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Thread: New Modder! Question about artifact placements
DmanRangerD
DmanRangerD

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posted August 23, 2022 06:46 AM
Edited by DmanRangerD at 06:48, 23 Aug 2022.

New Modder! Question about artifact placements

Concerning all artifacts in game, when you open the Map Property window, and navigate to the tab "Artifacts" and check/decheck the specific boxes for specific selections; does this in fact effect ALL artifacts on the map? All Artifacts in "Random Artifact" placements (lil blue boxes)? All Town center Artifact dealers? All the green wagon Artifact merchants? Any other source of random artifacts I haven't thought of?

Are all these decided, controlled by Map Property Window, Artifacts tab?

Also, does this effect artifacts specifically placed?

So I'm asking cause I want to limit how many Dragon set artifacts their are on map, maybe one set total? So If I place all 8 dragon pieces specifically, and I UNCHECK those 8 pieces on the Map Property Window, Artifacts list? Will that ensure these WILL NOT show up on merchants, towns, or "random" placements?

Thanks in kind!
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posted August 23, 2022 07:28 AM
Edited by dredknight at 07:28, 23 Aug 2022.

if all artifacts are unchecked game will use all of them for the specific map. Otherwise it will use only the one checked.

Try to test it - Check one artifact and place multiple random ones. Go in game and see what happens!
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DmanRangerD
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posted August 23, 2022 08:12 AM

dredknight said:
if all artifacts are unchecked game will use all of them for the specific map. Otherwise it will use only the one checked.

Try to test it - Check one artifact and place multiple random ones. Go in game and see what happens!


Thank you. I shall try that. As for all, I will likely have some checked, and some not. I don't mind various minor, and other Major (not the dragon) being randomized around map.

However, I've more or less got artifacts already placed in various area, and though still much wide open to work with, idk if i wanna mess anything up on the current. i might run tests on another map though, which has no artifacts. What's good for one, good for all, right?
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Elvin
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posted August 23, 2022 05:25 PM

You should know that if there are fewer relics on the map compared to the artifact merchants, the game will start spawning by order of placement on the map until it runs out. So if you allow 3 relics on the map and place 6 merchants, the last 3 merchants that were placed on the mao will not spawn relics. Don't ask xD
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DmanRangerD
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posted August 24, 2022 01:53 AM

Elvin said:
You should know that if there are fewer relics on the map compared to the artifact merchants, the game will start spawning by order of placement on the map until it runs out. So if you allow 3 relics on the map and place 6 merchants, the last 3 merchants that were placed on the mao will not spawn relics. Don't ask xD


THAT... is insanely stupid!? lol! Wow!

So, to that end, the only real artifacts I would want to limit? Would be the Dragon set, the (8x piece combo). So, maybe one complete set scattered in 4-5 different locations, though not sure how I'd divide that! lol!
If possible, I may limit some of the other sets as well, or leave those open, I don't know. lol. But by limit, I  mean, if I Uncheck those 8x dragon piece artifacts in the Map Properties window, those will NOT show up anywhere on map; Town, Merchants, or random placements on map? Is this correct? All those checked, will be allowed among any of these?

Thus, will this allow me to limit those specific placements to those I preset (instead of placing a Random Major Artifact placement box, I'll place 1 each of the dragon pieces around the map? So when all said an done, ONLY 1 full set of the dragon set will be available for those 6 players, and the heroes they play? YES, I want them all fighting for the strength of a dragon!!
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Elvin
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posted August 24, 2022 12:39 PM

If not ticked, they don't appear. If your issue is set bonus, you can reduce or negate the set bonus in defaultstats.xdb.
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DmanRangerD
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posted August 24, 2022 01:54 PM
Edited by DmanRangerD at 13:55, 24 Aug 2022.

Elvin said:
If not ticked, they don't appear. If your issue is set bonus, you can reduce or negate the set bonus in defaultstats.xdb.


No. You answered my question. I want the set bonus. I want to make sure those few I want limited, stay limited. I don't want one randomly showing up later in game, especially the Dragon set! Yes. I expect one Hero will eventually get all 8 pieces, and he'll be the one OP on map everyone wants to kill. But to get that, they'll have to all fight each other! That's my intention anyway. Mainly I just wanted to make sure they stay limited, or off map, except what I place.

And to be even more EVIL fun with those 8? I might make those 8 "Non Transferable"! So heroes can't trade those 8 Dragon pieces among their own race. If I recall, they still transfer to heroes when one is defeated in battle, the victor still gets the "Non transferable" piece, but he can't give it to another of his own! That's my intention!

ANOTHER question. Can I make Any artifact Buried? Or is it just the Asha (Grail) which gets buried?

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Elvin
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posted August 24, 2022 08:55 PM

I don't think so..
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posted August 25, 2022 02:30 AM

Elvin said:
I don't think so..


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posted August 27, 2022 08:41 AM

In h4 YOU CAN BURY ANYTHING : )
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