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Ghost
Undefeatable Hero
Therefore I am
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posted November 21, 2025 07:03 PM |
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Poll Question:
Necromancy
What is the best? Remember Necromancy is always problem, when Number of creatures in killed stacks, Amount of health of killed stacks, Level of Necromancy skill, and other Amount of Necromancy Amplifiers, etc H4 seems the best, but Vampire can be OP.. Important and interesting fact in SoD, AI can raise more Liches, esp. in 2Friends and Dejavu Dreality.. - or I remember other maps poorly, thus AI can't build a combined artifact, etc But first time and game I met a hero in 2Friends, I lost to the battlefield, when Cure and Dispel were missing, so enemy hero reached a legion of Liches, but I continued to join Imps, I remember that 100k of Imps, my bro said enough.. Crazy! You know that is Necromancy.. In RoE, I remember yet, AI reached 1m of Skeletons, but AI put in a garrison, and it went minus.. Only I needed Magic Arrow to kill 1m of Skeletons without negative experience points.. A normal H3 complete, AI raised only one Skeleton in the same map.. This is story and fact, but what is the best?!?
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bloodsucker
Legendary Hero
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posted November 22, 2025 08:07 AM |
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Suggestion: there is Google Translator now, write your commentaries in your own language, make sure they are understandable and make sense, then auto-translate them.
Not understanding what Ghost said is becoming old...
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Phoenix4ever
Legendary Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
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posted November 22, 2025 08:39 AM |
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Yeah that or we need a ghost whisperer or spiritbox perhaps.
On topic: I think I prefer the HotA version.
H4 version is cool, but probably even more OP.
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Ghost
Undefeatable Hero
Therefore I am
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posted November 24, 2025 08:17 AM |
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Phoenix4ever said:
Yeah that or we need a ghost whisperer or spiritbox perhaps.
On topic: I think I prefer the HotA version.
H4 version is cool, but probably even more OP.
Cool and OP? When you killed a legion of monsters, and you get 3 Vampires, if your hero is lvl 20.. I got 7 Vampires!? I can't sure.. When MP, you can't get to high lvl.. Only mapmaker gives to you.. Maybe not - I played against computer.. A very many years ago I played against bro.. But impossible, IMO, when fast tempo, you kill all monsters, etc So how to get a Vampire due to other player also killed monsters.. Lvl 20 is so much..
Yes HotA, when you practice 2500 skeletons by law or golden rule or advanced SoD gets Liches..
Free thoughts.. Not verifed..
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Phoenix4ever
Legendary Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
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posted November 24, 2025 08:28 AM |
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Well it's been a very long time since I played H4 Ghost, so I don't exactly remember, but making higher tier creatures automatically could easily get out of hand, I think.
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weilan
Known Hero
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posted November 24, 2025 09:18 AM |
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While I don't enjoy playing "evil" factions like Necropolis, Inferno and Dungeon, I get to fight against them so I can say from personal experience that there are two answers to this:
1. The original is good if you're playing single player, because it's imbalanced and can be fun to fight a powerful Necromancer as your enemy.
2. But if you play against other people, and ranked, the HoTA variant is better, because it's more fair.
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phe
Famous Hero
Life and Freedom
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posted November 24, 2025 01:44 PM |
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Edited by phe at 13:46, 24 Nov 2025.
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Basic: 10% Skeletons
Advanced: 10% Skeletons and 10% Walking Deads
Expert: 15 % Skeletons and 10% Walking Deads and 5% Wights(when there are Dragons, Horses-like and creatures which usually can be transformed into Liches with use of Sacrifacial Dagger then undead version instead of Wights)
and movement points penalty depending on total HP raised...
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Ghost
Undefeatable Hero
Therefore I am
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posted November 24, 2025 03:49 PM |
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@weilan
When I was young to play maximize with Death Knights or Necromancers.. An average can/would be 500k Skeletons in the Illusion world 2.. Boring! Note in Necropolis Growth (H4 WoW version), so I know better number.. So other allies are funnier..
HotA is a good version.. You destroy all monsters, an opponent can't grow so much.. But the same boring that is always fast tempo and busy.. If we can play the Long Live the King (RoE campaign) in HotA.. It realizes easily in mapeditor.. Another the Skeleton transformer, if you use a Dilpomacy, Towns, Dwellings, and maybe Demons.. But HotA searches for loopholes, and to develop better version.. Thus rule.. No one wanted to lose a game..
Just free thoughts..
@phe
Maybe I remember.. But your own version.. An original phe.. Remember that Necropolis uses an Earth, and then Water, thus Teleport, Clone.. If no maximum, and then Air or Fire.. So Walking Deads are also dangerous.. When was the last time you played with large amount of Zombies?!?
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Gremlinking
Tavern Dweller
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posted November 25, 2025 06:53 PM |
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I vote with "hota". In original game it is too powerful. Now in hota it is still good - but you can loose. Personally I would wish, necromancy wouldn't be a bit weaker while access to lv. 6 and 7 would be easier. Another problem is the ridicolous op-status of vampyre lords.
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Syth1984
Adventuring Hero
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posted November 26, 2025 07:12 AM |
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phe said:
Basic: 10% Skeletons
Advanced: 10% Skeletons and 10% Walking Deads
Expert: 15 % Skeletons and 10% Walking Deads and 5% Wights(when there are Dragons, Horses-like and creatures which usually can be transformed into Liches with use of Sacrifacial Dagger then undead version instead of Wights)
and movement points penalty depending on total HP raised...
Yes I agree with that. Ghosts are a bit bummer if you cannot replenish the ranks. Also walking Deads are terrible.
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Ghost
Undefeatable Hero
Therefore I am
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posted November 27, 2025 10:54 PM |
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An example of HoMM personality, when your creature points, attacker, defender, if you are defender, so your creature points.. And then max search depth, pondering, etc I'm chess player, I've a chessmaster 9000, etc Those are the same philosophy.. Another what? If player can't beat the map, thus bad personality.. No style has succeeded..  I recommend to fix your style.. If you want winner..No listening is eternal noob in the chess world..
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