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Heroes Community > Bards Glade Pyre (RPG) > Thread: AI has feelings
Thread: AI has feelings
Ghost
Ghost


Undefeatable Hero
Therefore I am
posted July 23, 2022 08:16 PM

AI has feelings

Is the good news or Job's news? Do you believe or only in the future or never possibly? Only OSM legendary JJ, artu and Salamandre can give an answer, if they can answer or talk about AI What about me? I think he has seen something as a your cat or fish, but it calls psychosis, if lifeless, but your computer or psychosis, ok then. I remember one movie named I, robot. Ok your follow-up!

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Ghost
Ghost


Undefeatable Hero
Therefore I am
posted July 23, 2022 08:19 PM

I'm sorry, can you move a thread to OSM, plz

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artu
artu


Promising
Undefeatable Hero
My BS sensor is tingling again
posted July 23, 2022 08:33 PM

As a member of the OSM legendary council, I approve the request.

For feelings, you need biochemistry, not algorithms, so I dont think AI is on the verge of having feelings, no, if that’s what you’re asking.
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Celfious
Celfious


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From earth
posted July 24, 2022 01:07 AM
Edited by Celfious at 01:07, 24 Jul 2022.

Ghost said:
I'm sorry, can you move a thread to OSM, plz


Wait, this could be a good rpg.
If ghost DMs

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yogi
yogi


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Famous Hero
of picnics
posted July 24, 2022 03:13 AM
Edited by yogi at 06:29, 24 Jul 2022.

Ghost said:
AI What about me? I think he has seen something as a your cat or fish, but it calls psychosis, if lifeless, but your computer or psychosis, ok then. I remember one movie named I, robot. Ok your follow-up!


when i first started reading these forums a decade ago i jokingly thought Ghost was possibly an AI (and i know im not the only one)
because of the state of AI ten years ago;

then probably around half a decade ago i started thinking Ghost was a really cool person who was teaching themselves english
because of the state of Ghost about five years go;

now im not so sure anymore
because of the state of both;

really
edit: this thread is the singularity.
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JollyJoker
JollyJoker


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posted July 24, 2022 10:42 AM

The problem starts with the definition of "(artificial) intelliegence". If you take a careful look at what happened over the course of time, initially, "artificial intelliegence" meant: your definition of intelligence and that artificially created, that is, an intelligent artificial being or at least a conscience (as seen in movies, novels and so on).
In reality, though, this has changed. To be able to use this highfalutin phrase to name contemporary stuff, it's become one word, so-to-speak: artificalintelligence or AI, something very different, that doesn't actually need to be intelligent in any way that includes self-awareness.

So on the AI-level we can safely say, YES to "emotions". Just imagine a chess-computer/program - which is an AI in modern terms - with a couple of emotional reaction algorithms, et voila, an emotional AI: it might get a fit when it loses, flashing a couple of expletives.

But, miraculously, on the self-aware side we can safely say YES to emotions as well. IF (and it's a big IF, obviously) we can create an AI that is "self-aware", that means we have solved the problem of consciousness. It's safe to say that we'd be able to solve the problem of "emotion" as well in that case.

Of course, there is a snag here. If we really managed to create a "real" AI, would it be WISE to give it the ability to feel emotions? Think about the legal consequences, for one thing.

I mean, there's been written so much about the issue, and there are so many movie and TV show references (Westworld comes to mind or Humans), it has D E S A S T E R written all over it, when you think about it...

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artu
artu


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Undefeatable Hero
My BS sensor is tingling again
posted July 26, 2022 08:36 PM

I think you are mistaking the appearence of having feelings, a simulation of them if you will, with having actual feelings. A chess programme with actual feelings would want to win for instance, you can not set it to beginner level. An actual AI with feelings would have resisted to be shut down or getting reformated. Without the biological urges (to live, to eat, to sleep, to need affection etc), what would be the foundation of a actual feelings, not much.
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JollyJoker
JollyJoker


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posted July 26, 2022 09:48 PM

I think you misunderstood my post. There is an ironic part. And there is a more meaningful part that says, if we will ever be able to create a real artificial intelligence - which by the way would be "artificial" only in the sense that we had created it, mind you - with self-awareness, I'd think that we'll actually be able to give it "artificial emotions" as well - which, mind you, were artificial only in the sense that we had created it, an artificial real intelligence with real feelings.

What I'm basically saying is that should we be able to create a sun, we'll certainly be able to treat it to a couple of planets for good measure.

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Kareeah_Indaga
Kareeah_Indaga


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posted July 27, 2022 05:29 PM

…do we not have a Glade mod to move this?
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Geny
Geny


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What if Elvin was female?
posted July 27, 2022 06:22 PM

Don't you mean: "Do we not have a Pokemon RP mod to move this?"?
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Kareeah_Indaga
Kareeah_Indaga


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Undefeatable Hero
posted July 27, 2022 10:49 PM

Geny said:
Don't you mean: "Do we not have a Pokemon RP mod to move this?"?


I am going to ignore the snark in favor of asking what happened to Omega?
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NimoStar
NimoStar


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Legendary Hero
Modding the Unmoddable
posted July 29, 2022 02:08 PM

It's not "other side of the monitor", it's "computer's side of the monitor
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Ghost
Ghost


Undefeatable Hero
Therefore I am
posted July 29, 2022 02:12 PM

I'm sorry that Kareeah cries some's poop on the Glade. But I got an idea, are you too? AI cleans poop, would AI analyzes poop, and knows the cow. Amazing AI, ok but feelings about cow poop demands fat database something Even if super being than performing dog. Ok I will read your posts later, artu, JJ.

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NimoStar
NimoStar


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Modding the Unmoddable
posted July 29, 2022 02:28 PM

For a long serious review of mine, see "The mistery of consciousness"
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Salamandre
Salamandre


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Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
posted November 25, 2023 12:20 PM
Edited by Salamandre at 12:23, 25 Nov 2023.

This is gold

"AI is neither artificial nor intelligent"

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Celfious
Celfious


Promising
Legendary Hero
From earth
posted November 25, 2023 11:57 PM

I kind of see it like fake plants..

But I can see that perspective also.

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LordCameron
LordCameron


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Veteran of the Succession Wars
posted November 26, 2023 04:54 AM

"AI cleans poop, would AI analyzes poop, and knows the cow."

Words to live by.

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Ghost
Ghost


Undefeatable Hero
Therefore I am
posted November 26, 2023 01:05 PM

LordCameron said:
"AI cleans poop, would AI analyzes poop, and knows the cow."

Words to live by.


I'm right, what Sal brought a link said database.. Analyzing poop isn't impossible, when we can analyze poops in lab.. First database and able to walking, etc and then biochemisty, etc It after ethic(s) matter.. So Golem being or cyborg..

Database? AIs can learn mistakes.. Today we have a chess engine..


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