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Titanfall2020
Titanfall2020


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posted November 26, 2021 08:14 PM

artu said:
Manipulated into doing what? They dont spend anyway. Why should it even bother the rich that the middle class has more job options, as long as they buy their products, why should Bill Gates care if a doctor or an architect is buying a Windows and why should he prefer someone who cant.

@Titanfall
Fake news and disinformation as usual.


Let's see, yes there were more deaths within 2 weeks of the vaccine than there were deaths from covid. Purely a coincidence, nothing to see here, the Fake News has told us that such accusations are fake news and disinformation.

It's totally normal that young healthy and vaccinated athletes are dying of heart attacks at a higher rate than ever recorder. If anything, such deaths were caused by climate change

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artu
artu


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My BS sensor is tingling again
posted November 26, 2021 08:21 PM

The cause of deaths werent the vaccine, this is explained by every logical and evidence based way possible in the article. If you'll keep on believing in fake news even when it is presented to you why it's fake news in full detail, there's nothing more I can do.
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fred79
fred79


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posted November 26, 2021 08:22 PM

Kayna said:
fred79 said:
why do you KEEP arguing with us? what do you get out of this? what are your goals, here?


I believe we all want a little argument to satisfy our drama craving. I sure wouldn't be here long if I only wanted to convince people of things.


i am emotionally and logically invested in what i discuss regarding people in your group, because your group are helping to completely snow up western civilization; instead of fighting to preserve it, as i and titanfall are doing(inasmuch as we can).

the distaste of dealing with destructive people like you, who threaten all western civilization, makes your kind attack us on this forum, when you all should be strictly contained to reddit, getting people fired and snowing anyone who opposes you and the globalist agenda over through your network of globalist resources.

not here at a gaming forum, spreading your filth and getting people attacked by the mods for pissing us off.

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Titanfall2020
Titanfall2020


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posted November 26, 2021 08:26 PM

artu said:
The cause of deaths werent the vaccine, this is explained by every logical and evidence based way possible in the article. If you'll keep on believing in fake news even when it is presented to you why it's fake news in full detail, there's nothing more I can do.


No no, of course not. Of course the deaths that occured within two weeks of the vaccine weren't caused by the vaccine, not a single one.

And of course the company who paid the largest fine in American history for paying kickbacks to doctors for pushing drugs deemed unsafe by the FDA wouldn't lie. If anything, I feel they're more honest now that a former Pfizer executive is now a chief executive of the FDA. Some say its conflict of interest, I say its meritocracy!

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Kayna
Kayna


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posted November 26, 2021 08:27 PM

artu said:
Why should it even bother the rich that the middle class has more job options as long as they buy their products


As usual, I don't really have proof, only an opinion, based on personal experiences.

We, normal people, tend to be content with our lot. But people on top, they have a different mentality. It is the mentality of survival. Normal people do look out for their survival, but not excessively so. Normal people doesn't dig a nuclear shelter in their yard. Normal people doesn't hoard money once they got enough to support themselves and their children.

People on top though, they do way more. They don't just deal with problems and future problems, they also deal with future potential problems. They often cross lines normal, reasonable citizens don't. They keep hoarding money even when they have already billions in the bank, they eat up small companies that might have a 1 % chance of being a legit competitor in 30 years, etc.

Power is the motivation and the reason. If a government can have more power over it's citizens by having them being mostly poor, then so be it, even if the country might end up looking worse for it.

The question "why" has something naive to it, sadly. It's not really about buying products first. It's always about power first.

Of course, something can happen for more than one reason at the same time. If knocking the middle class back into the poor class and preventing covid deaths results in the same, then all the better! Just state the good intentions of saving lives and keep quiet about that middle class drop part.

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Kayna
Kayna


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posted November 26, 2021 08:31 PM

fred79 said:
because your group are helping to completely snow up western civilization; instead of fighting to preserve it, as i and titanfall are doing(inasmuch as we can).


