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phoenix4ever
Legendary Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
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posted November 21, 2025 10:37 PM |
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Setting up Armageddon
Hi guys
I was just wondering about Armageddon.
How often is this spell actually used in game?, and is it (almost) only used with Fire Immune creatures?
In HotA the effect of Protection from X spells was increased from 30/30/50/50% to 50/50/75/75%.
That means you could theoretically cast Expert Protection From Fire and in the next round Armageddon.
You would then only receive 25% damage on your units. But does anyone ever do this or does the Protection From Fire cast feel like a wasted spell cast?
Or should Protection From Fire protect even more than 75% for it to be a viable strategy?
I am looking forward to hearing your thoughts. 
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AlexSpl
Responsible
Supreme Hero
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posted November 22, 2025 04:55 PM |
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Edited by AlexSpl at 18:02, 22 Nov 2025.
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Armageddon can be useful even if you don't have any protection from it. Say, you battle against a powerful spellcaster with 7 weak stacks that you will hardly destroy in the next couple of rounds with your troops or magic. But this spellcaster, say, can cast Implosion every round at your precious stack of Ancient Behemoths. In that case, it's wise to cast Armageddon or two to save them from having major losses.
Also, if you're sure, that your enemy has artifacts and you can win a battle within a round with Armageddon, do it, as it might flee.
And, Armageddon is a good farewell if you are to flee yourselves. Just try to do all the maths before 
Sometimes it's welcome if you are having a siege against fully built castle with not so many defenders and with painful damage from arrow turrets. But those situations require precise calculations. With Armageddon you may end up having less losses.
As a suggestion, it would be nice to have a feature from the King's Bounty, where you can cast a spell at its lower level spending less mana. It would allow you to minimize your own losses in such situations.
You could develop the above idea even further. Say, you cast Magic Arrow which can do 50 dmg at a stack that has less than 50 HP. It would be nice if the game returned you extra mana automatically (spending it proportionally to the actual damage).
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Phoenix4ever
Legendary Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
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posted November 22, 2025 06:04 PM |
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Thanks Alex
Yeah Arma could have other uses as well, though you need to calculate and eat some losses yourself, as you said.
It would be great with an option to cast spells at lower levels, it could also be useful with Advanced/Expert Dispel for example.
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AlexSpl
Responsible
Supreme Hero
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posted November 22, 2025 06:13 PM |
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Edited by AlexSpl at 18:20, 22 Nov 2025.
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Quote:
You could develop the above idea even further. Say, you cast Magic Arrow which can do 50 dmg at a stack that has less than 50 HP. It would be nice if the game returned you extra mana automatically (spending it proportionally to the actual damage).
Btw, it's a good idea even for a new secondary skill And it's better than Mysticism, as you often spend more mana than required. With this skill you can save mana in every battle.
Arcane Affinity 
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Ghost
Undefeatable Hero
Therefore I am
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posted November 23, 2025 04:46 AM |
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Yes..
First Dragogeddon (Gold or Black dragons + Armageddon) strategy in Monk's Retreat (SoD scenario 3DO).. Because you realize easily.. Funny map.
Risky! The next matter explains to you..
A little experience.. I casted Protection from Fire, but an opponent casted Dispel, so I casted Armageddon, but an opponent also casted Armageddon, and then escaped out.. Another what? I met AI strong main hero with small troops, think about MP (in principle), an opponent doesn't take with large troops, so an opponent visits dwellings also joined neutral monsters.. You cast a Armageddon to beat the opponent.. A cheap strategy, so you get artifacts, what a value.. What I beat the AI.. But if you meet their Black Dragons, for example.. An opponent has 20-40 Primary Skills in 2-3 months (an average). You must to count your damage against Black Dragons.. If no enough, when an opponent can cast a Armageddon to you.. Risky! But I thought if Protection from Fire, and you attack against Black Dragons, and poor opponent casts a Dispel.. At least theory, because of many variations.. When how to know about a bluff or a Black orb or opponent tries Armageddon.. It depends on your whole troops.. The same matter Anti-Magic, when Inferno, only you take Archdevils and Efreets.. And you take dwellings, etc You meet an opponent, you cast a Anti-Magic to your Archdevils for Armageddon.. Harder game, thus two immune creatures and how to know about a bluff, etc but you protect your lvl 7 is important.. An example of player doesn't take a Fire, if Inferno, but takes a Fire, if Fortress.. Thus many variations.. Remember you (Phoenix4ever) said basic Armageddon is enough.. I tried, etc It seems good..
Other I can't remember now.. But useless Armageddon in WoG.. It depends on troops or skiful player also luckly AI..
Hmm summon elemental is also good, I add on if you know Resurrection, etc or you are ghost, but unbeatable hero, thus artifacts, etc and eliminated strong main hero..
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weilan
Known Hero
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posted November 24, 2025 09:24 AM |
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I have a friend with whom we play occasionally, both in hotseat and online, sometimes he chooses a build, either Dungeon or Inferno or finds creatures immune to Armageddon and just spams it to kill the enemy army.
I've seen it in action pretty often and it works, just seems like a boring build, because you just spam one button.
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phoenix4ever
Legendary Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
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posted November 24, 2025 10:36 AM |
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weilan said:
I've seen it in action pretty often and it works, just seems like a boring build, because you just spam one button.
Yeah I kinda agree with you, Fire Immunity also ruins positive fire spells and Bloodlust and Slayer specialists for example, which is annoying.
I also think original power of Armageddon was way too powerful, I halved it's power and now it seems pretty reasonable.
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