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posted September 26, 2022 11:02 PM
Edited by yogi at 23:05, 26 Sep 2022.

NimoStar said:
My friend has this conspiracy theory that Putin is a western agent (remember, he came with Yeltsin) and that he is losing the war on purpose.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Global_Leaders

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Article: Russia Vs. Ukraine Or Civil War In The West?

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posted September 27, 2022 05:23 AM

NimoStar said:
That is why Russia only started war with 100.000 soldiers having like 4/5 million reserve personnel.


your "friend" is wrong. it's not about west vs east, or left vs right, or whatever. I'VE done my research. have any of you(besides yogi, apparently; he knows what's up) done any? even MINIMAL research beyond the msm will tell you what's actually going on. just stop consuming social-engineering globalist-controlled mainstream media, and start checking things out for yourselves; and you(or in this case, your "friend") will come to the same conclusion. all the pieces of the puzzle are there; just put them the snow together. stop looking at the box the puzzle came in, and thinking that's the puzzle itself.

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posted September 27, 2022 09:53 AM
Edited by JollyJoker at 09:53, 27 Sep 2022.

yogi said:

Article: Russia Vs. Ukraine Or Civil War In The West?

Now, what could a highly controversial and disputed PSYCHOLOGIST who had himself treated against his drug addiction in Moscow, the treatment being 9 days in a coma on propofol, who is know to be anti-trans and anti-women, tell us about the Russo-Ukrainian War? Seriously...

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posted September 27, 2022 10:29 AM

refusing to address the first link at all shows that you obviously don't intend to argue in good faith. so what is the point of you even posting? bait to get people who stand against your globalist filth targeted again? or just to prove to everyone who reads your dreck that you're a coward who chooses something you actually have the possibility to refute?

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posted September 27, 2022 04:33 PM

I was waiting for voting says "NO". It doesn't mean Russia gets broken mind, but pretext is many. Russian law says protect Russian people. Ok in there majority is Russians, thus voting went to win. So "YES" is familiar to all us.

@NimoStar

I heard different way: Yeltsin is also.. He attacked Chechnya.. Russia is Russia, it must guessed earlier.. Another what? Russian people think 300.000 does losing, they think must be full mobilization.. Their feelings.. Even if one blogger said only 1% men goes to war.. So no worries.. When Russian men went to Georgia, etc

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posted September 27, 2022 09:46 PM

Uh, Jordan Peterson is not "controversial" at all, the media minority paint him so because every time they tried to corner him, he wiped the floor with them.

Then, on his health fragility, addiction or whatever, how is that a standard reading grid? Tons of creative figures in the past and present had often huge psychological problems and addictions, you can't portray the abysses tormenting humans if you never stared at them. Personally I don't listen to him anymore because he started a business using his verbosity then went also very mystical. But he is smart and all he says should be considered as common sense, in this foolish world.

And of course, JJ's lie that  Peterson is anti trans and anti women is a good example of intellectual laziness. Or just low IQ, to put it simply.
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posted September 27, 2022 10:09 PM
Edited by JollyJoker at 22:13, 27 Sep 2022.

Salamandre said:
And of course, JJ's lie that  Peterson is anti trans and anti women is a good example of intellectual laziness. Or just low IQ, to put it simply.
Two things: I don't lie. And if you want an example for low IQ I refer to your pearl of wisdom above:
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But he is smart and all he says should be considered as common sense, in this foolish world.
Even someone like you should get that just because someone is smart - something there can't be any doubt about in his case - that doesn't mean they are honest, right, of good intention or true and there is no reason whatsoever to consider everything someone says as common sense, smart or not.

And if you really think the guy isn't controversial and disputed you are indeed living in a foolish world although I'm afraid it's one you are pretty alone in.

Lastly, do you really think that the decision to cure an addiction by going to Moscow to be put in a nine-day coma (probably to avoid experiencing the withdrawal symptoms) is "common sense"?

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posted September 27, 2022 11:26 PM
Edited by Salamandre at 23:28, 27 Sep 2022.

JollyJoker said:
Two things: I don't lie.


Yes, you lie a lot. I challenge you to post  a single confirmed quote of Peterson where his words can be interpreted as "anti woman" or "anti trans" by someone with a decent IQ.

What is controversial in his debates? List some so we can check. Just because all the medias you carefully pick to listen parrot same thing doesn't mean they are the voice of the majority. Jordan Peterson, once you eliminate all the decorative verbosity, can be reduced to 3 cardinal things :

1) you are responsible of your acts.
2) Be a better person tomorrow than you were today, instead of being jealous of others.
3) Solve your personal problems before pretending reorganizing the world.

