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ArdentWyrm
ArdentWyrm


Famous Hero
King of the Elder Dragons
posted November 21, 2022 07:44 PM
Edited by ArdentWyrm at 00:28, 22 Nov 2022.

Heroes 8 ultimate ideas thread

This is a thread for anyone's/everyone's HoMM8 idea/vision or custom lineups.
Here are a few links to existing HoMM8 ideas:
Rimgrabber's vision for HoMM8 part 1
Rimgrabber's vision for HoMM8 part 2
lizardwizard's vision/ideas for HoMM8
ArdentWyrm's HoMM8 idea
Damacon_Ace's HoMM8 idea
PS: I didn't include Kogwin's HoMM8 idea because whenever I click on its link, it appears to be a broken link.
I also have a new incomplete HoMM8 vision here, please do not edit it.
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Alon
Alon


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posted November 24, 2022 12:11 AM

When I click on your Google Doc, it says access is denied.

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ArdentWyrm
ArdentWyrm


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King of the Elder Dragons
posted November 24, 2022 10:37 PM

Alon said:
When I click on your Google Doc, it says access is denied.

I sent shared the doc with you, so now you should be able to access it, just check your email or whatever sharing sends notifications to.
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Alon
Alon


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posted November 25, 2022 05:30 AM

That's not my Gmail, I sent a request for sharing from my Gmail.

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MattII
MattII


Legendary Hero
posted November 25, 2022 10:06 AM

Maybe add a general view/comment link?

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ArdentWyrm
ArdentWyrm


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King of the Elder Dragons
posted November 25, 2022 07:18 PM
Edited by ArdentWyrm at 19:39, 25 Nov 2022.

Alon said:
That's not my Gmail, I sent a request for sharing from my Gmail.

I shared the doc with your request, alon.
MattII said:
maybe add a general view/comment link?


I dunno what you mean by that.
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MattII
MattII


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posted November 25, 2022 08:45 PM

When you open the 'share' menu, there's a section that says 'anyone with this link'. Go there and select view, comment or edit. Then copy and paste the link.

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ArdentWyrm
ArdentWyrm


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King of the Elder Dragons
posted November 25, 2022 11:57 PM
Edited by ArdentWyrm at 21:11, 28 Nov 2022.

did that. It should work now.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HxGk_b2aw5kVPa4VxlP4nccBSe-Z_2NqYQaO4OwUKMA/edit?usp=sharing
remember this thread is not only for my stuff, it's for anyone's HoMM8 idea or a discussion place for anyone's HoMM8 idea.

Anyone here?, I do not want another dead thread.
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MattII
MattII


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posted November 29, 2022 03:59 AM

How many sub-skills are you allowed to pick? Just one?

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Drakon-Deus
Drakon-Deus


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Qapla'
posted November 29, 2022 07:35 AM

Isometric view is a must for me.

And no corny story with the likes of Queen Isabel.
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MattII
MattII


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posted November 29, 2022 08:58 AM
Edited by MattII at 09:00, 29 Nov 2022.

Well we had three games without isometric view, so I'm not sure it's critical. An isometric grid on a square map though, that was a damned terrible decision. Above all, the grid must map the orientation of the map.

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Drakon-Deus
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Qapla'
posted November 29, 2022 09:40 AM

MattII said:
Well we had three games without isometric view, so I'm not sure it's critical. An isometric grid on a square map though, that was a damned terrible decision. Above all, the grid must map the orientation of the map.


Good points.
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ArdentWyrm
ArdentWyrm


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King of the Elder Dragons
posted November 30, 2022 02:03 AM
Edited by ArdentWyrm at 17:44, 30 Nov 2022.

MattII said:
How many sub-skills are you allowed to pick? Just one?

the way it works is when you get a skill and you level up you have a chance to be able to select a sub-skill, which advances depending on the advancement of the skill that it's associated with, but to answer your question you can have all three sub-skills of a skill on your hero.
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MattII
MattII


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posted November 30, 2022 09:23 PM
Edited by MattII at 21:29, 30 Nov 2022.

Okay, one issue with your proposal, Healing is always going to be a weak skill because the First Aid Tents is so weak (in H3 it has 75 hp and no defence, and in H5 it climbs slightly to 100 hp, vs the ballista, which is H3 has 10 defence, and 250 hp, and in H5 5 defence and 250 hp). The only way you can make the skill half-way decent is by including a factor independent of the tent.

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ArdentWyrm
ArdentWyrm


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King of the Elder Dragons
posted November 30, 2022 11:14 PM
Edited by ArdentWyrm at 00:38, 01 Dec 2022.

nah, I'll just leave it weak, there needs to be some weak skills.
By the way, not too long ago an "anonymous dinosaur" was reading my doc, do you think that might be you?
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MattII
MattII


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posted December 01, 2022 12:56 AM

A shield on the FATent (if it's akin to the Arcane Armour spell of Heroes 5) would certainly help.

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ArdentWyrm
ArdentWyrm


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King of the Elder Dragons
posted December 01, 2022 12:58 AM
Edited by ArdentWyrm at 22:48, 02 Dec 2022.

OK, will do now, and provide war machine stats.
Actually, I changed my mind, instead the healing tent can resurrect at expert level.
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Alon
Alon


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posted December 03, 2022 02:08 AM

Okay, some feedback.

Some nitpicks

1. What is the valkyrie? Is it just a flying rider?
2. What's the source of the salamander? And why is the salamander distinct from the fire elemental, when historically the texts about elementals identified the two?
3. Is the illithid just a caster unit like the mage and such?
4. Why is an untamed cyclops better than a regular cyclops?

General question

How do the armies fight? In other words, what about the fighting style of (say) the stronghold other than the unit names tells the players "these are barbarians"?

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NimoStar
NimoStar


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Modding the Unmoddable
posted December 03, 2022 03:52 PM

0/10

Lacks my thread which has seven pages

http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=43875
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Ghost
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posted December 03, 2022 06:08 PM

..also my thread When WoG/ERA can be realized

http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=47579
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