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artu
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posted November 20, 2021 08:18 PM |
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If I remember that one right, the guy deliberately drove into a crowd during the BLM protests. So, I wouldnt call it an accident.
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posted November 20, 2021 08:19 PM |
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BRING PROOF. Attacking wiki isn't going to gain anything for your cause.
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posted November 20, 2021 08:21 PM |
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Yes, it is intentional, it wasnt BLM but something similar:
"A terror attack[10] was perpetrated on August 12, 2017, when James Alex Fields, Jr. deliberately drove his car into a crowd of people who were peacefully protesting the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, killing one and injuring 35.[4][11] The 20-year-old Fields had driven from Ohio to attend the rally.[12] Fields previously espoused neo-Nazi and white supremacist beliefs.[7] He was convicted in a state court for the first-degree murder of 32-year-old Heather Heyer, eight counts of malicious wounding, and hit and run, and was sentenced to life in prison plus an additional 419 years in July 2019.[13] He also pled guilty to 29 of 30 federal hate crime charges to avoid the death penalty, which resulted in another life sentence handed down in June 2019."
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Salamandre
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posted November 20, 2021 08:25 PM |
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Proof of what? That the United States president himself labeled Rittenhouse as white supremacist before any trial and now he looks like an idiot?
Here you go
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posted November 20, 2021 08:30 PM |
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Proof of these pearls of wisdom of yours;
Salamandre said:
Sure, I only affirm that statistics about far right terrorism are for sure rigged. For example, in JJ link, Charlottesville killing of a white woman by a white man (which wasn't even intentionally) is labeled as far right "and" white supremacist fact. If you look closely, you will surely find many other "extensions" of that kind so the whole right vs left terrorism is messed.
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Wiki is rigged as well, until the Rittenhouse process ended, he was labeled as "17 years old white supremacist" on wiki, its only now that they removed it.
It's a shame people being supposed to present objective reality use the wiki to express their agenda.
Okay?
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Salamandre
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posted November 20, 2021 08:38 PM |
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artu said:
Fields previously espoused neo-Nazi and white supremacist beliefs.[7]
They key point there is "7" which is the ONLY source presented to back his "neo-Nazi and white supremacist beliefs."
It turns out its a single interview with one of his teachers (look by yourself). No affiliations to any political movement proved, no manifesto, no self declarations before, moreover it was concluded during the trial that this was the first public event he ever participated.
I would say that's very slim, young people can say stupid things often, but where it becomes an agenda is when they join one movement or another then they become activists.
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posted November 20, 2021 08:47 PM |
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artu
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posted November 20, 2021 08:53 PM |
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Dont you think deliberately driving into a group of protesters is proof enough that his political views are extreme? The muslim guy that drove a truck into the crowd in France, do you ask for proof that he is a radical?
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Salamandre
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posted November 20, 2021 08:59 PM |
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I doubt the terrorist in Nice would have said this aftermath:
"According to Young, Fields kept apologizing and asked if anyone was injured. When Young told him that a person had died, Fields appeared shocked and started to cry."
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"Fields was prescribed an antipsychotic as anger management medication after he had been diagnosed with schizophrenia.[33][7] Fields told a judge that he was receiving treatment for bipolar disorder, anxiety, depression and attention deficit hyperactivity disorder"
I think Wikipedia and left medias are very quick to throw labels, when it is about one side.
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posted November 20, 2021 09:04 PM |
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So you can't be "right-wing" AND "dirordered"?
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artu
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posted November 20, 2021 09:23 PM |
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Edited by artu at 21:24, 20 Nov 2021.
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As I already said, it is expected to have mental disorders if you commit such crimes. And it's very understandable that you may feel regret once the "passion" of the moment is gone and you realize you just ruined your life. But 35 people injured, that is not a momentary impulse, the act was intentional and the target was political and I dont think wiki's classification is problematic in this case.
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posted November 20, 2021 09:41 PM |
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I am not defending what he did, just recalling there is a single witness affirming he was a Nazi, based on conversations they had when he was a teenager. Witness who never alerted the authorities at that time, but instead suddenly got under lights after the incident. That's slim for establishing a clear affiliation, a mobile + a Wikipedia final conclusion.
