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Heroes Community > Heroes 4 - Lands of Axeoth > Thread: The most useless spells
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Medusa
Medusa


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Yeah, right
posted August 31, 2002 07:06 PM
Edited By: Lich_King on 21 Jun 2003

The most useless spells

Quicksand and sparks!!! (for me)

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kujo
kujo


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who loves to script.
posted August 31, 2002 07:21 PM

quicksand is the sweetest spell for castle sieging
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Lich_King
Lich_King


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posted August 31, 2002 07:33 PM

I think, "Sparks" are useless ! I never use "Pain mirror" either.
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Lith-Maethor
Lith-Maethor


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posted August 31, 2002 07:36 PM

I guess sparks...

never managed to cast that spell... quicksand can be very usefull if you know how to use it... and get lucky with the battlefield...
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Lich_King
Lich_King


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posted August 31, 2002 07:55 PM

Oh I had remembered !

"Raise Skeletons" are also useless, when you get "Raise ghosts.

By the way, Are "First strike" and "Snake strike" do the same ?
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japjer
japjer


Adventuring Hero
posted August 31, 2002 08:48 PM

yes it's the same spell, exactly the same spell.

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Klauts
Klauts


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posted August 31, 2002 09:07 PM

The most useless spell is a curse after the target has been blessed,or vice-versa(it has no efect but u can still cast it)

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HALT
HALT


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posted August 31, 2002 09:25 PM

Quote:
Oh I had remembered !

"Raise Skeletons" are also useless, when you get "Raise ghosts.

By the way, Are "First strike" and "Snake strike" do the same ?


Raise Skeletons is perfect maneuver. You cast spell and attack with skeletons a strong stack of creatures. Skeletons get killed but your strong creature can attack the same stack and will not get retaliation.
Try cats strike (attack) whatever the right name. Did you aver see what damage can 3.5K orcs can do with this spell on them? 35 angels get wiped out. BTW 20 getting down after the first strike.

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kujo
kujo


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posted August 31, 2002 10:25 PM

most useless spell award goes to....defender!!
u gotta defend before using it, and the only units who defend are pathetic lvl 1's
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Lich_King
Lich_King


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posted September 01, 2002 12:53 AM

I allways confused with "Martyr"

It's confusing to cast "Martyr":
When you whant to cast this spell it is said: "Cast Martyr on friendly creature", then I ALLWAYS cast on wrong creature or hero.

It is good, that you can cancel casting
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Medusa
Medusa


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Yeah, right
posted September 01, 2002 10:34 AM

How to cast it?

I don't get the quicksand idea. how to mark a place where you want to cast it? how many feet? i would like quicksand, but i'm confused about it. would someone tell me?
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Wub
Wub


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posted September 01, 2002 01:09 PM
Edited By: Wub on 1 Sep 2002

casting quicksand

I agree that casting quicksand is tricky. But you may want to try this:

-Select the quicksand spell from your spellbook
-Click with your cursor (that now looks like a spellbook)  on the place where you want the quicksand to cast. A wheelbarrow will appear now.
-Drag the wheelbarrow carefully from your starting place to where you want the quicksand to end. When you have used up 24(?) feet of quicksand, the wheelbarrow will automatically disappear and the spell is cast.
-When it happens that you keep dragging, but the spell isn't cast, you probably dragged your cursor over a place where a patch of quicksand cannot be placed. And if there was a place, it may not have been big enough. In these cases, don't keep dragging but cancel your spell and select it again from your spellbook. Usually that gives a better result than waiting for the computer to cast it.

With this tips and some practice, you should be able to cast quicksand with fairly good accuracy. One last tip though: if you have summon water elemental, cast that one instead and let the water elemental cast quicksand. The spell is extremely useful and, if well used, reduces the movement of even the fastest grunts to 1. Succes!  
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Medusa
Medusa


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Yeah, right
posted September 01, 2002 02:43 PM

Thanks, Wub!

Thanks, now it will be a lot easier. (I agree with water elemental idea
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Shadow_Elf
Shadow_Elf


Wandering Thief
posted September 01, 2002 04:16 PM

how do u cast sparks? i mean it never lets me that wuld definitel qualify it
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Wub
Wub


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posted September 01, 2002 04:30 PM
Edited By: Wub on 1 Sep 2002

Quote:

how do u cast sparks? i mean it never lets me that wuld definitel qualify it



Sparks is like a magical melee attack that cannot be retaliated against. It doesn't do much damage (2/3 of magic arrow) but it works with a hit and run strategy. Let your hero wait, enemy stack moves within the movement radius of the hero, hero cast sparks on enemy stack doing a magic attack and in the next round immediately runs back. After that, the cycle starts over from the beginning.

When should sparks be used instead of magic arrow? Beats me...


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japjer
japjer


Adventuring Hero
posted September 01, 2002 04:32 PM

how to cast sparks

you cast the spell (select it) and then attack the unit you want to attack. the advantages are that you won't get a retaliation and that it has the same effect as the breath attack (meaning you can hit several units when formed in a line), you do however have to walk to melee range, making the caster vulnerable to attacks. a melee fighter could take the blow, but then his normal melee attacks are stronger. a sorcerer could just as well cast a different spell which is stronger and safer.

the only circumstance in which i may use it, is early in the game when i already cast bloodlust and don't have magic arrow.

soooo, pretty useless...

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Lich_King
Lich_King


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posted September 01, 2002 10:57 PM

I think all "MIGHT" spells are usless !
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Shadow_Elf
Shadow_Elf


Wandering Thief
posted September 02, 2002 12:48 AM

yeah and all might magiciacians (wizards or something wateva u cal em) are frods
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kujo
kujo


Known Hero
who loves to script.
posted September 02, 2002 03:01 AM

might spells rock. summon barbarian is my personal favourite
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privatehudson
privatehudson


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posted September 02, 2002 03:10 AM

hmmmmmmmm don't remember that one...............
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