And about Moscow, what is your evidence that an hospital in Moscow is of less quality of any in the world?

Did he survive or die? Was he cured or not? Or you maybe still believe Russians are some inferior race, as your close ancestors? One would think a lesson has been learned, yet I see a lot of negative Pavlovian reflexes around, each time Russia is mentioned.
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posted September 28, 2022 08:11 AM

This is a nice article that says everything that is to be said. I may add that the anti-women part is in the "equality of income" denial (for one thing) because that women get less for the same work is a statistical fact. If you'd follow Peterson it would mean that the income gap is based on inferior work.
Which is the conclusion: With a view on Peterson's position on income equality, transgender rights and also climate change (he is basing his view on what Fred Singer says) you can conclude that Peterson actually isn't that smart because he talks a lot of crap, or he is and has ulterior motives, for example personal obsessions.
Salamandre said:
JollyJoker said:
Two things: I don't lie.

Yes, you lie a lot.
Just because all the medias you carefully pick to listen parrot same thing doesn't mean they are the voice of the majority. Jordan Peterson, once you eliminate all the decorative verbosity, can be reduced to 3 cardinal things :
1) you are responsible of your acts.
2) Be a better person tomorrow than you were today, instead of being jealous of others.
3) Solve your personal problems before pretending reorganizing the world.
That's quite funny YOU'd repeat that lying stuff when you reduce Peterson - probably born out of naivity - to someone doing nothing than come up with "three country sayings for making the world a better place". Which is utterly ridiculous.

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And about Moscow, what is your evidence that an hospital in Moscow is of less quality of any in the world?

Did he survive or die? Was he cured or not? Or you maybe still believe Russians are some inferior race, as your close ancestors? One would think a lesson has been learned, yet I see a lot of negative Pavlovian reflexes around, each time Russia is mentioned.
As could be expected you missed the point completely. He went to Moscow because he was unable to find doctors elsewhere who were prepared to treat him the way he wanted to. Went to Serbia after that. And he eats only beef and salt, by the way, the special Peterson diet (which are supposedly based on the ideas of his daughters).

Of course the real question was - and that's why I wrote PSYCHOLOGIST in my initial post - "What are Jordan B Peterson's credentials that make him an expert on the Russo-Ukrainian war?"

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posted September 28, 2022 12:32 PM

An external article about "what we think he thinks"? Why I am not surprised by your laziness.

What Peterson says is "the inequality of income men/women is due to multiple parameters", and there goes a very long list. What the mainstream does is attributing it to one parameter only, gender. And your "studies" are biased and done for political purposes, it has been proved million times. They pick 1000 women, 1000 men, ignore the individual quality of work, the specificity, the branch, the time spent, the results, but only compare the income then yell nonsense.

An example: in France, paying less a woman for same work is illegal. Mainstream keep saying this is happening on a large scale, yet in the last 10 years, no court case has been won on the matter, not a SINGLE one. Because there is none. When it came to prove that gender was the reason, they found it has nothing to do with.

And Peterson never said he is against equality of income, actually he acts like anyone else, with common sense, constantly saying that women and men should have same rights and income. Trying to find why there are still problems, by taking a different approach, by including the cultural  and biological parameters. NEVER claiming women are inferior by any means. How can anyone conclude that is "anti women", it puzzles me.

You lie, you caricature, because anything which requires a bit of thinking and going out of your comfort zone is just too much for you.
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posted September 28, 2022 01:18 PM
Edited by artu at 13:20, 28 Sep 2022.

The article does have some valid points. Cultural Marxism is a non-existent ideology and a joke. And of course, most of the things Peterson says isnt common sense. I even watched him saying illegalizing divorce for the sake of the children can be considered an option sometimes. He may sound reasonable while going against overzealous politically correct types but when you pair him with actual intellectuals such as Sam Harris or Zizek, you can easily realize most of his takes on a subject are usually superficial. He did have his moments going against Marxism during the Zizek debate though. And he can be interesting occasionally but his book is no good.

Also, like his mentor Jung, he puts way too much importance on religion but at least Jung had the the depth and integrity to do it with an anthropological approach studying all ancient religions, where as Peterson comes off as a Christian apologist most of the time. He doesnt directly consider the scriptures as literal truth, he is too crafty to do that and knows it would end his intellectual credibility instantly. But he behaves as if Christianity resulted in some universal, perfect moral code, where as the Western civilization he seems to consider a peak in humanity is historically unique in discrediting religion, not upholding it.
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posted September 28, 2022 01:36 PM

I fail to see how all that stuff is any evidence of Peterson being anti woman  and anti trans.
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posted September 28, 2022 01:44 PM

artu said:
I even watched him saying illegalizing divorce for the sake of the children can be considered an option sometimes.


