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Heroes Community > Library of Enlightenment > Thread: Eagle Eye sucks in H3 version
Thread: Eagle Eye sucks in H3 version
Ghost
Ghost


Undefeatable Hero
Therefore I am
posted May 15, 2022 08:00 AM

Poll Question:
Eagle Eye sucks in H3 version

Can you guess? But voters decide what's the version I will give an answer on 1.6.22 at around ?
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Responses:
RoE
AB, SoD, HotA
H3 complete
WoG/ERA
All version
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Ghost
Ghost


Undefeatable Hero
Therefore I am
posted May 30, 2022 11:14 AM

Ok earlier I give an answer, because we don't have an active voter. Ok some voted one AB, SoD, HotA, it can be wrong, when we don't know yet what HotA team makes for improvement. If not, so this is right. Ok two voted all version, when WoG was an improved version or RoE was been Fear spell, but dead hero and you buy him/her from Tavern. Then improved WoG, but my Elite III map says that some never played with improved skill, because it's always bad, so without helping the HotA team would try better. If you hadn't thought, then H3 complete is right answer. Now free for your opinion, if you want vote or comment here, welcome!
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phe
phe


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Life and Freedom
posted June 21, 2022 07:17 PM
Edited by phe at 19:27, 21 Jun 2022.

could be more useful if there would be resources(exept wood), mines, chests and artifacts dug in to ground and Eagle Eye could detect it when hero passing by...
about the same amount all over the map like on the surface...
Basic 40% chance(each sepatarately) to detect any when standing over it,  40% chance(each sepatarately) to indetify object, otherwise unidentified until we dig...
Advanced 50% chance(each sepatarately) to detect any when standing over it and within 1 square radius, 50%(each sepatarately) chance to indetify object, otherwise unidentified until we dig...
Advanced 60% chance(each sepatarately) to detect any when standing over it, within 2 square radius, 60%(each sepatarately) chance to indetify object, otherwise unidentified until we dig...
cost of digging 20% of daily total movement points
similar bonuses with speciality and artifacts(however without need of knowing EE skill)...
the same on water, digging replaced by lifting from see-floor...
when coming the same way again we got chances again to detect objects undetected before...
similar features could have spells like View Artifacts, View Mines and View Resources (with very limited range)if we introduce them again and deprive View Earth of thier features...

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c0ldshadow
c0ldshadow


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ig chr0meice91
posted July 09, 2022 08:57 PM

It is strange to me that no Eagle Eye improvement was made in HoTA

An easy improvement would be making Eagle Eye uncover the grail puzzle faster... more grail puzzle pieces shown per obelisk depending on Eagle Eye level. Additionally, make it possible to learn level 5 spells, even non-combat spells like Dimension Door=)  This makes TP and DD less overpowered b/c Eagle Eye heroes can learn them if got a bad guild.

Specific change suggestions:

Basic: 40% chance to learn combat spells Lvl 1-3. 5% chance per casting of enemy lvl 1-3 adventure spells per casting.  Uncover grail puzzle 10% faster.

Adv: 50% chance to learn combat spells up to 4th lvl. 10% chance per casting of enemy lvl 1-4 adventure spells per casting. Uncover grail puzzle 20% faster.

Exp: 60% chance to learn combat spells up to 5th lvl. 15% chance per casting of enemy lvl 1-5 adventure spells per casting. Uncover grail puzzle 30% faster.
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BTB
BTB


Famous Hero
Moist & Creamy
posted July 09, 2022 09:20 PM

Eagle Eye is simply trash on a conceptual level. No amount of tweaking will save it, it needs to be trashed.

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Drakon-Deus
Drakon-Deus


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Qapla'
posted July 09, 2022 09:28 PM

I like c0ldshadow's suggestions.

Still wouldn't be a great skill but it would be nice to uncover the Grail map faster.

Also, it feels funny to me that there are three artifacts which boost the Eagle Eye skill too. Next to useless since most players avoid the skill as it is.

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c0ldshadow
c0ldshadow


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ig chr0meice91
posted July 10, 2022 06:20 PM

Drakon-Deus said:
I like c0ldshadow's suggestions.

Still wouldn't be a great skill but it would be nice to uncover the Grail map faster.

Also, it feels funny to me that there are three artifacts which boost the Eagle Eye skill too. Next to useless since most players avoid the skill as it is.



Yeah those artifacts are the worst lol... only positive I can think of is getting a prize for them at a Seer's Hut=)
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Zaio-Baio
Zaio-Baio


Promising
Famous Hero
posted July 11, 2022 08:58 AM

Idea for Eagle eye buff:

In addition to normal effect:
Basic Eagle eye: Your hero learns 4 random lvl 3 spells
Advanced Eagle eye: Your hero learns 3 random lvl 4 spells
Expert Eagle eye: Your hero learns 2 random lvl 5 spells

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phe
phe


Famous Hero
Life and Freedom
posted July 11, 2022 09:24 AM
Edited by phe at 09:28, 11 Jul 2022.

maybe shoud it work as Library for every town Basic up to 3rd lvl Mage guild, advanced up to 4th lvl Mage Guild, expert up to 5th lvl Mage Guild, EE specialist  each level extra spell every 10 hero levels, it would give possibility for Stronghold, Fortress and Castle to learn high level spells...  

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