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posted November 20, 2021 09:56 PM |
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Well, even if he wasnt a Nazi, the act would still be a right-wing terror act, so the classification is still not problematic.
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posted November 20, 2021 10:14 PM |
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No. Terror attacks and killing people are not a part of right wing ideology, neither of far-right - as defined by today standards.
By that logic any antifa going to a protest and ending hurting someone should be labeled as left wing terror attack too. That was my point.
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posted November 20, 2021 10:17 PM |
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Not at all. Hurting AS MANY AS POSSIBLE.
Which is why the drive into a group of people. Terror sttack. Easy to understand.
You still gave no proof foe your claims.
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posted November 20, 2021 11:11 PM |
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Any ideology can have militant minded members deciding to kill. Some are more inclined to that such as jihad but it's naive to think far-right people will never kill. I cant find the fbi report again now but the actual reality is on the contrary.
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posted November 21, 2021 12:47 AM |
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Salamandre said:
Wiki is rigged as well, until the Rittenhouse process ended, he was labeled as "17 years old white supremacist" on wiki, its only now that they removed it.
It's a shame people being supposed to present objective reality use the wiki to express their agenda.
i caught that specifically while looking at the stats on "right-wing terrorism". the latest one they had actually claimed that the 2 perpetrators had not only attacked a government building, but that they TURNED THEMSELVES IN TO THE FEDS. typical of an actual anti-goverment terrorist, don't you think? to top that off, they had BLM snow decorating them. as per usual, when you're a "right-wing" terrorist.
and the one before that? a nutcase who was legally declared UNFIT for trial. rather easy to slap a label on a guy like that, huh?
wikipedia has been taken over by the opposition. they've already "updated" hundreds(if not thousands) of articles. pretty soon, "early life" won't even be something to observe and take note of, anymore. or at least, they'll remove any offending relation to a certain merchant tribe.
and all of this, WHY? because more and more people are catching on to what's going on, and the fact the globalists are behind it all. it's gone from being a conspiracy theory, to conspiracy FACT. and they're trying their damndest to remove the "VERIFIABLE" parts.
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posted November 21, 2021 02:13 AM |
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Edited by artu at 02:58, 21 Nov 2021.
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1- I havent said anything about the Rittenhouse verdict. I dont know all the details about the case but it seems like legit self-defense.
2- Just because most blacks vote left-wing, it doesnt make ordinary crimes commited by blacks left-wing terrorism. That's absurd. Gang shootings, robbery etc are not terrorism. Terrorism is when you have a political cause for killing. You commit the crime for the sake of creating terror so that your cause gets recognition. What you’re claiming is like saying most Texans vote right-wing so crimes commited by Texans are right-wing terrorism.
3- A mass shooting as in specific social phenomenon is when a lone gunman shoots at a crowd just for the sake of killing people. Again, gang wars etc. where bystanders get caught in the crossfire and more than 3 people dying is different. The type of mass shooters I'm referring to is almost always white.
4- I dont hate white people, I am white, ffs. Both in terms of looks and in social terms of being part of majority ethnic group where I live. Just because I dont deny racism exists,doesnt make me hate white people. You just love to victimize them so easily while blaming the minorities for doing the exact same thing.
5- Most rioters are also very young people and the ones who kill people would probably have mental disorders if you examine them. But it seems these are only excuses for one-side to you.
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posted November 21, 2021 02:38 AM |
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artu said:
1- I havent said anything about the Rittenhouse verdict. I dont know all the details about the case but it seems like legit self-dense.
this is where i stop reading. why are you in this thread, again?
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posted November 21, 2021 02:38 AM |
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Political Wikipedia was pronounced brain dead for me the moment they called Stefan Molyneux a white supremacist, by using as only reference Youtube staff feelings.
The guy whipped the floor with all journalists trying to frame him. They couldn't outmatch so they pulled lies until he was cancelled from everywhere.
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