What group? I'm just an individual. Yes, I do have -some- liberal tendencies, but I'm far from a standard liberal person that adopts every liberal idea out there. You're just associating things to me that I do not deserve to be associated with.

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artu
artu


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My BS sensor is tingling again
posted November 26, 2021 08:32 PM
Edited by artu at 20:33, 26 Nov 2021.

Fred, you are a manchild. Stop constantly blaming others for your own frenzic episodes. Even a scientist telling you how vaccines actually work was enough to drive you mad and call everyone sheep. Now, you are calling someone who respectfully answered your question "a threat to western civilization" and then try to banish them and then on top of it, blame them for pissing you off?

People arent a threat to anything because they dont buy into your paranoid ramblings.
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artu
artu


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My BS sensor is tingling again
posted November 26, 2021 08:35 PM

@kayna

But money is power. You will lose the power that way.
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fred79
fred79


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posted November 26, 2021 08:39 PM

once again, titanfall laying down hard facts that globalist sympathizers will argue against and attack.

the problem with giving people like globalist sympathizers a platform to use, is that they use every platform they get to ATTACK anyone unsympathetic to their cause, while people like myself and titanfall DEFEND themselves from these lunatics. everywhere they gain a platform, they use it to SILENCE their opposition.

if you want to have an opinion not centered in reality, fine; that's your perogative. but when you ENFORCE that opinion, it becomes a problem.

these people THRIVE on censorship. it is the ONLY way they succeed.

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JollyJoker
JollyJoker


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posted November 26, 2021 08:39 PM

Kayna said:
JollyJoker said:
Kayna said:
Governments are quite happy to knock the middle class back into the poor class with all these restrictions, though.
And why would they? Makes no sense. NONE. Middle class is paying the taxes.


Poor people also pay taxes. When people have money, they have the power to refuse jobs. When they're poor, they don't have much of a choice. A population that is mostly poor can more easily be manipulated by the rich. It's quite simple, I'm not sure why you don't agree with me on this.

Is that a serious post? If it is - we have been through that 150 years ago and it didn't work too well, The actual system is way better than that because everyone is in on it, hook line and sinker. If you want to see "poor", look to Africa, South America, Asia - oh, and not to mention the Middle-Eastern oil producing countries which are appalingly rich, but also have appalingly poor general population and appalingly rightless women class (which actually has been the other, lesser known battle of the classes).

The German playwright Bertolt Brecht wrote in his play Saint Joan of the Stockyards (he put that into the capitalis's mouth), "Will der Bau sich hoch erheben, muss es oben und unten geben" which means translated: "if the building is to become high there must be top and bottom".
And a bottom there still is - globally spoken. Europe and the US are part of the problem and top.

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Titanfall2020
Titanfall2020


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posted November 26, 2021 08:39 PM

artu said:


People arent a threat to anything because they dont buy into your paranoid ramblings.


The patriarchy, Russian collusion, cops hunting down black men, Covid is like the Spanish Flu, white supremacists are prevalent, online misinformation is more concerning than state propaganda, Trump was trying to steal mailboxes, heteronormative social constructs

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Kayna
Kayna


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posted November 26, 2021 08:41 PM

That's arguable. Yes, money is power, but see this kinda oversimplified example :

If you're a boss and you want to hire a middle class guy, you offer him 10 bucks an hour, but he has the money in the bank to refuse your offer. He can say "Nope, I don't work unless I'm paid 25 bucks an hour at least". But when you offer a poor guy 10 bucks an hour, he has kind of no choice but to accept because he has to make ends meat and support his family right now.

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Salamandre
Salamandre


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Wog refugee
posted November 26, 2021 08:43 PM

Just for the lulz, when Trump claimed a vaccine will be ready for the end of year (2020), everyone on the left called him crazy because there is no way to test a vaccine in that short time, its a matter of safety, of time testing blah blah. I read that in every media, it was all over.

