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Ghost
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posted November 14, 2021 07:07 PM

I agree with.. Yes like boom or type also found.. What you think some votes him-/herself in the maps4heroes? Do you know that maps4heroes uses only like button. and we can see you press like your map.. Youtube has aged techinque!?! I don't also think lesser dislike.. Other 404, what I can't also show you, it said like has comment, but dislike isn't same. So like said be true.. Hmm ok

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fred79
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posted November 14, 2021 08:01 PM

for the record, i've never "liked or disliked" youtube videos. i don't have a youtube account. the thousands(sometimes millions) of dislikes videos get, don't even reflect the true number of dislikes it actually would get, if everyone participated.

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Salamandre
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posted November 15, 2021 09:21 PM
Edited by Salamandre at 21:24, 15 Nov 2021.

228k likes, baby.


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NimoStar
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posted November 15, 2021 09:33 PM

This is an obviously coward move to silence dissent and I don't see how anybody can support it.

Of course we should know which videos are disliked.

This corporate propaganda only exists in order to enable to sell UNPOPULAR products and propaganda, therefore substituing money for public opinion.

It is just one more proof that the algorithm doesn't work according to your likes and desires, but as a tool of indoctrination of THEIR desires for YOU.
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Ghost
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posted November 15, 2021 10:08 PM

NimoStar! I don't know about you, but Russia can add on media. People say like. If YouTube removes Russian media. YouTube loses all. I mean the Eastern people can see trash also a part of Western people who are religion, etc

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JollyJoker
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posted November 15, 2021 10:12 PM

*Sigh*

Quote:
Of course we should know which videos are disliked.


ALL videos are disliked by SOMEone. Why would anyone care how many idiots clicked on some button like they suffered from Pavlovitis?

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posted November 15, 2021 10:26 PM
Edited by NimoStar at 05:13, 16 Nov 2021.

Because supressing it is a way to sell trash products and ideas when collective knows they are trash.

Normal scenario:

* Oh, cool ad for a game! Wait, why is the dislike to like 100 to 1? There must be something wrong with this, better research...
Ah! The comments say this studio releases rushed trash and has been disappointing fans with buggy releases for decades which they then refuse to fix or refund!

Nightmare dystopía scenario:

* Oh, cool ad! Wait, why are likes and comments off? Oh, must be nothing, it's just standard industry practice...

Why do you hate public information and democracy, JJ?
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JollyJoker
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posted November 15, 2021 10:33 PM

Because dislikes are disinformation.

And if you buy something because the ad is cool without researching a product you deserve being screwed over.

In case you didn't notice it, people push the dislike button (or downrate something) for all kinds of reasons, lots of them having nothing to do with the actual vid or product.

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fred79
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posted November 15, 2021 10:55 PM

Quote:
And if you buy something because the ad is cool without researching a product you deserve being screwed over.


positively dripping with irony.

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Galaad
Galaad

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posted November 15, 2021 11:00 PM

JollyJoker said:
Because dislikes are disinformation.

And if you buy something because the ad is cool without researching a product you deserve being screwed over.

In case you didn't notice it, people push the dislike button (or downrate something) for all kinds of reasons, lots of them having nothing to do with the actual vid or product.


Well, it depends, if I watch a tutorial or how to fix something video the like/dislike ratio can help me screwing over my time or not.
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Ghost
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posted November 15, 2021 11:33 PM

Happened! I've seen poor chess teaching but I've not commented. The wrong lesson brought like but loses from the game in a chess club. I'm lazy. Now I noticed my chess level went down. If I just want a comment I need a chess machine. ****

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fred79
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posted November 16, 2021 12:36 AM

damn, i forgot entirely about the chess aspect of all this. thanks, ghost!

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NimoStar
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posted November 16, 2021 05:17 AM

Quote:
Because dislikes are disinformation.


Correction, dislikes are information.

In fact, dislikes are positively impossible to be categorized as disinformation. How could they be? They just show your opinion.

People's negative opinion against something isn't disinformation, it's fact.

But oh well, surely the corporate overlords must know better, right¡?

"you deserve to be screwed over" is your philosophy as well as theirs. In fact, even google searches for a topic are SEO-manipulated by megacorps and headed by several ads.

Lety's make it as hard for the user as possible to connect with free thinking people, they must only connect with the approved corporate-sponsored... disinformation.
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JollyJoker
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posted November 16, 2021 08:38 AM

Look, this is plain bull what you put forth here. Lots of words with no content. Dislike is like thumbs down in Rome.
I don't know about you, but I'm not interested in the fact that there is a dislike - I'm interested in the REASONS WHY there is a dislike. Because dislike AS SUCH has no informational value.
In fact, people who just dislike something without actually COMMENTING on the why aren't even worth to be considered as source of information, which is why it's disinformation.
Because - be honest now - when you yourself have an opinion about something, positive or negative, based on actual experience with it, and you start to read the comments contrary to your own opinion - how often do you find yourself shaking your head about what you read?
And that's the COMMENTED likes/dislikes.

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NimoStar
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posted November 16, 2021 03:51 PM
Edited by NimoStar at 15:53, 16 Nov 2021.

Oh really? Dislikes will will you? lol

By the way, yoou have no idea what you are talking about.

Thumbs up in Rome was killing, since it meant an erected sword.

If you want to ignore the will of the people and put all your faith in megacorporations - you always were free to ignore dislikes


By arguing for forbidding expressing your opinion (both in likes *and* comments), you are effectively taking people's freedom to express themselves away - AND for knowing the opinions of other people. How is that different, in effect, from totalitarianism?

You always had your choice, but it wasn't wnough. You want to take other's choice away, too.

Some irony for someone who insists on being against "Fascism".
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JollyJoker
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posted November 16, 2021 04:32 PM

Don't be foolish, I explicitely said that dislikes WITHOUT COMMENT are the problem because those dislikes are worthless.
Comments, however, are fine, whether positive or negative, and in fact I even encouraged people in this thread to avoid vids with disabled comment section, ikf that kind of thing is important for them.

So cut the crap here. It's just about a silly outlet for people to anonymously vent beef they have. Anonymously disliking things is one of the most, if not THE most negative aspect of internet culture and has nothing whatsoever to do with free speech or democracy or some such. It's just a tool for the mob.

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Salamandre
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posted November 16, 2021 05:04 PM

Criticizing comments can be erased, likes/dislikes not. A thumb down or up is exactly as anonymous as a comment, since almost nobody shares on the net his real name.

But as I said, its not about the ethical aspect of disliking something without being forced to explain, but about from where it comes and why.

Recently thousands of YT and twitter accounts were suspended or deleted. Some on purpose of course, but many others just because they challenge the vaccination, the immigration, the criminality statistics and so on. It's not  hard to grasp then that every new policy removing some action is discriminatory towards same way of thinking. On the other side, the only way random people had to express their disagreement was the thumb down, since critical comments were just deleted.

I call this "forced (un)education" and the only thing it deserves is a big thumb down.  


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Galaad
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posted November 16, 2021 05:11 PM

Salamandre said:
Criticizing comments can be erased, likes/dislikes not.


According to the screens fred posted, you can remove dislikes. Also, not 100% sure but I think you can even buy likes. Yikes.
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Salamandre
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posted November 16, 2021 05:15 PM

You thrust fred now lol?

There is no way to cheat with the likes/dislikes, if there was one, the whole controversy wouldn't be one.

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Galaad
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posted November 16, 2021 05:19 PM

Ahahaha
I don't know much of how the whole likes/dislikes thing works tbh.
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