoker
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posted October 03, 2021 09:34 PM

Titanfall2020 said:


It is dangerously foolish nonsense to call the totalitarian leader of the national socialist german worker's party a racial socialist?
Yes.
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Or do you mean talking about the vast amount of similarities between him and the American left?
There is no American left. For people like you "left" means everyone left of the Klan.
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American democracy was never supposed to be bipolar, the founders did not wish for political parties.
Who cares what the founders wished - they are not "gods". And where does the constitution say no parties?
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Nevertheless, oligarchs created them to divide the citizens whilst plundering them.
You are naive. You don't need parties for that.

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Trump is god blah
You can preach to your god till doomsday it doesn't change the fact that he's a con man.
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But you don't know any of this. Because the TV doesn't tell you. And the owners of the TV programs, own Biden.
Yeah, and you've been enlightened by his holiness Donald or what.

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Titanfall2020
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posted October 03, 2021 10:40 PM
Edited by Titanfall2020 at 22:43, 03 Oct 2021.

JollyJoker said:
Titanfall2020 said:


It is dangerously foolish nonsense to call the totalitarian leader of the national socialist german worker's party a racial socialist?
Yes.
Quote:
Or do you mean talking about the vast amount of similarities between him and the American left?
There is no American left. For people like you "left" means everyone left of the Klan.
Quote:
blah...
American democracy was never supposed to be bipolar, the founders did not wish for political parties.
Who cares what the founders wished - they are not "gods". And where does the constitution say no parties?
Quote:
Nevertheless, oligarchs created them to divide the citizens whilst plundering them.
You are naive. You don't need parties for that.

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Trump is god blah
You can preach to your god till doomsday it doesn't change the fact that he's a con man.
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But you don't know any of this. Because the TV doesn't tell you. And the owners of the TV programs, own Biden.
Yeah, and you've been enlightened by his holiness Donald or what.



Lol, absolutely pathetic response. There are so many literal bots with more effective rhetoric than you. It is not long before discussing politics with the ignorant that they switch from facts to slander you with straw men and caricatures of you, handed to them by the TV.

"There is no American left". Dumpster tier.

"everyone left of the klan" You don't know anything about me, or that the left wing Democrat party was the founder of the Klan.

"Who cares what the founders think" Why do the people who argue about politics always have under a 3 digit IQ or 0 understanding of government? No one thinks the founders were Gods. Everyone with understanding knows they were wiser men than most all politicians we are plagued with today, designed an incredibly just system, and warned against all the excesses of tyranny the masses cheer on today.

"You don't need political parties for that" No, you don't. However they have them. Read Machiavelli. The same reason mega corporations spend millions on union busting efforts which seek to keep their employees divided, is the same reason oligarchs spend billions on dividing the citizens; to keep them from uniting in favor of policies which benefit the citizenry rather than the oligarchs.

"Trump is god" What is it with you clownish buffoons? Trump is an ass, and a man just like all of us. But we was an effective president, a patriot, and cared for those close to him and his employees. Try this on for size "Trump is the devil. Trump is Hitler". This is a more pervasive sentiment amongst your fellow clownish buffoons, than the "Trump is god" sentiment is amongst his voters.

"enlightened by his holiness". Like I said, Biden people have absolutely no understanding of Trump people, and can't fathom how many lies they've believed. We exist to them as a caricature, having been demonized by institutions for 5 years straight.

When you know these things, responses like yours just look comical. But they are also sad, as it is proof propaganda has serious consequences, and is alive and well today.

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