Now when people are reluctant to a vaccine coming out precisely be the end of 2020, they are called crazy and uninformed by the same left because vaccine has been thoroughly tested, science has said the last word blah blah.

Just saying.

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fred79
fred79


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posted November 26, 2021 08:43 PM

Kayna said:
What group? I'm just an individual. Yes, I do have -some- liberal tendencies, but I'm far from a standard liberal person that adopts every liberal idea out there. You're just associating things to me that I do not deserve to be associated with.


i wasn't referring specifically to you, as you don't appear to use authority to enforce your opinion. i don't think you're wired like that, for what it's worth.

artu, you calling me a manchild doesn't help your case.

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JollyJoker
JollyJoker


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posted November 26, 2021 08:47 PM

fred79 said:
JollyJoker said:
fred, I've long stopped arguing in case you haven't noticed. You might argue with people who think the world is flat, but with the likes of you? I mean, it SOUNDS offensive, when I say this, but you and your buddy Titanfall are too far gone- As I already stated, you two are like religious zealots in your belief, and arguing with religious zealots doesn't make sense.

That's why I just joke a bit around.


you've said more offensive things than that many times. my guess is, you're mentioning that now because you're expecting cor to react to your group's hcm displeasure with the fact we won't assimilate into your collective.

cancel culture, effectively.

So Kip actually managed to persuade you of another conspiracy - "my group's hcm displeasure", lol.
I have to doff my hat to Kip - respect.
Jesus, fred, how gullible can one person be?

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artu
artu


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My BS sensor is tingling again
posted November 26, 2021 08:49 PM

Titanfall2020 said:
artu said:


People arent a threat to anything because they dont buy into your paranoid ramblings.


The patriarchy, Russian collusion, cops hunting down black men, Covid is like the Spanish Flu, white supremacists are prevalent, online misinformation is more concerning than state propaganda, Trump was trying to steal mailboxes, heteronormative social constructs

Again, a logical fallacy, whataboutism this time.

And George Floyd died of an overdose, first time I'm hearing that one. Why did the doctor in the court concluded he didnt then, what happened to "the law has spoken, they examined the evidence?"

It's amazing that wherever there's BS, it attracts you like a magnet.



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fred79
fred79


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posted November 26, 2021 08:58 PM
Edited by fred79 at 21:03, 26 Nov 2021.

JollyJoker said:
So Kip actually managed to persuade you of another conspiracy - "my group's hcm displeasure", lol.
I have to doff my hat to Kip - respect.
Jesus, fred, how gullible can one person be?


i don't know, you tell me.

cor's barely ever here. YOU explain how every time you guys and mine mix it up, he magically appears to deal out thread locks, penalties, and silences, always somehow managing to benefit your group.

also, kip has no sway over what i know. i'm my own man. what he said, i already knew, because of what i outlined above. that, and the fact i was targetted by the mods for REACTING to your kind, as well as having all the mods and val himself stop listening to my end of the story.

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Salamandre
Salamandre


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Wog refugee
posted November 26, 2021 09:03 PM

I would put my money artu doesn't bicker to Corribus, he is valiantly defending his points without chickening. I don't think JJ does that neither, but I am pretty sure Minion does it.
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JollyJoker
JollyJoker


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posted November 26, 2021 09:04 PM

Because you overstep the line? Repeatedly? Or is this all a conspiracy with cor being at the top of it?

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artu
artu


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My BS sensor is tingling again
posted November 26, 2021 09:05 PM
Edited by artu at 21:07, 26 Nov 2021.

@fred

Just because he doesnt sign in daily, doesnt mean he's not reading. And nobody except you got a penalty lately, except the marine guy, who was certainly not on your side.

We're not a group btw. I had pages of disagreement with JJ or Blizz, just like I had with Sal. But they were within limits of reason. It doesnt take a group to disagree with you, it takes minimum level of common sense.
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