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Heroes Community > Other Side of the Monitor > Thread: The "World religions"
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Baronus
Baronus


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posted February 14, 2022 09:57 AM

Poland ranks 24th within the EU in gender equality,

Ranking made by levidiots for dumbs.

I see that Poland is impossible to understand for foreigners.

All ranks Poland is the best:
violence

And its subjective! Woman in Poland wants higher standarts!

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artu
artu


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My BS sensor is tingling again
posted February 14, 2022 10:01 AM
Edited by artu at 10:02, 14 Feb 2022.

@JJ

Yeah, I agree with the tax thing, I thought that was just the U.S. (Some say that’s the reason L. Ron Hubbard came up with Scientology, to avoid taxes.) About the state religion thing, I always presumed it had a lot to do with symbolical monarchies, the monarchs also represent the church you know.

Turkey used to follow the French model, strict seperation of “church” and state. But it did backfire indeed. Of course, Islam is different, it is designed to be state religion and social law, so you have to be more alert around it.
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Kayna
Kayna


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posted February 15, 2022 12:43 AM

Religion is just a social construct. It is a group people can join to increase their rate of survival, because that's what individual social creatures do, they find a group to hide behind. Same as with any other groups out there, really.

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artu
artu


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My BS sensor is tingling again
posted February 15, 2022 10:40 AM

Yes, of course, it is a social construct but that’s not saying much, is it? Humans organize and form societies through such constructs. Anything a level up above a gorilla clan is a social construct. That’s how we exist. Some of the social constructs are good (human rights), some of them are not, at least not by today’s standards.
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husham123
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Yes
posted February 15, 2022 11:45 AM

JollyJoker said:
are just man-made ideologies to justify men oppressing women, an ideology that allowed half of humanity to oppress the other half. They are a disgrace. And their tenants are unconstitutional, at least in the 1st world.

We need to expose them for what they really are.


gr8 b8 m8, I rel8 str8 appreci8 and congratul8.

Jesus Christ, JJ.. Now you too ?

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phe
phe


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Life and Freedom
posted February 15, 2022 12:13 PM

religions were replaced by another religion of humanism...

humanoid creatures like troglodites started believing that they are humans despite of their behaviour non-indicating humanity like rudeness, lying, dishonesty, crime sexual abusement etc.

hardly they believed they are humans they made up stupid excuse to kill unborn innocent beings and started to make advantage of others by creating a lot of unnecessary clerks in red-tape, security and military who gave some money from others...making them dependant, creating taxes which impede enterprising, which created unemployment and making big business favourable...  

in time such creatures become unpunished and more important than honest people... liking criminals and sexual criminals, homosexual cliques, pedophilia, killing children in brothels for pedophiles, killing Syrian refugee children, political rudeness, supressed freedom of speach...reversed basic values...
this blind faith in being humans by these bad humanoid creatures can result in terrible political ideologies now and in future...
reversed values->reversed morality->reversed sexuality->ass to mouth fundamentalism....  

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gnomes2169
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posted February 15, 2022 12:18 PM

phe said:
humanoid creatures like troglodites started believing that they are humans despite of their behaviour non-indicating humanity

... Lizardmen confirmed?
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JollyJoker
JollyJoker


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posted February 15, 2022 12:51 PM

The effect of a male-dominated society. Which religion helped cement.

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Baronus
Baronus


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posted February 15, 2022 01:26 PM

Christianity is the best circumstance to peoples. You can see it on me.

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JollyJoker
JollyJoker


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posted February 15, 2022 02:57 PM

Christianity is like Judaism and Islam an ideology made by men for men. They all suck.

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Baronus
Baronus


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posted February 15, 2022 04:49 PM

Dont tell if you dont know. Both judaism and islam was made as opposite to christianity. If something is opposite cant be the same 'Elementary my dear Watson'

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JollyJoker
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posted February 15, 2022 06:00 PM

Yes, everyone knows that Christian religion came first.

Apart from that your point is nonsense. If three things share SOMETHING they can OBVIOUSLY still be quite different from each other.

Fact remains. All three are stories by men for men.

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phe
phe


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Life and Freedom
posted February 15, 2022 07:06 PM
Edited by phe at 19:11, 15 Feb 2022.

Monotheist religions were one and good at core of Genesis Book...then it has been only rotting and splitting into various religions...
Christianity wasn't better in anything than native Pagan believes in Poland and around... brought only sadness, illogicality (forgiving, liking bad people, sharing property with poor-ones regardless their being good or bad, showing other cheek for another hit from enemy), religious rudeness, foreign culture...
Christianity after nearly 2000 years resulted in red clone of it called communism...    

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JollyJoker
JollyJoker


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posted February 15, 2022 07:21 PM

It was never good at the core.

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antipaladin
antipaladin


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of Ooohs and Aaahs
posted February 15, 2022 09:44 PM

Baronus said:
Hahaha! You never was in Poland its good seing. Mary land.
In Poland woman opression is non known.
I donot negate woman opression in false religions. Its good known. But in true Church all is right.




except jadwiga , right?
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Kayna
Kayna


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posted February 16, 2022 08:01 PM

artu said:
Yes, of course, it is a social construct but that’s not saying much, is it?


It means that it's content doesn't really matter, that the only thing that matters is to join it to increase one's survival rate.

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JollyJoker
JollyJoker


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posted February 16, 2022 08:22 PM
Edited by JollyJoker at 21:02, 16 Feb 2022.

You are wrong. Social constructs increase the personal survival rate only for those who profit from them. And the amount of profit depends on the status or position in it.
To give an example, clearly the social construct that's re-established now in Afghanistan is clearly detrimental to the personal survival rate of all the women there.

Which translates into, yes, content DOES matter. Just because it's a "social construct" it's not untouchable.

EDIT: See?

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artu
artu


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My BS sensor is tingling again
posted February 17, 2022 02:48 AM

Kayna said:
artu said:
Yes, of course, it is a social construct but that’s not saying much, is it?


It means that it's content doesn't really matter, that the only thing that matters is to join it to increase one's survival rate.

Sometimes, I want to smack the snow out of you people.
You have a point Kip.
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Kayna
Kayna


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posted February 17, 2022 12:48 PM

Women don't have much of a choice, but they still do. They can comply to the religion or not. If they don't, like they don't wear the garbs required by the religion, then they can end up beaten, or similar. It increases their survival rate to comply and join the popular social construct than to not do so. It's just that the deal offered to them is more oppressive than the average social construct.

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JollyJoker
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posted February 17, 2022 04:14 PM

The question is whether a "religion" is actually normative or not as PART of a social construct - or, more precise, HOW normative how many parts of it are. That is, whether it's treated as a (personal) philosophy on one hand or a god(s)-given code of laws on the other.

If you want to see it this way, the point I was trying to make is that certain religions suck all the more so, the more normative they become. One reason is that they are made by men for men.

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