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Thread: Have somebody any idea what to do with minotaurs and their blocks? [ This thread is 2 pages long: (1) 2 ]
Nakolnasadi
Nakolnasadi


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posted June 14, 2002 02:46 PM

Have somebody any idea what to do with minotaurs and their blocks?

10 faeries attacked 3 minotaures minotaurs blocked the attack!
I think we must "terror" NWC before they did les procent of minotaur's block or missions versus asylum and good partner will destroy all your possibilities to win and will crash your nerves!
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Jenova
Jenova


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posted June 15, 2002 02:55 AM

Attack them again and again.. They can't block every shot. And I don't think they block magic (though I could be wrong) so try your fairy dragon's magic attacks instead.
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Nakolnasadi
Nakolnasadi


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posted June 15, 2002 04:02 AM

To Jenova.

Sorry jenova, you know minotaurs have a good attack quality my creatures are died, but magic............................................................................... it is a good idea thanks!
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god_boy
god_boy


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posted June 17, 2002 07:02 AM

the minotaurs blocking ability depends on the strenght of the attacking stack compared the the minotaur stack. So if your playing stronghold, where there is no magic, hit the stack with your most powerful one first to weaken it up and then hit it with your other stacks. I like to use harpies against them because block or not, there is no retaliation.
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Lith-Maethor
Lith-Maethor


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posted June 17, 2002 07:17 AM
Edited By: Lith-Maethor on 17 Jun 2002

hit them with magic...

and they fall as easily as peasants to a Blackie...

EFIT: dunno about you god_boy, but my Druid (usually Archmage) and Faeries have lots of fun with minotaurs
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god_boy
god_boy


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posted June 17, 2002 07:21 AM

good idea...
... but kinda hard if you're playing preserve, or haven, or stronghold.

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Xenophanes
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posted June 17, 2002 10:41 AM

Everyone here's right. You have to hit the Minotaurs with magic. Also, I would suggest fighting fire with fire in this instance (although it goes against the dogma of the FAQ). Play as Asylum, and get Medusas. That way, the Medusas can shoot the minotaurs, and for me, regardless of whether they block or not, the stone gaze always kills off enough to make me happy
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posted April 05, 2004 11:14 AM

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the minotaurs blocking ability depends on the strenght of the attacking stack compared the the minotaur stack. So if your playing stronghold, where there is no magic, hit the stack with your most powerful one first to weaken it up and then hit it with your other stacks. I like to use harpies against them because block or not, there is no retaliation.



i can't believe noone commented on this misleading post
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Lich_King
Lich_King


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posted April 05, 2004 12:55 PM

But it was made ~1,5 years ago...
Anyway Minotaur block has a 25 % of working
in Equilibris it has 33 %.
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Asmodean
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posted April 06, 2004 10:42 PM

Yeah but somehow that 25% seems to be the 25% tha I attack the computer's stack.
The 75% where it hits seems to be when someone attacks MY minotaurs - when I have minotaurs. Medusas are way better.
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Wizard
Wizard


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posted April 07, 2004 03:24 AM

With Preserve you can have water elementals and they have cool offensive magic. The heaven though may have a problem with the minotaurs. If I play heaven I would target them last ...
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drlucifer
drlucifer


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posted April 07, 2004 08:06 PM

Best way to deal with Minotaurs?  Magic.. in two ways.
The Minos can't block spells, and their defense don't work against speels either, so yeah damage spells are good.  Also good is speels like Slow, Teleport or even Displacement so they don't all get to you at the same time.
Just keep attacking them.  They can't live forever and all your 4th level creatures need is one good hit.
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Shirastro
Shirastro


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posted April 07, 2004 08:33 PM

As he said. I ususally dont care too much about them, just ceep attacking and attacking them, they will eventually die.
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Gurnard
Gurnard

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posted May 07, 2004 10:19 AM

Non-magic anti-minotaur tactics.
Haven's good against minotaurs, just for the fact always having multiple shooting stacks. They block your monks? Fine, let the hero w/bow deal with them. They block the hero? Fine, let the crossbowmen deal with them. Unless you're under serious pressure in the combat, you can kill a fair number of minotaurs each round.
Lith-Maethor and drlucifer also bring up a good point. A high damage level 4 creature will kill the stack easily. You can afford to have one attack blocked if the next incoming blow is a guaranteed coup de gras.
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Vince
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posted May 24, 2004 05:43 PM

Obviously magic damage is the way to go since Minotaurs can't block spells.

However, there seems to be another way if melee attacks have to be used.  If you know that a Minotaur stack has a retaliation pending, then attack it with one of your stacks that doesn't have a first strike ability or no retaliation ability.  Why you ask?  If the minotaur has a retaliation pending, then when you attack it, it will attack you.  This means your attack will get through because the minotaur can't block and attack at the same time.  If the minotaur can't retaliate, then it will get a chance to block your attack.

Hope I explained that well enough.


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drlucifer
drlucifer


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posted May 24, 2004 05:51 PM

Are you sure about that?  I think there were a couple of times that I attacked them in melee combat and they blocked my attack.
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Asmodean
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posted May 24, 2004 06:02 PM

They block first, then retaliate.
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csarmi
csarmi


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posted June 15, 2004 12:36 PM

Quote:
Obviously magic damage is the way to go since Minotaurs can't block spells.

However, there seems to be another way if melee attacks have to be used.  If you know that a Minotaur stack has a retaliation pending, then attack it with one of your stacks that doesn't have a first strike ability or no retaliation ability.  Why you ask?  If the minotaur has a retaliation pending, then when you attack it, it will attack you.  This means your attack will get through because the minotaur can't block and attack at the same time.  If the minotaur can't retaliate, then it will get a chance to block your attack.

Hope I explained that well enough.




it is the most stupid thing I have ever heard

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Lich_King
Lich_King


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posted June 15, 2004 12:42 PM

LOL... noobs

Of course Vince is right, since when minotaur is attacking you and you are retalating at the same time, he can't do 2 actions at the same time. That means block and attack.
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csarmi
csarmi


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posted June 15, 2004 03:38 PM

lol

not that he has to :-)

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