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Thread: HOMM4 is way too easy! [ This thread is 2 pages long: (1) 2 ]
ghoul31
ghoul31

Tavern Dweller
posted June 06, 2002 07:59 PM

HOMM4 is way too easy!

In heroes 2, it took months before i could beat it on the hardest level. In this game, I beat it on the hardest level every time. The AI is awful! In the older versions the computer player would attack your castle within weeks. in heroes 4 , months go by and he never attacks. Then when you attack his castle , his troops don't even come out after you. They just sit there so you can buff all day long, or cast poison spells on them.
     I'm very bored with this game because its so easy



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Jenova
Jenova


Famous Hero
posted June 07, 2002 11:54 PM

The patch supposedly improves their AI.
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Xenophanes
Xenophanes


Promising
Famous Hero
Chief Consul to Queen Mutare
posted June 08, 2002 12:08 AM

Your cries are nothing new...

AI, it has been unamiously agreed upon, does suck.
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god_boy
god_boy


Known Hero
posted June 08, 2002 03:35 AM

i've got the 1.3 patch and the AI still sucks. i've yet to be attacked even when they've got larger armies and i'm playing on the higher difficulties. Also, the AI explores really slowly. anybody know when the next patch is comming out?
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Xenophanes
Xenophanes


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Famous Hero
Chief Consul to Queen Mutare
posted June 08, 2002 11:06 AM

No idea. But yes, the AI is stupid. I put a Hero right next to an altar and a Staff of Death, both unguarded, and it wouldn't pick them up.
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RMS
RMS


Responsible
Legendary Hero
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posted June 08, 2002 11:09 AM

oh come now, have some patience. We all know that the Ai isn't very good. Wait for the multiplayer, and then after you realize that your opponents are still too easy, then you can say that.
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Xenophanes
Xenophanes


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Famous Hero
Chief Consul to Queen Mutare
posted June 08, 2002 11:14 AM

I should play hotseat agains someone...

too bad the people I play with only want to do allied.
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god_boy
god_boy


Known Hero
posted June 09, 2002 03:54 AM

how come the HOMM4 ai is so sh*t when the ai for h1,h2 and h3 were better. isn't there supposed to be an improvement with a sequal to a game. why did they change the ai behaviour anyway?

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Jenova
Jenova


Famous Hero
posted June 09, 2002 05:00 AM

There's a good reason for that.. because you can see each other's screens and stuff perhaps?

Where do you live? I'll come to your house and play you (haha multiplayer).
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Xenophanes
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Chief Consul to Queen Mutare
posted June 09, 2002 10:39 AM

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how come the HOMM4 ai is so sh*t when the ai for h1,h2 and h3 were better. isn't there supposed to be an improvement with a sequal to a game. why did they change the ai behaviour anyway?


My only guess would be that...remember how in some of the previews they said that they were changing some equations or values or something? What the AI would do instead of something else? This could have backfired on them...
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god_boy
god_boy


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posted June 12, 2002 06:15 AM

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There's a good reason for that.. because you can see each other's screens and stuff perhaps?

Where do you live? I'll come to your house and play you (haha multiplayer).


I can't see the ai's screen unless i had grandmaster stealth.

I live in Sydney, Australia. you're welcome to come over any time you're in the area. cheers.

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Jenova
Jenova


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posted June 13, 2002 01:56 AM

I meant other player's screens..
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maStERgENiE
maStERgENiE


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Genie taking the Smeg!!!
posted June 13, 2002 08:57 AM

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There's a good reason for that.. because you can see each other's screens and stuff perhaps?

Where do you live? I'll come to your house and play you (haha multiplayer).


I can't see the ai's screen unless i had grandmaster stealth.

I live in Sydney, Australia. you're welcome to come over any time you're in the area. cheers.


Maybe I'll come over then, I live just in Melbourne. Only a short 10 hours drive. Laugh!

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Nakolnasadi
Nakolnasadi


Hired Hero
and also a lord of cheaters!
posted June 14, 2002 09:13 AM

I think that the hard is middle!

