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Thread: Amish COVID -- Full Measure This thread is 16 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 · «PREV / NEXT»
FirePaladin
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posted October 21, 2021 12:34 PM

Just as I said too, they started popping up already.
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Galaad
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posted October 21, 2021 01:19 PM

Gandalf196 said:
I could not grasp the spirit of your rebuttal.


More of a food for thought than a rebuttal... You don't need to understand the spirit you need to understand the sentence.
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JollyJoker
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posted October 21, 2021 01:19 PM

When you write crap, it's a safe bet to predict you are called on it.

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posted October 21, 2021 01:43 PM

I said all I had to say for anyone who is willing to think freely. Yesterday's conspiracy theory is today's reality, yet the tards will always find a justification and be fine with it. It's not even hidden now, it's all blatant. I hope that time will prove me wrong, but alas....
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JollyJoker
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posted October 21, 2021 02:00 PM

Is the concept of vaccinations so difficult to understand?

I mean, in Germany children have to be vaccinated against measles (and Germany isn't the only country). What is CONSPIRATORY about needing a vaccination for something is beyond me, considering that you MUST have certain vaccinations to visit certain countries for a long time.

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Ghost
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posted October 21, 2021 03:10 PM

I read that common people who have a low education, they don't take a vaccine. Än idiot, what you can see their theories.

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Gandalf196
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posted October 21, 2021 03:36 PM

Galaad said:
Gandalf196 said:
I could not grasp the spirit of your rebuttal.


More of a food for thought than a rebuttal... You don't need to understand the spirit you need to understand the sentence.


I was just being polite. You wrote bullsnow in such a pretentious way that it deserved no answer at all.
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posted October 21, 2021 05:38 PM

Romania is currently an interesting case. Only 30% of the pop is vaccinated and it looks like most of the rest doesn't want it.

Look at the numbers.

They are disastrous. Over 7.000 dead people in the last 4 weeks alone. That's 250 per day on average with a population of 19 million. And the numbers are going up.

Britain, on the other hand, has half that number within the last 4 weeks and no restrictions at all, not even masks (although the numbers are rising with them as well now).

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artu
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posted October 22, 2021 02:07 AM
Edited by artu at 02:08, 22 Oct 2021.

Assuming this is true, and that is a big if but I dont have the time to fact check at the moment, what does that even prove? The Amish already live very differently than the people from urban areas with high density population. So their conditions are not comparable to them, both in terms of speed of spread of disease and health care institution overload.

And what "freedoms" are they not giving up exactly? They already dont go to the cinema, concerts big and crowded enough to have technical equipment, they dont have a night life, they dont even use light bulbs ffs. Whether this is their choice or peer pressure is another matter, they already live according to the rules that are set up as precautions. (In theory, they make a choice, since when they reach adulthood, they are sent to modern conditions to decide for themselves but that's like sending you to 2315 when you reach 18 without any preperation or know-how, in a totally alien world full of strangers with alien customs, so naturally, most decide to come back.) You can say, all of us are creatures of cultural habit to a degree but in this case, it is quite easy to see their conditions are extremist relating the use of technology. So, unless you are ready to switch to those conditions, which, to you, would feel much harsher than any covid precaution at hand and which would include giving up your beloved computer games and posting conspiracy crap after crap here, I'd say trying to set them as an example is quite absurd.
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Elvin
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posted October 22, 2021 06:53 AM
Edited by Elvin at 06:57, 22 Oct 2021.

artu said:
So their conditions are not comparable to them, both in terms of speed of spread of disease

That part is kind of funny. Person by person you'd expect the city to spread much faster. Then you watch the video and he says, one has it, you go to church and then all have it xD Simply wonderful, they literally share everything.

Incidentally, I didn't know that they send their young to get a taste of the outside. Man, that must be a bit of a cultural shock. In 200 years they'll be the same and there is no telling how much more the world will have changed.
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Skeggy
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posted October 22, 2021 11:34 AM

The essence of the Amish approach to epidemics and pandemics goes something like this:  "don't care if I'm a basic spreader [sick with symptoms] or an advanced spreader [sick without symptoms], I'm not gonna wear a mask or get vaccinated because I think God sends diseases and even if 90%+ perishes that's perfectly fine with me because those who survive are chosen by the God."
That's classic medieval transpersonal unaccountability that renders itself in post-catastrophe reality as some external conflict.
The fact that the Amish won't go to war only shows that they are a communistic rather than capitalistic community and that they internalize enormous frustration that the classic medieval transpersonal unaccountability approach brings.

It's very interesting how they define different approaches, one for accepting the challenge and the other for dealing with the frustration produced by the first one. It's some sort of evolution, no wonder they had to flee to a new world to escape execution by the members of the one approach.

So you know, a little bit of effort on the first approach, maybe total disregard for the mask in favor of total vaccination, and there you go, you have a new evolution. Hope they won't be executed if they do that.

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Baronus
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posted October 22, 2021 03:02 PM

Today natural resistance is the best solition. See whats happen in fast vaccinated countries like GB Israel Singapur. Explosion detected cases!

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JollyJoker
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posted October 22, 2021 03:22 PM

That's a comment beyond ignorance. In every regard.

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Ghost
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posted October 22, 2021 03:57 PM

Vaccination protects for 6 months and no Corona disappears right?

I read American and Norwegian medical research say cod liver oil and vitamin d help against Corona?!?

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Geny
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posted October 22, 2021 07:59 PM

Baronus said:
Today natural resistance is the best solition. See whats happen in fast vaccinated countries like GB Israel Singapur. Explosion detected cases!

Enlighten me please, what happens in Israel?
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baronus
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posted October 24, 2021 09:03 AM

Eg. Singapoure GB Isr nearly the same.

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Elvin
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posted October 24, 2021 10:52 AM

Maybe they didn't get the right memo.
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Geny
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posted October 24, 2021 11:56 AM

I asked you about Israel specifically, because I happen to know what's going on here. And I happen to know that in the summer after the new variant hit things did in fact go to snow. I also happen to know that as the number of people who received the third shot rose, so did the number of sick and severely sick declined and is still declining.
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Baronus
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posted October 24, 2021 05:48 PM

After such big explosion aways in natural way curve goes down.

For Israel I have another interesting curves.

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Ghost
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posted October 24, 2021 06:07 PM

Maybe an explanation was found.

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