And it makes sense the way the way he formulates it how that sounds wrong to you?

Parenting is a long long term responsibility, thats the point.
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posted September 28, 2022 01:48 PM

Well, nobody (if were not talking about the likes of Taliban etc.) claims women are inferior anymore Sal, anti-woman doesnt necasserily mean that. I dont think he is extremely anti-woman either. But he is more than eager to attack feminist arguments as a habit and he constantly praises the morality of times when women really were considered inferior.
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posted September 28, 2022 01:48 PM

I disagree with Peterson on many issues, like his take like postmodernists “don’t believe in biology” (of course he’s talking about trans and non-binary people here). Meh. Furthermore what is shocking that he truly doesn't understand Foucault (or other French philosophers) or misinterprets them.

But when I really have an issue with him is when he is talking about Ukraine-Russia war as being related to culture wars and identity politics of the West. Unbelievably stupid. That is pure cultural narcissism. I see some put way too much faith in people with some expertise on any field to have expertise in every field. His takes on war are basically worthless (as much as opinions can be worthless, in a sense that everyone has one). He should stick to the field what he knows about.
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posted September 28, 2022 01:59 PM
Edited by artu at 14:02, 28 Sep 2022.

Salamandre said:
artu said:
I even watched him saying illegalizing divorce for the sake of the children can be considered an option sometimes.


And it makes sense the way the way he formulates it how that sounds wrong to you?


Well, for starters, a couple who would have been divorced but remains together because the law forces them to, for the sake of a child, is not, and nothing even close to “the functioning family” he mentions to begin with. Such a forced concept can only work in a very traditional society where the modern individual hasnt developed yet.

And no matter how he sugarcoats it, forced marriage is against almost every earned civil right of the century. In today’s world, a state with such an act would be  -justifaibly- considered an authoritarian regime. The demograph would change accordingly.
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posted September 28, 2022 02:22 PM
Edited by Salamandre at 14:32, 28 Sep 2022.

@artu

The situation you describe is this : I want to divorce but they made a law yesterday which force me to remain in couple with someone I don't like anymore. Oh, btw, we also have a kid.

The one I see is : We decided to have a kid and we realize that from that cardinal step we will strive so all our decisions consider his interest first, then and only then ours as individuals or couple.

This is just making philosophical circles on important life aspects, family, parenting, relation to work, gender, individual responsibility and such.  There is nothing controversial in trying to look from more than one angle and considering new parameters. You also say "he is not extremely anti woman", which means he IS somewhat, while the only argument you give is him disagreeing with radical feminists. Are you kidding?

That for you this makes someone suddenly "anti" is mind boggling to me. Beside, there is a huge appetite worldwide for a totally free market of ideas. People are tired and irritated by the constant totalitarian one truth hammering : Putin bad, change sex good, immigration always good, men oppressors, history patriarchal etc.  
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posted September 28, 2022 02:36 PM

That was an example of him not making common sense if you remember, I havent called him anti this or that for it. That being said, I can understand if this gets more reaction from women, since we know in such a marrige most of the time most burden of the kid will be dealt by the mother.

Salamandre said:
The one I see is : We decided to have a kid and we realize that from that cardinal step we will strive so all our decisions consider his interest first, then and only then ours as individuals or couple.

But that has nothing to do with laws, it is still your initiative. They specifically ask him, if he is talking about personal decisions or the law and he replies why shouldnt the law protect the children.
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posted September 28, 2022 03:07 PM

What you do is take an interrogation (should the law ALSO consider children's interest within a divorce, which is ALL that he says) then claim he is for a law illegalizing the divorce.

Well, you see the problem...

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posted September 28, 2022 05:18 PM

Salamandre said:
An external article about "what we think he thinks"? Why I am not surprised by your laziness.


Fits fine to you presenting what YOU think he thinks.

Fact is, his field of knowledge as a psychologist doesn't mean his opinion is in any way more qualified as ANYONE ELSE's. Which means presenting HIM as some "authority" on the issue is nonsensical.

And since you are so keen on facts: The gender gap
Just for the sake of the current issue, in Russia it's 30-35%.
USA is about the same as Germany where it's higher than EU average (and France as well).
Worldwide? Japan is about 25%, surpassed by South Korea. And those are obviously very advanced countries compared to, say, India...

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