I read all of this messages and thought: what can i say?
The heroes is not so difficult and no so easy, the creaures must be aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa bit(greater, must i pay for it a lot attention?) weaker. But it also to some creatures of your enemy!
But the ce(campaign editor)! It is awfull! Nwc must modife it before i will cast on theme mass eleminate!
So it is difficult to say is the Hom&m 4 difficult or easy!
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Sir_Elric
Sir_Elric


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Famous Hero
Having a bad hair day.
posted June 14, 2002 12:32 PM
Edited By: Sir_Elric on 15 Jun 2002

Quote:
Quote:
There's a good reason for that.. because you can see each other's screens and stuff perhaps?

Where do you live? I'll come to your house and play you (haha multiplayer).


I can't see the ai's screen unless i had grandmaster stealth.

I live in Sydney, Australia. you're welcome to come over any time you're in the area. cheers.


I'm in Perth I'll just nip over!






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maStERgENiE
maStERgENiE


Adventuring Hero
Genie taking the Smeg!!!
posted June 15, 2002 06:00 AM

Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
There's a good reason for that.. because you can see each other's screens and stuff perhaps?

Where do you live? I'll come to your house and play you (haha multiplayer).


I can't see the ai's screen unless i had grandmaster stealth.

I live in Sydney, Australia. you're welcome to come over any time you're in the area. cheers.


I'm in Perth I'll just nip over!


What more needs to be said?

Aussies rule!! Laugh!!

There are definitely more Aussie HOMM fans than I thought. If the TOH ever gets started for HOMM 4 we should have a few matches. I would like to see how good the rest of you are.
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Sir_Elric
Sir_Elric


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Famous Hero
Having a bad hair day.
posted June 15, 2002 08:24 PM

Good riddance to chaining!

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heroes4 is h3 for bad players...no chaining, every tosser can play that game, so yes its too easy, but also too boring




I'm sorry but are you telling me that you actually enjoyed chaining and found it exciting?

Chaining was the worst part of HOMM IMHO.
Sure it is an essential part of the game but most definately a pain in the butt!

Also chaining is not exactly true to life.
How can an army run from one hero to another and then run another day and then another?
When they finally arrived for battle half of them would be dead from exhaustion!

Anyway now there is caravans, so much easier and more conceivable.




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god_boy
god_boy


Known Hero
posted June 17, 2002 06:06 AM

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heroes4 is h3 for bad players...no chaining, every tosser can play that game, so yes its too easy, but also too boring




I'm sorry but are you telling me that you actually enjoyed chaining and found it exciting?

Chaining was the worst part of HOMM IMHO.
Sure it is an essential part of the game but most definately a pain in the butt!

Also chaining is not exactly true to life.
How can an army run from one hero to another and then run another day and then another?
When they finally arrived for battle half of them would be dead from exhaustion!

Anyway now there is caravans, so much easier and more conceivable.

Yup, agree with you totally. Chaining was a pain in the arse for short casual games. unrealistic too. and c'mon, chaining must be not the only highlight in HOMM3.

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Scorpius
Scorpius


Hired Hero
posted June 18, 2002 10:53 AM

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oh come now, have some patience. We all know that the Ai isn't very good. Wait for the multiplayer, and then after you realize that your opponents are still too easy, then you can say that.


That doesnt make any sence at all. There should be a decent single player mode, and that can only be achieved by having a good AI.
And yes, this makes the campaigns to be far too easy, on higher levels the greatest danger is from the neutral creatures, that about says it all! None of the campaigns have produced a decent computer opponent so far. Rather a laugh to beat an immortal king that easily on impossible level...

i agree with those who are glad that 'hero-chaining' is no longer in the game.

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Sir_Elric
Sir_Elric


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Famous Hero
Having a bad hair day.
posted June 18, 2002 11:08 PM

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So it sounds to me, i shouldnt waste my money on this game, i should stick to HOMM2? well should i? and does anybody wanna play me at it?


HOMM2!

At least get HOMM3.

As for HOMM4 I think it's worth the money if Multi and Random Map Generator are patches, and not expansion packs that we are expected to pay for, if that's the case, for those of us who have already bought the game.

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